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  1. #1
    me
    Guest
    Can anyone confirm when this is going to start?
    Also, I am presuming the use of Skype is disallowed ... but does this also
    apply to the 'Pro' option which allows a laptop connection?
    Thanks!





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  2. #2
    Stephen Henson
    Guest

    Re: The new T-Mobile 'unlimited' web access offer

    In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
    says...
    > Can anyone confirm when this is going to start?
    > Also, I am presuming the use of Skype is disallowed ... but does this also
    > apply to the 'Pro' option which allows a laptop connection?
    >
    >


    April 1st officially apparently...

    The consumer version has already started because it was accidentally
    added to the "My T-mobile" options and some people have already added
    it.

    I've been told that the "Pro" version has no restrictions other than a
    2GB fair use policy. However although several people have supported
    (eventually) the consumer details I've only heard about the "Pro"
    version from one person.

    Steve.



  3. #3
    Andrew Woodvine
    Guest

    Re: The new T-Mobile 'unlimited' web access offer

    Stephen Henson wrote:
    > In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
    > says...
    > > Can anyone confirm when this is going to start?
    > > Also, I am presuming the use of Skype is disallowed ... but does this also
    > > apply to the 'Pro' option which allows a laptop connection?
    > >
    > >

    >
    > April 1st officially apparently...
    >
    > The consumer version has already started because it was accidentally
    > added to the "My T-mobile" options and some people have already added
    > it.


    What's the difference between the consumer and pro versions?

    Does anyone know if unlimited web access can be applied to the SIM only
    tariff?

    Andrew Woodvine




  4. #4
    Stephen Henson
    Guest

    Re: The new T-Mobile 'unlimited' web access offer

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...
    >
    > What's the difference between the consumer and pro versions?
    >


    Again I've been told this...

    Consumer version is £7.50 a month including VAT. Has restrictions
    including no VOIP, P2P, no streaming and no modem access (laptops). It
    does not have a usage restriction as such but the other restrictions
    will limit the amount it can be used.

    The Pro version is £8.50 a month not including VAT. Has no restrictions
    other than a maximum usage of 2GB a month.

    The wording about what happens when you break the restrictions isn't
    quite clear but I believe it means you get several initial warnings
    which if ignored are followed by speed throttling.

    > Does anyone know if unlimited web access can be applied to the SIM only
    > tariff?
    >


    I specifically asked about that (I've just joined the SIM only tariff
    myself) and I've been told yes it can. I can't check under "My T-
    mobile" for the package since I haven't got a PIN yet.

    Steve.



  5. #5
    Steve Henson
    Guest

    Re: The new T-Mobile 'unlimited' web access offer

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...
    > Stephen Henson wrote:
    > > In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
    > > says...
    > > > Can anyone confirm when this is going to start?
    > > > Also, I am presuming the use of Skype is disallowed ... but does this also
    > > > apply to the 'Pro' option which allows a laptop connection?
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > > April 1st officially apparently...
    > >
    > > The consumer version has already started because it was accidentally
    > > added to the "My T-mobile" options and some people have already added
    > > it.

    >
    > What's the difference between the consumer and pro versions?
    >
    > Does anyone know if unlimited web access can be applied to the SIM only
    > tariff?
    >


    Update... some info is now appearing on T-mobile site.

    There's no mention of it being an add on bundle and no mention of the
    "Pro" version at this stage. Some people have also reported that the
    option to add the bundle has disappeared from "my T-mobile". That is
    hopefully because it was added prematurely in the first place and it
    will appear again tomorrow.

    Steve.



  6. #6
    Steve Henson
    Guest

    Re: The new T-Mobile 'unlimited' web access offer

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected]lid says...
    >
    > Update... some info is now appearing on T-mobile site.
    >
    > There's no mention of it being an add on bundle and no mention of the
    > "Pro" version at this stage. Some people have also reported that the
    > option to add the bundle has disappeared from "my T-mobile". That is
    > hopefully because it was added prematurely in the first place and it
    > will appear again tomorrow.
    >


    Second update... the "pro" version wont apparently be available until
    17th April.

    Steve.



