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  1. #61
    Brimstone
    Guest

    Re: About time too!

    mogga wrote:
    > On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 10:28:38 +0000, Alex Buell
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >> On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:49:27 +0000, I waved a wand and this message
    >> magically appears in front of mogga:
    >>
    >>> I'm more interested to see what steps will be taken to stop people
    >>> driving when they've clocked up their ban. Can the police wheel
    >>> clapm drivers?, tag cars?

    >>
    >> Set fire to their driving licence and crush their cars?

    >
    > And chop their wallets off to stop them buying a new one?


    And their fingers to stop them stealing a car?





    See More: About time too!




  2. #62
    The Reid
    Guest

    Re: About time too!

    On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:59:50 +0000, Steve <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Mr Alexander said: "Research shows that talking on a mobile phone
    >while driving affects your concentration and ability to react to
    >dangerous situations.


    YES!!!

    >"It's quite simple - it's impossible to do two things at once and do
    >them well.


    To an extent, YES!!!

    GREAT!!!!! So hands frees are banned too YES!!!!! Er, they are, are
    they????
    --
    Mike Reid
    UK walking, food, photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
    Spain walking, food, tourism "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
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  3. #63
    The Reid
    Guest

    Re: About time too!

    On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:49:33 +0000, Charlie Mitchell
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    > for that incredibly important phone call
    >that simply wont wait, than than lose my livelihood by losing
    >my licence.


    if a call is incredibly important, as you say, can you concentrate on
    it and driving?
    --
    Mike Reid
    UK walking, food, photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
    Spain walking, food, tourism "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
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  4. #64
    The Reid
    Guest

    Re: About time too!

    On 22 Jan 2007 21:53:27 GMT, Adrian <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Of course, you won't actually GET the message until you get to your
    >destination and turn your phone back on.
    >
    >Bit of a bugger if the message left five minutes after you leave the office
    >tells you that the meeting you're heading to (three hours away) is
    >cancelled ...


    isnt the ban on using phone, will it be illegal to have it switched on
    and stop to read messages?
    --
    Mike Reid
    UK walking, food, photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
    Spain walking, food, tourism "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
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  5. #65
    The Reid
    Guest

    Re: About time too!

    On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:53:41 +0000, James Luff
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >I'm all for it, but let's also ban smoking while driving. How is that
    >any different to having a phone in your hand!


    the way our law is its no different, its the phone call itself that
    distracts, (as could a passenger with no sense).
    --
    Mike Reid
    UK walking, food, photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
    Spain walking, food, tourism "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
    Beginners UK flight sim addons "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"



  6. #66
    The Traveller
    Guest

    Re: About time too!


    "The Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:53:41 +0000, James Luff
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > >I'm all for it, but let's also ban smoking while driving. How is that
    > >any different to having a phone in your hand!

    >
    > the way our law is its no different, its the phone call itself that
    > distracts, (as could a passenger with no sense).
    > --
    > Mike Reid
    > UK walking, food, photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@

    this site
    > Spain walking, food, tourism "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
    > Beginners UK flight sim addons "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"


    Gees. The lake distric- unbelievable good photos. The way you have used the
    light. Wow.
    Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh! I wanna go home.

    Edith.





  7. #67
    The Reid
    Guest

    Re: About time too!

    On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:02:15 +0100, "The Traveller" <[email protected]>
    wrote:

    >Gees. The lake distric- unbelievable good photos. The way you have used the
    >light. Wow.


    thanks!

    >Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh! I wanna go home.


    Where are you from?
    --
    Mike Reid
    UK walking, food, photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@ this site
    Spain walking, food, tourism "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
    Beginners UK flight sim addons "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"



  8. #68
    The Traveller
    Guest

    Re: About time too!


    "The Reid" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 13:02:15 +0100, "The Traveller" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >Gees. The lake distric- unbelievable good photos. The way you have used

    the
    > >light. Wow.

    >
    > thanks!
    >
    > >Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh! I wanna go home.

    >
    > Where are you from?
    > --
    > Mike Reid
    > UK walking, food, photos "http://www.fellwalk.co.uk" <-- you can email us@

    this site
    > Spain walking, food, tourism "http://www.fell-walker.co.uk"
    > Beginners UK flight sim addons "http://www.lawn-mower-man.co.uk"


    Didn't mean to cross post, Mike. Do you think you could mosey on over to
    uklc, please.

    Cumbrian Edith.





  9. #69
    David Taylor
    Guest

    Re: About time too!

    On 2007-01-22, James Luff <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > So let's ban the driver from talking to someone in the back seat of the
    > car. After all how different is that to talking to someone via a hands
    > free kit? It required the same level of concentration.
    >
    > The point is, that talking on a mobile phone removes one hand from the
    > wheel. Talking hands free doesn't.


    So does changing gear. That's not illegal, yet.

    --
    David Taylor



  10. #70
    The Drone
    Guest

    Re: About time too!

