TMob PAYG now where please ..

On 23 Jan 2007 10:59:16 +0000 (GMT), Theo Markettos
<[email protected]> wrote:

>T i m <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Wow, thanks to Theo and everyone who has replied so far and I think
>> Theo has reminded me why I generally say out of this mobile phone
>> price plan quagmire!
>
>:-)
>
>> A friends says "if you can measure it you can manage it" so maybe
>> that's what we need to do with her phone use to be able to make an
>> intelegent descion?
>
>Probably it'd help. Though it's complicated because behaviour isn't fixed -
>she might have an urgent need to do something, or have flexibility in her
>usage (wait until off-peak, say) which makes doing this sort of calculation
>hard.

Yes, it does seem so. I've never been interested in maths for fun and
as you note the variables may well be too variable for the maths to be
much more than a guesstimate anyway?

>And the difference between the plans is usually less than this sort
>of variation.

Indeed .. that makes me feel less useless anyway ;-)

>However if you're on a really terrible tariff (say 35p/min,
>10p/text, silly money to call 0845, no bonuses) then it's worth switching to
>a new one: just the perfect optimisation could be tricky.

Hmm, I think I gave perfection up as a goal 5 mins into this exercise!
FWIW I believe she's on T-Mob Everyone PAYG so that's a flat 12p voice
and 10p texts.
>
>10-15 pounds/month seems to be a sweet spot, above which things get much
>easier (lower rates, free text bundles, etc) on PAYG. It's just that if you
>don't know your usage is going to always be above this then it's harder to
>call (and if it is above there are low-end contracts to also consider).

Hmm, and there's something nice in the simplicity of PAYG re no
contracts nor direct debit etc.
>
>> I'm pretty sure she only calls std landlines and mobiles ("Dad, can
>> you come and pick me up" sorta thing) and I'm not aware of her
>> 'chatting' on the mobile. The thing is I think texts would be sent
>> 24/7 so I'm not sure how much she would get out of off-peak texts?
>
>Personally I like Tesco as you don't have to do these sort of mind-bending
>calculations every time you use the phone - it's the same price, always, to
>anywhere.

So like T-Mob Everyone then ..?

>It's not completely optimal, but a few mins to National Rail
>Enquiries or something on T-Mob would wipe out any savings I might have made
>during the rest of the month. I'd rather not have that 'this call is going
>to cost a fortune, should I make it?' thought.

Hmm, I feel this way whenever I use any mobile, or phone for that
matter .. used CB / AR too long I guess. ;-)
>
>Depends what she uses it for, but I suspect a lot of texts are sent during
>the day while people are at school/work/etc

Yep ..

>and want to communicate with
>friends/family, and calls are used more in the evening.

To be fair to her 'calls' are more generally to just let us know what
she is up to or book Daddycab etc. There are the calls to mates
confirming meets / time etc of course but she generally keeps them
fairly short.

>In which case
>off-peak texts probably aren't so useful, particularly if 'off-peak' is
>defined as after 7.30 or 8 in the evening.

No, nor off peak calls really (especially at those times as you say).

If she's at home she has her own NTL telephone line (and inter NTL
calls are free I believe and her NTL bill is ~£4/m) but she generally
*makes* calls via MSN / Skype. ;-)

Funnily I did buy a couple of Tesco PAYG SIM's a while back .. I might
dig them out and see if they are still alive. Am I right in thinking
Tesco use T-Mob's net?

All the best ..

T i m

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T i m <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 23 Jan 2007 10:59:16 +0000 (GMT), Theo Markettos
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes, it does seem so. I've never been interested in maths for fun and
> as you note the variables may well be too variable for the maths to be
> much more than a guesstimate anyway?

Probably. Though maybe it's worth looking at the history anyway - often
people say 'oooh, and I want to be able to phone Uncle Freddy in Antarctica'
but then never actually do so, so speccing out from past usage might be more
realistic than guessing aspirations.

> Hmm, I think I gave perfection up as a goal 5 mins into this exercise!
> FWIW I believe she's on T-Mob Everyone PAYG so that's a flat 12p voice
> and 10p texts.

That sounds a sensible starting point. Text costs are high, but if she's
spending 20 quid a month on texts then text bundles are going to be worth it
and not expire unused.

>>Personally I like Tesco as you don't have to do these sort of mind-bending
>>calculations every time you use the phone - it's the same price, always, to
>>anywhere.
>
> So like T-Mob Everyone then ..?

Yup, though it's also 15p for 0800/0845/0870 and even 0844/0871 - so I can
call most of the world for that price. (I've only asked Tesco directly
about one 0871 number, but the others I've called were also 15p AFAICS)

> Hmm, I feel this way whenever I use any mobile, or phone for that
> matter .. used CB / AR too long I guess. ;-)

Indeed, me too. But then I didn't use the landline much in the days when
national calls were 10p/min (or more before 1pm?) so perhaps I'm spoilt

> Funnily I did buy a couple of Tesco PAYG SIM's a while back .. I might
> dig them out and see if they are still alive. Am I right in thinking
> Tesco use T-Mob's net?

