O2: respecting your privacy...

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10...ata/print.html

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Steph Davies wrote:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10...ata/print.html

Thanks for the link.

That is scary.

In future I might just get a virgin mobile phone - pay cash only.

Steph Davies wrote:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10...ata/print.html



Is this for FUTURE contracts only? Or does this apply to ALL O2 users.

Can 02 change the T & C *after* I have signed the contract?


Using a mobile phone signal to pin-point my location for commercial
purposes is unacceptable. Thanks for the link.

I will be cancelling my 02 contract today.

On 5 Oct 2006 07:23:36 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>
>Steph Davies wrote:
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10...ata/print.html
>
>
>
>Is this for FUTURE contracts only? Or does this apply to ALL O2 users.
>
>Can 02 change the T & C *after* I have signed the contract?
>
>
>Using a mobile phone signal to pin-point my location for commercial
>purposes is unacceptable. Thanks for the link.
>
>I will be cancelling my 02 contract today.
But surely the article says they all do it. It quotes a lot from data
supplied by T-mobile.

Tiddy Ogg.
http://www.tiddyogg.co.uk

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> Steph Davies wrote:
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10...ata/print.html
>
> Is this for FUTURE contracts only? Or does this apply to ALL O2 users.
> Can 02 change the T & C *after* I have signed the contract?
> Using a mobile phone signal to pin-point my location for commercial
> purposes is unacceptable. Thanks for the link.
> I will be cancelling my 02 contract today.
>
The thing is to take advantage of the system.

A friend who was wanted by the police was called by them
they told him they knew where he was and to give himself up.
So he said he would, he then put the phone on charge
left switched on left behind, and drove to Ireland,
(no passport needed) and started a new life there.

Police probably think he's still in suffolk

Steve Terry

Steve Terry wrote:
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > Steph Davies wrote:
> >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10...ata/print.html
> >
> > Is this for FUTURE contracts only? Or does this apply to ALL O2 users.
> > Can 02 change the T & C *after* I have signed the contract?
> > Using a mobile phone signal to pin-point my location for commercial
> > purposes is unacceptable. Thanks for the link.
> > I will be cancelling my 02 contract today.
> >
> The thing is to take advantage of the system.
>
> A friend who was wanted by the police was called by them
> they told him they knew where he was and to give himself up.
> So he said he would, he then put the phone on charge
> left switched on left behind, and drove to Ireland,
> (no passport needed) and started a new life there.
>
> Police probably think he's still in suffolk
>
> Steve Terry

Is your friend still on the run? Did he do something really bad?

On 5 Oct 2006 07:23:36 -0700, [email protected] wrote:

>
>Steph Davies wrote:
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10...ata/print.html
>
>
>
>Is this for FUTURE contracts only? Or does this apply to ALL O2 users.
>
>Can 02 change the T & C *after* I have signed the contract?
>

Yes.

Any provider of a service "of indeterminate" length can (and usually
will) change the T&C from time to time, including those for existing
customers.

It is perfectly legal so long as the customer is given the opportunity
to cancel without charge before the new terms apply to them.


>
>Using a mobile phone signal to pin-point my location for commercial
>purposes is unacceptable. Thanks for the link.
>
>I will be cancelling my 02 contract today.

I wouldn't take out any other mobile contract if you are concerned
about that, since I imagine they will all be doing it within a few
months.
--
Alex Heney, Global Villager
Never call a man a fool. Instead, borrow from him.
To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom

Alex Heney wrote:
> On 5 Oct 2006 07:23:36 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
>
> >
> >Steph Davies wrote:
> >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10...ata/print.html
> >
> >
> >
> >Is this for FUTURE contracts only? Or does this apply to ALL O2 users.
> >
> >Can 02 change the T & C *after* I have signed the contract?
> >
>
> Yes.
>
> Any provider of a service "of indeterminate" length can (and usually
> will) change the T&C from time to time, including those for existing
> customers.
>
> It is perfectly legal so long as the customer is given the opportunity
> to cancel without charge before the new terms apply to them.
>
>
> >
> >Using a mobile phone signal to pin-point my location for commercial
> >purposes is unacceptable. Thanks for the link.
> >
> >I will be cancelling my 02 contract today.
>
> I wouldn't take out any other mobile contract if you are concerned
> about that, since I imagine they will all be doing it within a few
> months.
> --
> Alex Heney, Global Villager
> Never call a man a fool. Instead, borrow from him.
> To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom

So, I don't need to give them 30 days notice. I can cancel & I wont
have to pay.