    In article <[email protected]>, The Reid
    <[email protected]> writes
    >On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 20:53:41 +0000, James Luff
    ><[email protected]> wrote:


    >>I'm all for it, but let's also ban smoking while driving. How is that
    >>any different to having a phone in your hand!


    >the way our law is its no different, its the phone call itself that
    >distracts, (as could a passenger with no sense).


    SWMBO told me about a colleague she had to drive in to work (because the
    colleague was injured). Colleague is an utter liability with vague
    directions and, when they're misinterpreted, flailing arms so obscuring
    the passenger side mirror and general panic causing sufficient
    distraction to come within an ace of causing an accident. Any more of
    that and injured colleague will find herself getting a taxi into work.
    --
    Peter



  11. #71
    XPUser
    Guest

    Re: About time too!

    Dave C wrote:
    > JAF wrote:
    >>
    >>> On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 19:43:58 +0000, TFP wrote:
    >>>> Absolutely right. Down here in London / Surrey it is incrdible
    >>>> how many t0$$ers you see in 30k cars who can't afford 50 quid for
    >>>> a handsfree kit.

    >> Even if they were given away free, who wants to look like a Star Trek
    >> cast-off, with a naff lump of plastic stuck in your ear?
    >>

    > I prefer that to some stupid idiot killing people.
    >
    > I saw one of those 30k plus cars this week with the driver having a
    > phone in one hand and a sandwich in the other.
    >
    > Personally, I would skip the fine and the points and just confiscate
    > the car.


    I dont fancy a lump of plastic stuck to my ear, and its nothing to do with
    money, its to do with looking like a twat. I drive a "30K" car, and wont
    waste my money on a bluetooth earpiece. My phone has a loudspeaker built-in
    so I just use that. I do however use common sense on whether I tell the
    caller I will call them back, or actually take the call. I will read text
    mesasge whilst driving, but will never write a text mesage whilst driving.
    However thats to do with the fact I rather phone than send a text.

    Lets face it the mobile phone law, is another money making scheme. Its got
    nothing to do with safety. I can quite happily program my sat nav device
    (which is more distracting), and I wont be breaking the law.

    I have been driving and have had a mobile phone for over ten years. Luckily
    I have not had an accident whilst on the phone. I have however had two
    accidents whilst I have not been on the phone. Therefore it is logical to
    conclude, for me, it is safer to drive whilst I am on the phone.







  12. #72
    Silk
    Guest

    Re: About time too!

    The Traveller wrote:
    > "Steve" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> Drivers face new phone penalties
    >>

    > Newest traffic law today here is 2000 krones


    That's about 50p in real money. :-)



  13. #73
    nullified
    Guest

    CB radios: was Re: About time too!

    On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:59:50 +0000, Steve <[email protected]> wrote:

    So, given all this blah re: new penalties for answering your mobile,
    whats the situation with regard to CB radio's? The Landie has a CB
    which I hardly ever use, but when laning it comes in handy when you
    get stuck (which I appear to do more than most...). Since Green Lanes
    are technically roads, is it really the case that its perfectly legal
    to use a wired mic and switch channels etc, but its NOT okay to use a
    mobile?



  14. #74
    banjo
    Guest

    Re: CB radios: was Re: About time too!



    "nullified" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 18:59:50 +0000, Steve <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > So, given all this blah re: new penalties for answering your mobile,
    > whats the situation with regard to CB radio's? The Landie has a CB
    > which I hardly ever use, but when laning it comes in handy when you
    > get stuck (which I appear to do more than most...). Since Green Lanes
    > are technically roads, is it really the case that its perfectly legal
    > to use a wired mic and switch channels etc, but its NOT okay to use a
    > mobile?



    yes yes and yes






  15. #75
    Francis Burton
    Guest

    Re: About time too!

    In article <[email protected]>,
    David Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
    >> The point is, that talking on a mobile phone removes one hand from the
    >> wheel. Talking hands free doesn't.

    >
    >So does changing gear. That's not illegal, yet.


    One simple and fair solution would be to mandate installation of a
    'black box' recorder taking input from forward and backward pointing
    miniature video cameras, a decelerometer and possibly other sensors
    which stores the last minute leading up to an accident. The recording
    would be encrypted and readable only by the police (and made available
    to the insurance company), so there should be no very serious privacy
    concerns. In the event of an accident and the recording being frozen,
    the video evidence would be reviewed. If it showed that the driver was
    not paying due attention to the road ahead for any reason, including
    (but not limited to) mobile phone use or changing gear, she would be
    liable to prosecution and penalties vis a vis insurance. Of course, it
    could also be used to exonerate blameless drivers.

    For many drivers, the knowledge that negligence is more likely to be
    detected would encourage safer driving. It is unlikely to change the
    behaviour of the truly stupid, but it would make them more accountable
    for the fruits of their stupidity.

    Such a scheme would not be cheap. However, if it saves the life of one
    child etc.

    Francis



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