Nope, it's O2's network (900MHz mostly). Virgin and Fresh use T-Mob's.

Theo

On 23 Jan 2007 19:08:52 +0000 (GMT), Theo Markettos
<[email protected]> wrote:

<snip>
>> I believe she's on T-Mob Everyone PAYG so that's a flat 12p voice
>> and 10p texts.
>
>That sounds a sensible starting point. Text costs are high, but if she's
>spending 20 quid a month on texts then text bundles are going to be worth it
>and not expire unused.

Sri, are these 'bolt on's' to Everyone or summat else please Theo?
>
>
>Yup, though it's also 15p for 0800/0845/0870 and even 0844/0871 - so I can
>call most of the world for that price. (I've only asked Tesco directly
>about one 0871 number, but the others I've called were also 15p AFAICS)

Ok ta. I'm pretty sure she's only ever called std land lines or mates
mobiles.
>
>> Hmm, I feel this way whenever I use any mobile, or phone for that
>> matter .. used CB / AR too long I guess. ;-)
>
>Indeed, me too. But then I didn't use the landline much in the days when
>national calls were 10p/min (or more before 1pm?) so perhaps I'm spoilt

;-)
>
>
>Nope, it's O2's network (900MHz mostly). Virgin and Fresh use T-Mob's.

Ah, ok, ta.

All the best and thanks again ..

T i m

On 23/1/07 10:28 am, T i m wrote:
>
> I guess you also *have* to have these on DD (what if the phone get's
> nicked etc)? U-Fix Text £20 ?
>

Register the phone and they'll block it as soon as you notify them.

> So, Relax 20, £20/m 100 mins, 25 (+500 free) = 525 texts (calls 20p /
> min flat)
>
> Flex 25, £20 (£5 0ff) and say 100 mins leaving 400 texts. (calls, 12 /
> 10 / 35p / min)
>
> Then we have the choice of phone .. <sigh> ..

Point her at the web site and tell her to pick one.

Then take it from there...



--
David Kennedy

http://www.anindianinexile.com

T i m <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 23 Jan 2007 19:08:52 +0000 (GMT), Theo Markettos
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>That sounds a sensible starting point. Text costs are high, but if she's
>>spending 20 quid a month on texts then text bundles are going to be worth it
>>and not expire unused.
>
> Sri, are these 'bolt on's' to Everyone or summat else please Theo?

Pass... in this thread in
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
James Lewis suggested they were for PAYG so they'll probably apply to
Everyone... but they don't seem to show on the website. Try ringing t-mob
to find out.

Theo

On 24 Jan 2007 11:23:47 +0000 (GMT), Theo Markettos
<[email protected]> wrote:

>T i m <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 23 Jan 2007 19:08:52 +0000 (GMT), Theo Markettos
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>That sounds a sensible starting point. Text costs are high, but if she's
>>>spending 20 quid a month on texts then text bundles are going to be worth it
>>>and not expire unused.
>>
>> Sri, are these 'bolt on's' to Everyone or summat else please Theo?
>
>Pass... in this thread in
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
>James Lewis suggested they were for PAYG so they'll probably apply to
>Everyone... but they don't seem to show on the website.

I think I've found a hint to them on T-Mobs web site but 'she who
manages our phones online' was distracted with the soaps stuff last
night so didn't look into it further.

> Try ringing t-mob
>to find out.

'Ringing' .. hmmm, as in actually talking to someone on the phone ..
nah, no one does that any more right? They do! .. ok, I'll give it a
try .. ;-)

All the best ..

T i m

www.t-mobile.co.uk/messaging and then click on text messaging for the
available bundles. I think they can be applied to any of the pay as you go
price plans; (however applying a text bundle on the 'text appeal' price plan
wouldnt be as good value as applying it to 'everyone')

On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:58:20 -0000, "James Lewis"
<no_spam_£[email protected]> wrote:

>www.t-mobile.co.uk/messaging and then click on text messaging for the
>available bundles. I think they can be applied to any of the pay as you go
>price plans; (however applying a text bundle on the 'text appeal' price plan
>wouldnt be as good value as applying it to 'everyone')
>
"Pay as you go customers who connected before 18/04/2002 will need to
change to our Relax plan" ;-(

So, do we just get a new T-Mob SIM on Everyone and apply the bundle to
that?

All the best ..

T i m

the current sim card should be fine. call 150 and you can purchace text
bundles. the charge say £25 for 500 messages will be taken from remainng
credit.


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> On Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:58:20 -0000, "James Lewis"
> <no_spam_£[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>www.t-mobile.co.uk/messaging and then click on text messaging for the
>>available bundles. I think they can be applied to any of the pay as you
>>go
>>price plans; (however applying a text bundle on the 'text appeal' price
>>plan
>>wouldnt be as good value as applying it to 'everyone')
>>
> "Pay as you go customers who connected before 18/04/2002 will need to
> change to our Relax plan" ;-(
>
> So, do we just get a new T-Mob SIM on Everyone and apply the bundle to
> that?
>
> All the best ..
>
> T i m
>
>