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- 11-07-2006, 12:45 AM #1MaliceGuest
Hello.
I've just got a new Sony Ericsson W810i from Orange.
I was wondering if I have to charge the battery for a full 16 hours?
The reason why I'm asking is that the phone said the battery is fully
charged after about a hour. Is this correct?
Thanks.
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- 11-07-2006, 01:47 AM #2NormGuest
Re: New Battery charging
"Malice" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hello.
>
> I've just got a new Sony Ericsson W810i from Orange.
>
> I was wondering if I have to charge the battery for a full 16 hours?
>
> The reason why I'm asking is that the phone said the battery is fully
> charged after about a hour. Is this correct?
>
> Thanks.
>
no, it doesn't make any difference. No one has proved it does!
- 11-07-2006, 02:39 AM #3Mark HewittGuest
Re: New Battery charging
"Malice" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hello.
>
> I've just got a new Sony Ericsson W810i from Orange.
>
> I was wondering if I have to charge the battery for a full 16 hours?
>
> The reason why I'm asking is that the phone said the battery is fully
> charged after about a hour. Is this correct?
I think manufacturers give batteries a full initial charge these days?
- 11-07-2006, 06:13 AM #4David HearnGuest
Re: New Battery charging
Malice wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I've just got a new Sony Ericsson W810i from Orange.
>
> I was wondering if I have to charge the battery for a full 16 hours?
>
> The reason why I'm asking is that the phone said the battery is fully
> charged after about a hour. Is this correct?
>
> Thanks.
What does the manual say?
D
- 11-07-2006, 08:40 AM #5David HearnGuest
Re: New Battery charging
Pun Krocker wrote:
> On 07/11/2006 at 07:47:51 Norm wrote :
>> no, it doesn't make any difference. No one has proved it does!
>
> Surely logic applies, when the circuit senses that the battery is fully
> charged and displays this state, then it is _pointless_ charging for a
> further 14 hours (approx) as it should go into idle or trickle mode!
And there's no benefit for trickle charging a battery for 16 hours?
(That's an unknown answer - but if it does trickle charge, then it is
charging, so isn't necessarily pointless)
D
- 11-07-2006, 10:24 AM #6David RGuest
Re: New Battery charging
"David Hearn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Pun Krocker wrote:
>> On 07/11/2006 at 07:47:51 Norm wrote :
>>> no, it doesn't make any difference. No one has proved it does!
>>
>> Surely logic applies, when the circuit senses that the battery is fully
>> charged and displays this state, then it is _pointless_ charging for a
>> further 14 hours (approx) as it should go into idle or trickle mode!
>
> And there's no benefit for trickle charging a battery for 16 hours?
> (That's an unknown answer - but if it does trickle charge, then it is
> charging, so isn't necessarily pointless)
I emailed SE about this over a year ago; got a response that the charger
doesn't actually trickle charge. It just checks uniformly what's the
percentage of the battery every so often, and when it falls below 98% it'll
burst-charge it again. Sounds pretty pointless. These days, why bother
wasting the energy from the mains power, just use the mobile and remove the
charger.
- 11-07-2006, 01:27 PM #7Ivor JonesGuest
Re: New Battery charging
"Pun Krocker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 07/11/2006 at 07:47:51 Norm wrote :
> > no, it doesn't make any difference. No one has proved
> > it does!
>
> Surely logic applies, when the circuit senses that the
> battery is fully charged and displays this state, then it
> is _pointless_ charging for a further 14 hours (approx)
> as it should go into idle or trickle mode!
Not so. Most manuals state that you should ignore the "fully charged"
message on the first two or three charges and charge for 14-16hrs. The
cells do need a little conditioning when brand new.
Ivor
- 11-07-2006, 01:28 PM #8Ivor JonesGuest
Re: New Battery charging
"Pun Krocker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 07/11/2006 at 06:45:07 Malice wrote :
> > Hello.
>
> > I've just got a new Sony Ericsson W810i from Orange.
>
> > I was wondering if I have to charge the battery for a
> > full 16 hours?
>
> > The reason why I'm asking is that the phone said the
> > battery is fully charged after about a hour. Is this
> > correct?
>
> > Thanks.
>
> Who said 16hrs?
The manual. perhaps..? If it did say so, you would be wise to heed it, it
says so for a reason.
Ivor
- 11-07-2006, 02:12 PM #9Steve TerryGuest
Re: New Battery charging
"Pun Krocker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 07/11/2006 at 19:27:32 Ivor Jones wrote :
>> Not so. Most manuals state that you should ignore the "fully charged"
>> message on the first two or three charges and charge for 14-16hrs. The
>> cells do need a little conditioning when brand new.
>
> I would have thought _battery_ _cycling_ was more important in todays
> battery! Usually letting the battery *fully* discharge before re-charging
> three times was more in line with todays technology.
>
>
Nope that only drys the cells out
Steve Terry
- 11-07-2006, 02:20 PM #10JonGuest
Re: New Battery charging
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hear...
> Hello.
>
> I've just got a new Sony Ericsson W810i from Orange.
>
> I was wondering if I have to charge the battery for a full 16 hours?
>
> The reason why I'm asking is that the phone said the battery is fully
> charged after about a hour. Is this correct?
Yes it is correct, and yes you should charge it for a long while first
time round. Leave it on overnight, you won't harm it.
--
Regards
Jon
- 11-07-2006, 02:21 PM #11JonGuest
Re: New Battery charging
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> I think manufacturers give batteries a full initial charge these days?
You think wrong.
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Regards
Jon
- 11-07-2006, 05:36 PM #12Steve TerryGuest
Re: New Battery charging
"Pun Krocker" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On 07/11/2006 at 20:12:24 Steve Terry wrote :
>> Nope that only drys the cells out
>
> I am sure Nokia recommends this for the first 3 charges!
>
That's OK, just don't make it habitual
Steve Terry
- 11-08-2006, 02:03 AM #13PajaPGuest
Re: New Battery charging
On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 06:45:07 -0000, "Malice"
<[email protected]> wrote:
>Hello.
>
>I've just got a new Sony Ericsson W810i from Orange.
>
>I was wondering if I have to charge the battery for a full 16 hours?
>
>The reason why I'm asking is that the phone said the battery is fully
>charged after about a hour. Is this correct?
>
I think, I got the link below from this group some time ago.
I am not endorsing the information the site contains but I follow the
guidance and the life and performance of my batteries has always been
good. Certainly no evidence to suggest there have been any negative
effects.
http://www.hairydog.co.uk/battery.html
--
Thanks
PajaP
- 11-08-2006, 03:50 AM #14Guest
Re: New Battery charging
On Tue, 07 Nov 2006 19:53:56 GMT, Pun Krocker <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I would have thought _battery_ _cycling_ was more important in todays
>battery! Usually letting the battery *fully* discharge before
>re-charging three times was more in line with todays technology.
Very definitely not. If you discharge a modern battery fully, it is
scrap. They have embedded electronics to help prevent such abuse, but
people still try.
--
Iain
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- 11-08-2006, 03:50 AM #15Guest
Re: New Battery charging
On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 08:39:25 -0000, "Mark Hewitt" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>I think manufacturers give batteries a full initial charge these days?
No. They charge the batteries enough to stop them running flat before
sale. If the battery was supplied uncharged, and its residual charge
dissipated, the battery would need to be replaced.
They are never supplied fully charged.
--
Iain
the out-of-date hairydog guide to mobile phones
http://www.hairydog.co.uk/cell1.html
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