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  1. #16
    KevinX
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    Re: Is it better to ring 112 rather than 999?

    For what it's worth, 112 may be the best option.

    ONLY for the fact that 112 works in Europe, where as 999 is solely a UK
    connect number.

    K

    "Jon" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > [email protected] declared for all the world to hear...
    > > The reasons given were...
    > > - You're call will be connected more quickly

    >
    > Not true.
    >
    > > - They will know your location

    >
    > Also not true.
    >
    > > - You are less likely to be disconnected

    >
    > Also not true.
    > --
    > Regards
    > Jon






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  2. #17

    Re: Is it better to ring 112 rather than 999?

    [email protected] wrote:

    > But my wife has just had a "personal security" lecture at work where
    > the tutor told them that if ringing from a mobile you should always
    > dial 112 and not 999 for the emergency service.


    Your wife's employer should consider asking for a refund from the
    lecturing organisation. If this is the quality of advice she would
    have been better off at work earning them revenue, rather than being
    paid to go to a circus and listen to the clowns!

    A quick search of the ofcom web site shows that they habitually refer
    to "the 999/112 emergency service" in the single tense.

    http://www.ofcom.org.uk/media/news/2004/01/nr1_20040115 is interesting.
    It descibes (badly) how location is derived for 999 calls, and states
    (casually) that 112 is equivalent.

    I could not find anything authoratative on the ofcom web site, mainly
    because of the scatter-gun results from the search utility, but I did
    find this about an initiative I had forgotten:
    http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consult/condocs/snen/snen.pdf




  3. #18
    Ivor Jones
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    Re: Is it better to ring 112 rather than 999?



    "KevinX" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > For what it's worth, 112 may be the best option.
    >
    > ONLY for the fact that 112 works in Europe, where as 999
    > is solely a UK connect number.


    As we're in the UK and this is a UK group, I'd hazard a guess that the OP
    wasn't talking about calling while in Belgium or wherever.

    Ivor

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  4. #19

    Re: Is it better to ring 112 rather than 999?

    On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 15:01:15 -0000, "Martin Underwood" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >112 to be dialled even with the
    >keyboard locked, whereas it doesn't allow 999 to be dialled


    You can test is safely. Simply press 1 1 2 and don't press Send.
    Compare that with pressing 4 5 6 and not pressing Send, and with
    pressing 9 9 9 and not pressing Send.

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  5. #20

    Re: Is it better to ring 112 rather than 999?

    Thanks for all the replies to my post.
    I think you've all confirmed what I thought. It's a load of bunk!

    To expand on some of the questions it generated...

    When I asked my wife what the guy's qualifications were, she replied
    "well he was in the SAS". I think that says it all! I don't think
    'ex-SAS' is a telecoms qualification!

    I was talking about a UK mobile being used in the UK.

    I know from personal experience they do currently know your rough
    location by what cell you are in and the operator who answers your call
    has it flash on their screen and which county's emergency service they
    must connect your call to.
    I know as I live near a county boundary and once trying to call the
    police they insisted on connecting me to the other county's police, who
    wouldn't take it because I was outside their county. I had to ring
    again and the beligerant BT operator still would NOT connect me to the
    correct force, only the one her screen told her to. In the end I was
    connected to the wrong force who then rang the correct force and
    relayed my message on!!!
    I complained next day to BT who explained to me how the system worked
    (or not).

    There is a way that in a major emergency normal users can be cut off to
    ensure that only emergency services phones work. All GSM SIMs have some
    priority number, general retail ones being at the bottom, but emergency
    service personnel can apply to have their priority lifted. If an
    emergency occurs, the emergency services can request that the mobile
    operators up the priority to say '10'. When this happens, anyone with
    less than '10' (Joe Public) will get a 'cell busy' tone, but those with
    >10 will still work.


    Bob Coates




  6. #21
    Ivor Jones
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    Re: Is it better to ring 112 rather than 999?



    <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > On Sun, 5 Feb 2006 15:01:15 -0000, "Martin Underwood"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > 112 to be dialled even with the
    > > keyboard locked, whereas it doesn't allow 999 to be
    > > dialled

    >
    > You can test is safely. Simply press 1 1 2 and don't
    > press Send. Compare that with pressing 4 5 6 and not
    > pressing Send, and with pressing 9 9 9 and not pressing
    > Send.


    My Nokia 6310i allows 999, 112 and the US 911 to be entered with the
    keypad locked.

    Which has resulted in at least one false call to my knowledge, with the
    phone being jostled in my pocket.


    Ivor





  7. #22
    Joe
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    Re: Is it better to ring 112 rather than 999?

    911 will also put you through to emergency services, by accident I found
    this out.





  8. #23
    S Viemeister
    Guest

    Re: Is it better to ring 112 rather than 999?

    Joe wrote:
    >
    > 911 will also put you through to emergency services, by accident I found
    > this out.


    In the UK? I'm surprised.



  9. #24
    Jon
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    Re: Is it better to ring 112 rather than 999?

    [email protected]lid declared for all the world to hear...
    > Don't be so quick to dismiss it - when a cell is running at capacity,
    > priority is given to emergency calls


    When the call cannot be shifted to another nearby cell.
    --
    Regards
    Jon



  10. #25

    Re: Is it better to ring 112 rather than 999?


    S Viemeister wrote:
    > Joe wrote:
    > >
    > > 911 will also put you through to emergency services, by accident I found
    > > this out.

    >
    > In the UK? I'm surprised.


    Yes that's correct.
    This was done because of these insular Americans who come over here and
    expect everything to be the same as at home, and couldn't understand
    why 911 didn't work!
    So 911 is accepted here now as an emergency call number, alongside 112
    and 999. Thankfully Aussies aren't as dumb, or we'd need 000 adding as
    well!

    Bob Coates




  11. #26
    bob_builder
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    Re: Is it better to ring 112 rather than 999?

    [email protected] wrote:
    > S Viemeister wrote:
    > > Joe wrote:
    > > >
    > > > 911 will also put you through to emergency services, by accident I found
    > > > this out.

    > >
    > > In the UK? I'm surprised.

    >
    > Yes that's correct.
    > This was done because of these insular Americans who come over here and
    > expect everything to be the same as at home, and couldn't understand
    > why 911 didn't work!
    > So 911 is accepted here now as an emergency call number, alongside 112
    > and 999. Thankfully Aussies aren't as dumb, or we'd need 000 adding as
    > well!


    18 also works!




  12. #27
    Gaz
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    Re: Is it better to ring 112 rather than 999?

    sol_sun_ftm wrote:
    > Surely you get a quicker reply if you phone from a number registered
    > with the local Freemasons lodge


    Thats old school, your local Labour Party constituency offices are now the
    places career minded senior police offices respond to.

    Gaz





  13. #28

    Re: Is it better to ring 112 rather than 999?

    On 5 Feb 2006 14:08:55 -0800, [email protected] wrote:

    >It descibes (badly) how location is derived for 999 calls, and states
    >(casually) that 112 is equivalent.


    One day a few years ago, I made a fairly long train journey sitting
    next to a man with a whole load of papers about how the emergency
    calls system works. It was really very interesting, reading it out of
    the corner of my eye.

    Don't think I remember it all now, but in any even, it was marked not
    just "Confidential" but "Secret". Why he was sitting on a train with
    it visible to people like me is a good question.

    However, this was about a new system that was being introduced, so it
    may not have actually happened.

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