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- 04-28-2006, 06:23 AM #1CampinGazzGuest
Got a 0044 global sim today, wanted to test it out before i leave for europe
in a couple of days, and the damn thing's got outgoing call barring
activated.
E-mailed 0044 about it, and i got a standard reply.... check this and that,
a bit like when you call sky tv to say the dish has just fallen off the side
of the house... 'ok, first i need you to remove the card, wipe the contacts,
replace it and see if that works' kind of thing.
check the phone is compatable.. it is, check the phones unlocked, duuuh,
check the sim card contacts are clean, try a different operator and so on,
if this dont work then we'll get onto the network your on and get them to
run diagnostics.
ferchrisake, i know what the problem is, the outgoing call barring is
activated, and i need the pass code from them to remove it, then i can make
calls, simple, the phone is not being allowed to try and make a call so it's
not an issue with the operator netowrk i'm on, it's the damn sim refusing to
allow calls.
Don't suppose anyone knows the 0044 call barring password? 4 digit number,
tried the sim code that came with the phone, it's not that, anyone else have
this problem??
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- 04-28-2006, 06:38 AM #2andyGuest
Re: 0044 global sim, calls barred
The SIM doesn't make outgoing calls; it uses callback, so you get a
screen message about call not allowed or similar, then Sending a
request, then it rings
Apologies if you know all this already. If that isn't the problem then
I don't know.
Also try calling CallKey CS at 01624 822500
- 04-28-2006, 06:43 AM #3Jonathan PearsonGuest
Re: 0044 global sim, calls barred
andy wrote:
> The SIM doesn't make outgoing calls; it uses callback, so you get a
> screen message about call not allowed or similar, then Sending a
> request, then it rings
In addition it only works with the handsets listed on their website?
Jon
- 04-28-2006, 07:09 AM #4andyGuest
Re: 0044 global sim, calls barred
Jonathan Pearson wrote:
>
> In addition it only works with the handsets listed on their website?
> Jon
True - it will still receive calls in other phones, so could be used
with a separate callback service or other forwarding
- 04-28-2006, 08:07 AM #5Alan SummerfieldGuest
Re: 0044 global sim, calls barred
Jonathan Pearson wrote:
> andy wrote:
>> The SIM doesn't make outgoing calls; it uses callback, so you get a
>> screen message about call not allowed or similar, then Sending a
>> request, then it rings
>
> In addition it only works with the handsets listed on their website?
> Jon
>
>
From their FAQ:
"17. Does my Nokia, Sony Ericsson, Motorola; Bosch etc. handset function
with your SIM card?
Yes, the SIM works in all current GSM handsets (SIM lock free). Some
older handsets require you to make calls using the menu. To make a call:
Select the menu option ("Call/Anrufen") from the Main or Extras Menu on
you handset and enter the number."
On my Mitsubishi Trium Astral the above method works fine, it even
accesses the phonebook. Initially it shows the message "Call failed" but
if you wait you get the return call. Maybe the OP should be using this
method.
Alan
- 04-28-2006, 08:37 AM #6CampinGazzGuest
Re: 0044 global sim, calls barred
"Alan Summerfield" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Jonathan Pearson wrote:
>> andy wrote:
>>> The SIM doesn't make outgoing calls; it uses callback, so you get a
>>> screen message about call not allowed or similar, then Sending a
>>> request, then it rings
>>
>> In addition it only works with the handsets listed on their website?
>> Jon
>
> From their FAQ:
>
> "17. Does my Nokia, Sony Ericsson, Motorola; Bosch etc. handset function
> with your SIM card?
> Yes, the SIM works in all current GSM handsets (SIM lock free). Some older
> handsets require you to make calls using the menu. To make a call: Select
> the menu option ("Call/Anrufen") from the Main or Extras Menu on you
> handset and enter the number."
>
> On my Mitsubishi Trium Astral the above method works fine, it even
> accesses the phonebook. Initially it shows the message "Call failed" but
> if you wait you get the return call. Maybe the OP should be using this
> method.
The phone is on their compatible list, but that's not the problem,
outgoing call barring is in place on the sim, i have assertianed this 20
times, it's deffinately that that's the problem, outgoing call baring is
active, and i need the code to cancel the outgoing call barring,
this they can't seem to get me,
Just wondering if anyone else had this problem and knows the networks call
barring code from having to use it before???
the phone will not dial out full stop, it dosent even attempt to dial out,
the second you press the green dial key for absolutely any number dialed you
get 'call not allowed'
I know all about the call back thing, no probs with that, but as outgoing
call barring is activated on the sim, i can never get that far,
- 04-28-2006, 10:36 AM #7Neil - UsenetGuest
Re: 0044 global sim, calls barred
"CampinGazz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Alan Summerfield" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Jonathan Pearson wrote:
>>> andy wrote:
>>>> The SIM doesn't make outgoing calls; it uses callback, so you get a
>>>> screen message about call not allowed or similar, then Sending a
>>>> request, then it rings
>>>
>>> In addition it only works with the handsets listed on their website?