  7. #7
    Moonshine
    Guest

    Re: The new T-Mobile 'unlimited' web access offer

    On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:45:39 +0100, Steve Henson
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >In article <[email protected]>,
    >[email protected] says...
    >>
    >> Update... some info is now appearing on T-mobile site.
    >>
    >> There's no mention of it being an add on bundle and no mention of the
    >> "Pro" version at this stage. Some people have also reported that the
    >> option to add the bundle has disappeared from "my T-mobile". That is
    >> hopefully because it was added prematurely in the first place and it
    >> will appear again tomorrow.
    >>

    >
    >Second update... the "pro" version wont apparently be available until
    >17th April.
    >
    >Steve.


    I spoke to a T-Mobile agent this PM to get the new unlimited data
    option added/changed on my account. But was told even though the new
    Flex-T Web&Walk option is on the Web site for new customer account
    orders they won't be able to add on to existing accounts till Tomorrow
    the 1st.

    I'm hoping I will be able to have it added to my account...

    I'd been eligable for an upgrade for a few months, with no new phone
    available that particularly appealed. I was holding out for the Nokia
    6280, but then just a week ago when I found out it was only a S40
    phone decided to go with the N70 instead. Seemed silly to have 3g
    available and not use it. I went with the Flex-T 30 package with 25%
    discount and 30 free Video Calling minutes per month for the 18 month
    contract period.

    When the phone arrived I decided it was not for me - also I was
    planning on letting the wife or daughter have the phone - but was a
    bit scuppered because their u-fix contracts don't support Video
    Calling.

    I arrange to return the phone - but said I'd stick with the new
    contract as no doubt before long there would be a suitable new phone
    available.

    I then find out about the new unlimited data option, which I'd really
    like - With that I'd be tempted to keep the N70 (the returns envelope
    has only just arrived today).

    Obviously I don't want to loose the free video calling (I've been told
    I won't as it is on my account) and I don't want to loose the 25%
    discount.

    The agent has said she will call back Monday - keeping my fingers
    crossed.



  8. #8
    Alan J Robertson
    Guest

    Re: The new T-Mobile 'unlimited' web access offer

    Steve Henson wrote:
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected]lid says...
    >> Update... some info is now appearing on T-mobile site.
    >>
    >> There's no mention of it being an add on bundle and no mention of the
    >> "Pro" version at this stage. Some people have also reported that the
    >> option to add the bundle has disappeared from "my T-mobile". That is
    >> hopefully because it was added prematurely in the first place and it
    >> will appear again tomorrow.
    >>

    >
    > Second update... the "pro" version wont apparently be available until
    > 17th April.
    >
    > Steve.


    Thanks for that update, Steve. I could see the FlexT+W&W tariffs on
    their website today but couldn't see any mention of the pro - fingers
    crossed for the 17th! I certainly like the sound of 2Gb of 3G data at
    that price - seems pretty reasonable.

    Do you know if you need a special 3G-enabled SIM with T-Mobile or would
    the one bought through the SIM-only page in the Shop do the trick? (and
    just automatically switch to 3G mode when in a 3G phone)

    One thing I was wondering - with their consumer version how will they
    block laptop access? Do they just mean that only WAP sites will be
    available on it? (which will be a bit rubbish if so!) Because if
    normal HTTP port 80 is available for browsing then whats to stop a user
    using their phone as a Bluetooth modem (as many of us already do)?

    Cheers

    Alan



  9. #9
    mrbob
    Guest

    Re: The new T-Mobile 'unlimited' web access offer

    hi mine has started today 7.50, per momth unlimited if your found using it
    froma alaptop or p2p u will b restricted we will c
    "me" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > Can anyone confirm when this is going to start?
    > Also, I am presuming the use of Skype is disallowed ... but does this also
    > apply to the 'Pro' option which allows a laptop connection?
    > Thanks!
    >






  10. #10
    Steve Henson
    Guest

    Re: The new T-Mobile 'unlimited' web access offer

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...
    >
    > Do you know if you need a special 3G-enabled SIM with T-Mobile or would
    > the one bought through the SIM-only page in the Shop do the trick? (and
    > just automatically switch to 3G mode when in a 3G phone)
    >


    I don't have a 3G phone myself so I don't know for sure. The consensus
    in the forums is that any recent SIM whether it is a USIM or not will
    work with T-mobile and 3G.

    Anyone know what a T-mobile USIM looks like?

    > One thing I was wondering - with their consumer version how will they
    > block laptop access? Do they just mean that only WAP sites will be
    > available on it? (which will be a bit rubbish if so!) Because if
    > normal HTTP port 80 is available for browsing then whats to stop a user
    > using their phone as a Bluetooth modem (as many of us already do)?
    >


    No one is too sure if they can detect laptop access and the wording is
    confused enough to not make it clear if they even do. Even if they could
    detect laptop use various techniques such as running a proxy on the
    phone itself might get round that.

