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  1. #1
    John M Lauck
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    I've been developing WML pages for almost a year now and recently I
    found that some of my pages, while they validate perfectly at
    http://www.validome.org/validate against their respective WML DTDs, do
    not show up in all browsers. Specifically, Blackberry, Motorola and
    some Samsung phone browsers are causing the most problems. Both are
    very new and shouldn't have a problem reading a WML 1.1 xml doc. Is
    there anyone out there that has had a similar experience?

    FYI, I'm developing in a LAMP architecture for all of the WML, but most
    files are just pure text/wml that results in Internal Errror or some
    variation of Page Cannot be Displayed.




    See More: WAP/WML Problems on Mobile Phones




  2. #2
    John M Lauck
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    Re: WAP/WML Problems on Mobile Phones

    That might have just as good of a success rate. Maybe I'm looking in
    the wrong place by searching for WML and WAP support...?




  3. #3
    John M Lauck
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    Re: WAP/WML Problems on Mobile Phones

    >I've seen many websites simply return stripped down HTML in response to mobile phone User-Agent values. BBC does.

    I just checked the BBC mobile site
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/mobile/index.wml? and it definitely returns WML
    code:

    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
    <!DOCTYPE wml PUBLIC "-//WAPFORUM//DTD WML 1.1//EN"
    "http://www.wapforum.org/DTD/wml_1.1.xml">
    <wml>
    <head>
    <meta http-equiv="Cache-Control" content="max-age=0" forua="true"/>
    </head>
    <template>
    <do type="prev" name="back" label="Back">
    <prev/>
    </do>
    </template>
    <card title="bbc.co.uk/mobile">
    <p align="center"><img src="/mobile/brnd-bbc_2.gif" alt=""/></p>
    <p><a href="ents/apprentice/index.wml?">The Apprentice</a><br/><a
    href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/mobile/bbc_news/index.wml?">BBC
    News</a><br/><a
    href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/mobile/bbc_sport/index.wml?">BBC
    Sport</a><br/><a href="cbbc/index.wml?">CBBC</a><br/><a
    href="highlights/index.wml?">Highlights</a><br/><a
    href="ents/index.wml?">Entertainment</a><br/><a
    href="livelearn/index.wml?">Live + Learn</a><br/><a
    href="bitesize/index.wml?">Bitesize</a><br/><a
    href="lottery/index.wml?">Lottery</a><br/><a
    href="traffic/index.wml?">Traffic</a><br/><a
    href="../weather/wap/index.wml?">Weather</a><br/><br/><img alt="BBC"
    src="bbc.wbmp"/><br/>
    -<br/><br/><a href="mydevice.wml?">My Device</a><br/><a
    href="faq.wml?">FAQ</a><br/><a href="feedback/index.wml?">Contact
    Us</a><br/><a href="termsofuse/index.wml?">Terms of Use</a><br/><a
    href="privacy/index.wml?">Privacy Policy</a><br/>BBC © 2006<br/></p>
    <p id="nav">
    </p>
    </card>
    </wml>

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    My understanding is that some web sites that do not handle mobile
    User-Agents (hence they don't redirect or auto generate specific mobile
    content) are just filtered through the wireless carriers WAP server
    into some format of either WML or most likely stripped down HTML.
    Either way I'm very curious about why some browsers support some WML
    code and others don't.




  4. #4
    Aaron Whiffin
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    Re: WAP/WML Problems on Mobile Phones


    > Is WML still going? I thought mobile storage, power and bandwidth
    > increases had rendered it pointless. Certainly I've seen many websites
    > simply return stripped down HTML in response to mobile phone
    > User-Agent values. BBC does.


    Not a lot, but still does exist. I'm a web designer and still make WAP sites
    for clents, occasionally. Made one last year.

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  5. #5
    John M Lauck
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    Re: WAP/WML Problems on Mobile Phones

    Aaron, do you experience problems with different phone browsers and
    wireless carrier's WAP servers?

    Have you used XHTML rather than WML in any situations?




  6. #6
    Aaron Whiffin
    Guest

    Re: WAP/WML Problems on Mobile Phones


    > Aaron, do you experience problems with different phone browsers and
    > wireless carrier's WAP servers?
    >
    > Have you used XHTML rather than WML in any situations?


    No, we use very simple and standard WML so that it works on all handsets.
    Usually test on Nokias, SEs, a few online browsers (such as Wapsilon) and
    occasionally obscure phones where possible. We see no point in using WML
    unless it is going to work on all phones.

    We have never used WML, nor linked to any back end (although we have
    considered it several times)

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