>>> Jon
>>
>> From their FAQ:
>>
>> "17. Does my Nokia, Sony Ericsson, Motorola; Bosch etc. handset function
>> with your SIM card?
>> Yes, the SIM works in all current GSM handsets (SIM lock free). Some
>> older handsets require you to make calls using the menu. To make a call:
>> Select the menu option ("Call/Anrufen") from the Main or Extras Menu on
>> you handset and enter the number."
>>
>> On my Mitsubishi Trium Astral the above method works fine, it even
>> accesses the phonebook. Initially it shows the message "Call failed" but
>> if you wait you get the return call. Maybe the OP should be using this
>> method.
>
> The phone is on their compatible list, but that's not the problem,
>
> outgoing call barring is in place on the sim, i have assertianed this 20
> times, it's deffinately that that's the problem, outgoing call baring is
> active, and i need the code to cancel the outgoing call barring,
> this they can't seem to get me,
>
> Just wondering if anyone else had this problem and knows the networks call
> barring code from having to use it before???
>
> the phone will not dial out full stop, it dosent even attempt to dial out,
> the second you press the green dial key for absolutely any number dialed
> you get 'call not allowed'
>
> I know all about the call back thing, no probs with that, but as outgoing
> call barring is activated on the sim, i can never get that far,
>
you dont say what fone u have,
I have nokia 6600, when i swap sims, and try to make a call, as soon as
pressing the green, i did get the same message untill i figured it out.
check in security settings,
(tools, security, phone and sim, LOCK IF SIM CHANGED).
IT MAY BE on.
- 04-28-2006, 01:00 PM #8LobsterGuest
Re: 0044 global sim, calls barred
CampinGazz wrote:
> Got a 0044 global sim today, wanted to test it out before i leave for europe
> in a couple of days, and the damn thing's got outgoing call barring
> activated.
I've had similar problems with my Riiing (United Mobile) sim card;
although I've had it and used it for several months, when I tried it out
the oher day at home before leaving the UK I found it was barred.
However, tried it again later without doing anything and it was fine.
Also OK overseas.
Does your sim, like mine, log on to whichever UK network it likes? I
wonder whether some of them don't like it much and reject it? Dunno.
But try again later!
David
- 04-28-2006, 02:15 PM #9andyGuest
Re: 0044 global sim, calls barred
CampinGazz wrote:
> the phone will not dial out full stop, it dosent even attempt to dial out,
> the second you press the green dial key for absolutely any number dialed you
> get 'call not allowed'
I don't think you read what I said earlier ...
The SIM doesn't make outgoing calls; it uses callback, so you get a
screen message about call not allowed or similar, then Sending a
request, then it rings
or the instructions ...
Ignore any messages the phone may display during this process
The question is - are you cancelling the sending a request? - I managed
to do this a couple of times the other day
If not, then perhaps there is another bar - what do CallKey say about
it?
- 04-28-2006, 02:15 PM #10CampinGazzGuest
Re: 0044 global sim, calls barred
"Lobster" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> CampinGazz wrote:
>> Got a 0044 global sim today, wanted to test it out before i leave for
>> europe in a couple of days, and the damn thing's got outgoing call
>> barring activated.
>
> I've had similar problems with my Riiing (United Mobile) sim card;
> although I've had it and used it for several months, when I tried it out
> the oher day at home before leaving the UK I found it was barred. However,
> tried it again later without doing anything and it was fine. Also OK
> overseas.
>
> Does your sim, like mine, log on to whichever UK network it likes? I
> wonder whether some of them don't like it much and reject it? Dunno. But
> try again later!
Sorted it out at last... it's me damn phone, nokia 6820 series phones with
the latest firmware have problems it seems, using the string dialing method
works, so i got it working at last,
bloody annoying thing is i had a 6310i which i'd have had to use the string
dialing method with, so i got a 6820 series phone as that was one listed as
working,
- 04-28-2006, 04:02 PM #11Irma TrollGuest
Re: 0044 global sim, calls barred
CampinGazz wrote:
> "Lobster" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> CampinGazz wrote:
>>> Got a 0044 global sim today, wanted to test it out before i leave for
>>> europe in a couple of days, and the damn thing's got outgoing call
>>> barring activated.
>> I've had similar problems with my Riiing (United Mobile) sim card;
>> although I've had it and used it for several months, when I tried it out
>> the oher day at home before leaving the UK I found it was barred. However,
>> tried it again later without doing anything and it was fine. Also OK
>> overseas.
