X Series on 3 or Blackberry

I am trying to decide between ourchasing a Blackberry phone on 02 or X
Series phone on 3.

My main aim being at least 400 X network minutes per month, access to my
emails (send/recv 100 emails per week), little bit of surfing the net. and
ability to make SIP and or Skype calls.

Sid

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Just started (2 days) using the X-Series Silver service (£5pm) using my N73.

Mobile Mail: I've tested sending email from works email and takes about
10-20 seconds to appear on my mobile. Sending emails from the N73 works fine
as well apart from I can't work out how to save the sent message on my
mobile?
Skype works no probs, tried last night between by mobile-laptop, and
vice-versa.
Free MSN Messenger works fine, few probs logging in at times, but seems to
be about 4-5pm time.
Yahoo! GO (Yahoo Mail direct to your mobile, Yahoo Messenger, Yahoo Photos,
sync Calendar & Contacts)
Mobilcast; Can't seem to listen to podcasts from the Mobilcasst app in-built
player, downloaded a few of the BBC Radio1 podcast and they play okay using
the N73 Music player.
I downloaded Opera Mini 3.0 and accessing the internet via that, seems a lot
quicker.

Never used a Blackberry, but what can it do that a mobile can't?

--
Gerry (The MOTH)

"Yaz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I am trying to decide between ourchasing a Blackberry phone on 02 or X
>Series phone on 3.
>
> My main aim being at least 400 X network minutes per month, access to my
> emails (send/recv 100 emails per week), little bit of surfing the net.
> and ability to make SIP and or Skype calls.
>
> Sid
>

"Gerry (The MOTH)" <Gerry (TheMOTH)> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Just started (2 days) using the X-Series Silver service (£5pm) using my
> N73.
>
> Mobile Mail: I've tested sending email from works email and takes about
> 10-20 seconds to appear on my mobile. Sending emails from the N73 works
> fine as well apart from I can't work out how to save the sent message on
> my mobile?
With the Blackberry it is instant you send or receive messages instantly.
It works on a Push email principal. Basically means it is instant viz GPRS.

the Blackberry is also an organiser/ diary etc

> Skype works no probs, tried last night between by mobile-laptop, and
> vice-versa.
I suppose you can call skypers using your free miunte allowance or is that
on top of the free minute allowance?

Dont know if it is possible to skype from a Blackberry

Dont know if it can download SIP software to? eg FWD?

I suppose we would have to hear from any Blackberry users out there?


>
> --
> Gerry (The MOTH)
>
> "Yaz" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>I am trying to decide between ourchasing a Blackberry phone on 02 or X
>>Series phone on 3.
>>
>> My main aim being at least 400 X network minutes per month, access to my
>> emails (send/recv 100 emails per week), little bit of surfing the net.
>> and ability to make SIP and or Skype calls.
>>
>> Sid
>>
>
>

On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 12:47:43 GMT, "Yaz"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>>
>> Mobile Mail: I've tested sending email from works email and takes about
>> 10-20 seconds to appear on my mobile. Sending emails from the N73 works
>> fine as well apart from I can't work out how to save the sent message on
>> my mobile?
>With the Blackberry it is instant you send or receive messages instantly.
>It works on a Push email principal. Basically means it is instant viz GPRS.

Not sure that is correct. Most Service Providers Blackberry servers
that I know of & have used (TMobile & O2) only poll for email every 15
mins.

Unless it's changed ?

Cheers

Jim!

Jim! wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 12:47:43 GMT, "Yaz"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Mobile Mail: I've tested sending email from works email and takes about
>>> 10-20 seconds to appear on my mobile. Sending emails from the N73 works
>>> fine as well apart from I can't work out how to save the sent message on
>>> my mobile?
>> With the Blackberry it is instant you send or receive messages instantly.
>> It works on a Push email principal. Basically means it is instant viz
>> GPRS.
>
> Not sure that is correct. Most Service Providers Blackberry servers
> that I know of & have used (TMobile & O2) only poll for email every 15
> mins.
>
> Unless it's changed ?
>
> Cheers
>
> Jim!

If all it does is poll every fifteen minutes, what difference exists between
that and just sticking your pop3 server settings and allowing it to check
every fifteen minutes? Something that almost every phone for the last five
years has the capabilty of??

Gaz

Jim! wrote:
> On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 12:47:43 GMT, "Yaz"
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> Mobile Mail: I've tested sending email from works email and takes about
>>> 10-20 seconds to appear on my mobile. Sending emails from the N73 works
>>> fine as well apart from I can't work out how to save the sent message on
>>> my mobile?
>> With the Blackberry it is instant you send or receive messages instantly.
>> It works on a Push email principal. Basically means it is instant viz GPRS.
>
> Not sure that is correct. Most Service Providers Blackberry servers
> that I know of & have used (TMobile & O2) only poll for email every 15
> mins.

The Blackberry server may poll the POP3 boxes every 15 minutes, but once
the BB server has the mails they should arrive at the handset instantly.

Gaz wrote:
>
> If all it does is poll every fifteen minutes, what difference exists between
> that and just sticking your pop3 server settings and allowing it to check
> every fifteen minutes? Something that almost every phone for the last five
> years has the capabilty of??

Functionality wise, nothing I suppose.

Don't Blackberry plans usually have unlimited data to/from the
Blackberry server? Polling a POP3 box via normal GPRS gets expensive
quickly depending on your data plan.. Even at 15 minute intervals.