    I'd say the intention is to stop people going mad and transferring huge
    amounts of data. As someone in a forum said "don't take the piss".
    Presumably that wording was considered not really appropriate :-)

    We have the current rather confused stuff which I'd say (with the IANAL
    disclaimer) surely can't be legally enforceable. It basically says "you
    can't do any of this plus some other things too which we haven't decided
    on yet".

    Steve.



  11. #11
    Marc
    Guest

    Re: The new T-Mobile 'unlimited' web access offer

    How will they know if you're using a laptop? And does using the phone as
    a modem with a PDA break the rules? Some phones are PDAs anyway, but a
    laptop and a PDA both use the same methods of connecting so whats the
    difference- how will they know?



  12. #12
    Steve Henson
    Guest

    Re: The new T-Mobile 'unlimited' web access offer

    In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
    says...
    > How will they know if you're using a laptop? And does using the phone as
    > a modem with a PDA break the rules? Some phones are PDAs anyway, but a
    > laptop and a PDA both use the same methods of connecting so whats the
    > difference- how will they know?
    >


    I don't think they can tell. The rule (and some of the others) are
    largely there to stop people going berserk and downloading huge amounts
    of data.

    If in doubt wait for the "Pro" version which will apparenly appear on
    17th April and wont have the restriction.

    Steve.



  13. #13
    Marc
    Guest

    Re: The new T-Mobile 'unlimited' web access offer

    Steve Henson wrote:
    > I don't think they can tell. The rule (and some of the others) are
    > largely there to stop people going berserk and downloading huge amounts
    > of data.
    >
    > If in doubt wait for the "Pro" version which will apparenly appear on
    > 17th April and wont have the restriction.


    Am I right in thinking that the more people using GPRS in one cell, the
    slower it gets? If so, we might see a lowering of the quality of service.



  14. #14
    David Hearn
    Guest

    Re: The new T-Mobile 'unlimited' web access offer

    Steve Henson wrote:
    > In article <[email protected]>, [email protected]
    > says...
    >
    >>How will they know if you're using a laptop? And does using the phone as
    >>a modem with a PDA break the rules? Some phones are PDAs anyway, but a
    >>laptop and a PDA both use the same methods of connecting so whats the
    >>difference- how will they know?
    >>

    >
    >
    > I don't think they can tell. The rule (and some of the others) are
    > largely there to stop people going berserk and downloading huge amounts
    > of data.


    I believe the issue is not really to do with the *amount* of data, but
    how constant the transfers are. An intermittent connection (ie.
    download emails in a minute or two, read them at leisure, or download a
    webpage, read, download another...) allows the GPRS time slots to remain
    reasonably well contended. If you're streaming, or otherwise accessing
    resources which keep the GPRS connection fully utilised, then the
    contention ratio for the GPRS timeslots increases. One user doing this
    might not be a problem, but by applying a policy where these practices
    are in effect banned (not through a hard enforcement, but through
    monitoring and probabilities) they have some ability to enforce it.

    Using a laptop over GPRS is likely to result in higher GPRS
    usage/timeslots due to the ease of multiple applications requesting
    internet resources (multiple browser windows, email checking every
    minute or two, radio streaming, Windows Updates etc).

    As other people have pointed out - bandwidth is actually cheap - but
    timeslots and cell resources are limited. I doubt a high data usage,
    but at intermittent periods is a problem - but medium data usage for a
    long period is likely to be more of an issue to mobile networks.

    D



  15. #15
    Stefan
    Guest

    Re: The new T-Mobile 'unlimited' web access offer

    Any new info on this supposed 'Pro' version of web 'n' walk? I checked
    the t-mobile website but see no mention of it...

    Steve Henson wrote:
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected]lid says...
    > >
    > > Update... some info is now appearing on T-mobile site.
    > >
    > > There's no mention of it being an add on bundle and no mention of the
    > > "Pro" version at this stage. Some people have also reported that the
    > > option to add the bundle has disappeared from "my T-mobile". That is
    > > hopefully because it was added prematurely in the first place and it
    > > will appear again tomorrow.
    > >

    >
    > Second update... the "pro" version wont apparently be available until
    > 17th April.
    >
    > Steve.





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