>>
>> Does your sim, like mine, log on to whichever UK network it likes? I
>> wonder whether some of them don't like it much and reject it? Dunno. But
>> try again later!
>
> Sorted it out at last... it's me damn phone, nokia 6820 series phones with
> the latest firmware have problems it seems, using the string dialing method
> works, so i got it working at last,
>
> bloody annoying thing is i had a 6310i which i'd have had to use the string
> dialing method with, so i got a 6820 series phone as that was one listed as
> working,
So it wasn't the SIM being "call-barred" that you swore until blue in
the face?
Irma
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- 04-29-2006, 06:38 AM #12SeanGuest
Re: 0044 global sim, calls barred
What happens with this SIM in a nokia 5210, 5140, or 3510i ?
I guess it just wont work?
- 04-29-2006, 07:59 AM #13CampinGazzGuest
Re: 0044 global sim, calls barred
"Irma Troll" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> CampinGazz wrote:
>> "Lobster" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> news:[email protected]...
>>> CampinGazz wrote:
>>>> Got a 0044 global sim today, wanted to test it out before i leave for
>>>> europe in a couple of days, and the damn thing's got outgoing call
>>>> barring activated.
>>> I've had similar problems with my Riiing (United Mobile) sim card;
>>> although I've had it and used it for several months, when I tried it out
>>> the oher day at home before leaving the UK I found it was barred.
>>> However, tried it again later without doing anything and it was fine.
>>> Also OK overseas.
>>>
>>> Does your sim, like mine, log on to whichever UK network it likes? I
>>> wonder whether some of them don't like it much and reject it? Dunno.
>>> But try again later!
>>
>> Sorted it out at last... it's me damn phone, nokia 6820 series phones
>> with the latest firmware have problems it seems, using the string dialing
>> method works, so i got it working at last,
>>
>> bloody annoying thing is i had a 6310i which i'd have had to use the
>> string dialing method with, so i got a 6820 series phone as that was one
>> listed as working,
>
> So it wasn't the SIM being "call-barred" that you swore until blue in the
> face?
Erm, yes it was, the sim was and still is outgoing call barred,
the problem was my phone which is on their list of being compatable with the
call back thing wasnt really,
if i'd got the outgoing call barring lifted, then the sim would have worked,
but incurred roaming charges,
the nokia 6820 series phones just don't like doing the message request
thing, it tells you the sim's blocked and can't call out, and that's it, it
wont go any further... asscertianed by holding the phone near a speaker to
hear when it's senging a signal, no signal sent when you try to dial
normaly.
- 04-29-2006, 07:10 PM #14andyGuest
Re: 0044 global sim, calls barred
Sean wrote:
> What happens with this SIM in a nokia 5210, 5140, or 3510i ?
>
> I guess it just wont work?
It receives calls fine in 3210 and 3510i, so other callback reaches,
but you get the call barring message, without the work around that
sends anyway. This differs a bit from other SIMs, as UM does work in a
3510i
Gamping Gazz said:
> if i'd got the outgoing call barring lifted, then the sim would have worked,
> but incurred roaming charges,
sorry to keep saying it, but that isn't the way it works - it doesn't
make outgoing calls, nor do most other global SIMs, so I don't know how
you can assume anything about roaming charges
- 05-04-2006, 03:18 AM #15Guest
Re: 0044 global sim, calls barred
Hi,
I have the same problem. I put it in a Nokia 6210 and it won't go. The
list of phones they recommend is very odd. I have a riiing card and
this is 100% reliable and hassle free I recommend it as by far the best
option as the UK card seems a lot of grief.
Richard
CampinGazz wrote:
> Got a 0044 global sim today, wanted to test it out before i leave for europe
> in a couple of days, and the damn thing's got outgoing call barring
> activated.
>
> E-mailed 0044 about it, and i got a standard reply.... check this and that,
> a bit like when you call sky tv to say the dish has just fallen off the side
> of the house... 'ok, first i need you to remove the card, wipe the contacts,
> replace it and see if that works' kind of thing.
>
> check the phone is compatable.. it is, check the phones unlocked, duuuh,
> check the sim card contacts are clean, try a different operator and so on,
> if this dont work then we'll get onto the network your on and get them to
> run diagnostics.
>
> ferchrisake, i know what the problem is, the outgoing call barring is
> activated, and i need the pass code from them to remove it, then i can make
> calls, simple, the phone is not being allowed to try and make a call so it's
> not an issue with the operator netowrk i'm on, it's the damn sim refusing to
> allow calls.
>
> Don't suppose anyone knows the 0044 call barring password? 4 digit number,
> tried the sim code that came with the phone, it's not that, anyone else have
> this problem??
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