My own personal best was 60MB in a month, or about £60 IIRC. On a
Blackberry plan this would've been free.. or it would've been with my
telco anyway. I was quick to find a different mail client that supported
scheduling so it'd only check mail between certain hours of the day.

[email protected] declared for all the world to hear...
> Jim! wrote:
> > On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 12:47:43 GMT, "Yaz"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>>
> >>> Mobile Mail: I've tested sending email from works email and takes about
> >>> 10-20 seconds to appear on my mobile. Sending emails from the N73 works
> >>> fine as well apart from I can't work out how to save the sent message on
> >>> my mobile?
> >> With the Blackberry it is instant you send or receive messages instantly.
> >> It works on a Push email principal. Basically means it is instant viz
> >> GPRS.
> >
> > Not sure that is correct. Most Service Providers Blackberry servers
> > that I know of & have used (TMobile & O2) only poll for email every 15
> > mins.
> >
> > Unless it's changed ?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Jim!
>
> If all it does is poll every fifteen minutes, what difference exists between
> that and just sticking your pop3 server settings and allowing it to check
> every fifteen minutes? Something that almost every phone for the last five
> years has the capabilty of??

I've briefly seen an Orange one in action and it updated almost
instantly.
--
Regards
Jon

On Thu, 7 Dec 2006 02:06:31 -0000, "Gaz" <[email protected]> wrote:

>Jim! wrote:
>> On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 12:47:43 GMT, "Yaz"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> Mobile Mail: I've tested sending email from works email and takes about
>>>> 10-20 seconds to appear on my mobile. Sending emails from the N73 works
>>>> fine as well apart from I can't work out how to save the sent message on
>>>> my mobile?
>>> With the Blackberry it is instant you send or receive messages instantly.
>>> It works on a Push email principal. Basically means it is instant viz
>>> GPRS.
>>
>> Not sure that is correct. Most Service Providers Blackberry servers
>> that I know of & have used (TMobile & O2) only poll for email every 15
>> mins.
>>
>> Unless it's changed ?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Jim!
>
>If all it does is poll every fifteen minutes, what difference exists between
>that and just sticking your pop3 server settings and allowing it to check
>every fifteen minutes? Something that almost every phone for the last five
>years has the capabilty of??
>

A copy of all my regular e-mails gets forwarded to my "special" e-mail
address hosted by my telco and that gets forwarded to my Blackberry
(subject to user defined rules)

When someone sends me an email, I normally receive it within a few
seconds of it being sent - although that of course depends on the
speed of their outgoing server.

In short, it is pretty close to instant.

Me

Me wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Dec 2006 02:06:31 -0000, "Gaz" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Jim! wrote:
>>> On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 12:47:43 GMT, "Yaz"
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mobile Mail: I've tested sending email from works email and takes
>>>>> about
>>>>> 10-20 seconds to appear on my mobile. Sending emails from the N73
>>>>> works
>>>>> fine as well apart from I can't work out how to save the sent message
>>>>> on
>>>>> my mobile?
>>>> With the Blackberry it is instant you send or receive messages
>>>> instantly.
>>>> It works on a Push email principal. Basically means it is instant viz
>>>> GPRS.
>>>
>>> Not sure that is correct. Most Service Providers Blackberry servers
>>> that I know of & have used (TMobile & O2) only poll for email every 15
>>> mins.
>>>
>>> Unless it's changed ?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Jim!
>>
>> If all it does is poll every fifteen minutes, what difference exists
>> between
>> that and just sticking your pop3 server settings and allowing it to check
>> every fifteen minutes? Something that almost every phone for the last
>> five
>> years has the capabilty of??
>>
>
> A copy of all my regular e-mails gets forwarded to my "special" e-mail
> address hosted by my telco and that gets forwarded to my Blackberry
> (subject to user defined rules)
>
> When someone sends me an email, I normally receive it within a few
> seconds of it being sent - although that of course depends on the
> speed of their outgoing server.
>
> In short, it is pretty close to instant.
>
> Me

Good, I am about to get a blackberry 8707g (3g capable), on o2, with 250mins
cross network, and unlimited downloads (using the most bizzare definition of
unlimited i have ever come across, 75mb......) for £38 a month on a twelve
month contract.

These are based on individual users, not corporations...

Tmobile can knock that price down a bit, but you lose some of the specific
blackberry functions, unless you hand them over an extra £10 of cash a
month, making it about the same.

Gaz

> Mobilcast; Can't seem to listen to podcasts from the Mobilcasst app in-built
> player, downloaded a few of the BBC Radio1 podcast and they play okay using
> the N73 Music player.


Can you stream real audio on these things ? I'd like to be able to
listen to bbc radio online as the reception is pants here

S

> Mobilcast; Can't seem to listen to podcasts from the Mobilcasst app in-built
> player, downloaded a few of the BBC Radio1 podcast and they play okay using
> the N73 Music player.


Can you stream real audio on these things ? I'd like to be able to
listen to bbc radio online as the reception is pants here

S

"Simon Dobson" <[email protected]> wrote >>>> Mobile Mail:
I've tested sending email from works email and takes about
>> Not sure that is correct. Most Service Providers Blackberry servers
>> that I know of & have used (TMobile & O2) only poll for email every 15
>> mins.
>
Can anyone tell me if you are able to surf the net on a blackberry?

Yaz