In future, I will buy a new phone from virgin megastore & always pay
for top ups using cash.

Screw the free 1000000minutes and 100000texts every month.

They are fleecing us.

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> Steve Terry wrote:
>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> >
>> > Steph Davies wrote:
>> >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10...ata/print.html
<snip>
>> Police probably think he's still in suffolk
>>
>> Steve Terry
>
> Is your friend still on the run? Did he do something really bad?
>
He came back in the end, gave himself up, served time, and has just been
released.

No idea if he got his phone back :-)

Steve Terry

Steve Terry <[email protected]> wrote
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>> Steve Terry wrote:
>>> <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>> >
>>> > Steph Davies wrote:
>>> >>
>>>
>>>
>>> >>>>>>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10...ata/print.html
><snip>
>>> Police probably think he's still in suffolk
>>>
>>> Steve Terry
>>
>> Is your friend still on the run? Did he do something really bad?
>>
>He came back in the end, gave himself up, served time, and has just been
>released.
>
>No idea if he got his phone back :-)
>
>Steve Terry
>
Stole a mobile phone?
--
Gordon Harris

[email protected] wrote:
>
> Using a mobile phone signal to pin-point my location for commercial
> purposes is unacceptable. Thanks for the link.
>
> I will be cancelling my 02 contract today.

But that is not what it says.

O2 wants to pass on information to debt collectors about its customers
in default; that is hardly illegal, but as the article says, selling
information would be.

"The Data Protection Act stops companies sharing information about the
movements of individuals without permission, ..."

If someone chooses to enrol with a directory or navigation service,
either verbal or text, that can give them details of facilities in
their locale, like nearest cashpoint machine, fuel, or tyre fitters, or
give them road directions to their destination, then they will need to
tell the provider where they are, either verbally or by adjusting the
privacy settings in the phone. But this does not mean unsolicited
adverts.

If you are not subscribed to any such services, then it will have no
effect. But change your privacy settings if you wish

[email protected] wrote
>
>Steph Davies wrote:
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/10...ata/print.html
>
>
>
>Is this for FUTURE contracts only? Or does this apply to ALL O2 users.
>
>Can 02 change the T & C *after* I have signed the contract?
>
>
>Using a mobile phone signal to pin-point my location for commercial
>purposes is unacceptable. Thanks for the link.
>
>I will be cancelling my 02 contract today.
>
If you watched Channel 4 "Dispatches" tonight the O2 problem is the
least of our worries. ;-(

Indian call centres sucking details including CC numbers and even the
three security numbers on the back of the card and flogging them.
--
Gordon Harris

[email protected] declared for all the world to hear...
> So, I don't need to give them 30 days notice. I can cancel & I wont
> have to pay.

You can only cancel early if they put the prices up above the RPI or by
a certain percentage of your line rental. A minor change to the terms
such as this one will not affect your service in any way, therefore you
can't use it as an excuse to cancel.
--
Regards
Jon

Gordon wrote:
> If you watched Channel 4 "Dispatches" tonight the O2 problem is the
> least of our worries. ;-(
>
> Indian call centres sucking details including CC numbers and even the
> three security numbers on the back of the card and flogging them.

Because that /never/ happens in call-centres staffed by minimum-wage
British scallies, right?

--
John Band
john at johnband dot org
www.johnband.org

On Fri, 6 Oct 2006 07:26:31 +0100, Jon <[email protected]>
wrote:

>[email protected] declared for all the world to hear...
>> So, I don't need to give them 30 days notice. I can cancel & I wont
>> have to pay.
>
>You can only cancel early if they put the prices up above the RPI or by
>a certain percentage of your line rental. A minor change to the terms
>such as this one will not affect your service in any way, therefore you
>can't use it as an excuse to cancel.

What makes you think that?
--
Alex Heney, Global Villager
URA Redneck if you own more TV's than books.
To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom