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  1. #1
    T.J.
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    With the N92 being able to pick up and receive
    TV broadcasts, will it mean you have to have a
    TV license when you buy one?
    TIA.


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  2. #2
    David Hearn
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    Re: Nokia N92 TV license needed?

    T.J. wrote:
    > With the N92 being able to pick up and receive
    > TV broadcasts, will it mean you have to have a
    > TV license when you buy one?
    > TIA.


    Quite simply, if it receives TV programmes which are broadcast
    simultaneously live to TVs across the UK, then it needs a license. As
    it is powered by it's own batteries, then as long as you have one for
    your home address, you'll be covered. If you don't, then you'll need one.

    If it receives TV which has been time delayed (not sure the minimum
    time) or on demand then it won't need a license.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4708170.stm

    D



  3. #3
    Sts4Heffer
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    Re: Nokia N92 TV license needed?


    "T.J." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > With the N92 being able to pick up and receive
    > TV broadcasts, will it mean you have to have a
    > TV license when you buy one?
    > TIA.
    >
    >
    > --
    > T.J.
    > http://www.uksmallbusinessdirectory.co.uk
    >


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/foi/docs/financ...VLicencing.pdf

    page 10.........it appears you need a license unless

    1. You have a home license which then covers self powered TV
    receivers.....page 12
    1. You are 74/75 yrs old.

    I may be wrong but lets see what other say............

    If you go buy a set top box they take your address and tell you its to
    notify the authorities........but this could just be bull.

    dj





  4. #4
    David Hearn
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    Re: Nokia N92 TV license needed?

    Sts4Heffer wrote:
    > "T.J." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >> With the N92 being able to pick up and receive
    >> TV broadcasts, will it mean you have to have a
    >> TV license when you buy one?
    >> TIA.
    >>
    >>
    >> --
    >> T.J.
    >> http://www.uksmallbusinessdirectory.co.uk
    >>

    >
    > http://www.bbc.co.uk/foi/docs/financ...VLicencing.pdf
    >
    > page 10.........it appears you need a license unless
    >
    > 1. You have a home license which then covers self powered TV
    > receivers.....page 12
    > 1. You are 74/75 yrs old.
    >
    > I may be wrong but lets see what other say............
    >
    > If you go buy a set top box they take your address and tell you its to
    > notify the authorities........but this could just be bull.
    >
    > dj


    All retailers of TV receivers (ie. TVs, videos, set top boxes etc) are
    required to notify TV licensing of the purchaser's name and address.

    D



  5. #5
    Jon
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    Re: Nokia N92 TV license needed?

    [email protected]lid declared for all the world to hear...
    > With the N92 being able to pick up and receive
    > TV broadcasts, will it mean you have to have a
    > TV license when you buy one?


    Only if it's receiving a TV broadcast using a tuner, if it's streamed
    across the internet then no licence is necessary.
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    Regards
    Jon



  6. #6
    Mike
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    Re: Nokia N92 TV license needed?

    On Sun, 21 May 2006 13:00:12 +0100, David Hearn
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >All retailers of TV receivers (ie. TVs, videos, set top boxes etc) are
    >required to notify TV licensing of the purchaser's name and address.


    But the retailers aren't required to confirm that the purchaser's
    address is correct. So feel free to give them a false address,
    preferably one that doesn't exist.

    As an aside, this is really a quite absurd law because purchasing a
    television doesn't necessarily imply that it will be used at the
    address of the purchaser. As someone who chooses not to have a
    television at home, if I buy one as a gift for someone else, giving my
    own address is an invitation for TVL to harrass me even more than they
    normally do.

    Mike.

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  7. #7
    Alan J. Flavell
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    Re: Nokia N92 TV license needed?

    On Sun, 21 May 2006, Mike wrote:

    > But the retailers aren't required to confirm that the purchaser's
    > address is correct. So feel free to give them a false address,
    > preferably one that doesn't exist.


    Unrelated to TVs, but some shops record customer's address by
    reference to a postcode database. Give them a non-existent address
    (not that I actually tried), and their system would reject it.




  8. #8
    Simon Dean
    Guest

    Re: Nokia N92 TV license needed?

    T.J. wrote:
    > With the N92 being able to pick up and receive
    > TV broadcasts, will it mean you have to have a
    > TV license when you buy one?
    > TIA.
    >
    >


    Have you found an N92 then? Where?



  9. #9
    Andrew Woodvine
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    Re: Nokia N92 TV license needed?

    Jon wrote:
    > [email protected]lid declared for all the world to hear...
    > > With the N92 being able to pick up and receive
    > > TV broadcasts, will it mean you have to have a
    > > TV license when you buy one?

    >
    > Only if it's receiving a TV broadcast using a tuner, if it's streamed
    > across the internet then no licence is necessary.


    The TV Licencing Authority seem to think differently, see:
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/10...eded_to_watch/

    Andrew Woodvine




  10. #10
    Ivor Jones
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    Re: Nokia N92 TV license needed?



    "T.J." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > With the N92 being able to pick up and receive
    > TV broadcasts, will it mean you have to have a
    > TV license when you buy one?
    > TIA.


    No, they don't have TV licenses in America.

    In the UK however, you will need a TV Licence.

    Ivor





  11. #11
    Jon
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    Re: Nokia N92 TV license needed?

    [email protected] declared for all the world to hear...
    > Jon wrote:
    > > [email protected]lid declared for all the world to hear...
    > >> With the N92 being able to pick up and receive
    > >> TV broadcasts, will it mean you have to have a
    > >> TV license when you buy one?

    > >
    > > Only if it's receiving a TV broadcast using a tuner, if it's streamed
    > > across the internet then no licence is necessary.

    >
    > The requirement is to do with whether the programme being watched is
    > also being broadcasted to TVs, not the medium through which it is
    > received. IP based TV, Satellite, terrestrial, cable etc, the medium is
    > not important.
    >
    > Again, see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4708170.stm and see
    > what TV Licensing have to say about it (and watching TV on PCs etc).


    I see. My info is out of date then. WOuldn't be the first time!
    --
    Regards
    Jon



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    Re: Nokia N92 TV license needed?

    On 21 May 2006 06:40:15 -0700, "Andrew Woodvine" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >> Only if it's receiving a TV broadcast using a tuner, if it's streamed
    >> across the internet then no licence is necessary.

    >
    >The TV Licencing Authority seem to think differently, see:
    >http://www.theregister.co.uk/2000/10...eded_to_watch/


    They are telling lies. But that's fairly normal for them.

    I spent some time tracing through the complex series of regulations
    that relate to watching TV programmes across the web, and it became
    clear that it all hinged on the definition of "broadcast". This
    definition is quite clearly set out in the regulations, though it is
    not easy to find!

    Basically, if you watch a TV programme streamed from a web page - even
    if it is a "live" TV programme, you don't need a licence. This is
    because each video feed is sent individually to each PC.

    However, this technology costs a lot in bandwidth, and some ISPs
    (including my suppliers, Zen) are testing a multicast system which
    effectively means that people can share a data stream. This makes it a
    broadcast according to the regulations, and so you would need a
    licence to view it.

    As very few ADSL modem/router support multicast streams (mine doesn't)
    this is not a significant factor, but I can see that if multicast
    becomes mainstream, you will need a TV licence for some video streamed
    from the web. I anticipate this causing a lot of confusion, because a
    small technical difference will make a big legal difference.

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  13. #13
    Jon
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    Re: Nokia N92 TV license needed?

    [email protected] declared for all the world to hear...
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected] says...
    > > I see. My info is out of date then. WOuldn't be the first time!

    >
    > Is that the official info or was it your own?


    My own.
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    Regards
    Jon



  14. #14
    Steve Terry
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    Re: Nokia N92 TV license needed?


    "T.J." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > With the N92 being able to pick up and receive
    > TV broadcasts, will it mean you have to have a
    > TV license when you buy one?
    > TIA.
    >

    No one needs a TV licence for portable TV receivers

    Steve Terry





  15. #15
    Mike
    Guest

    Re: Nokia N92 TV license needed?

    On Tue, 23 May 2006 21:21:01 GMT, "Steve Terry" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >No one needs a TV licence for portable TV receivers


    There's something about this subject that causes people to
    misunderstand the law.

    For the record, a licence *is* required for a portable television
    receiver if it's installed or used to receive television programme
    services (a term that's defined in the legislation). Under some
    circumstances, such as being powered from its internal batteries and
    being used away from home, a portable TV receiver is covered by the
    licence that covers the home address.

    I'll bore you all silly by quoting the relevant legislation if anyone
    disagrees.

    Mike.

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