Carphone Warehouse 0870 scam exposed

> take a look down your local amenity tip, I bet a penny to a pinch if sh1t
> that there is a line of Dysons there somewhere. That guy is making a
> fortune selling goods that can't stand the test of time.
>

yes my Dyson is made of old parts except that swivelling bit with the belt
and brush ..........

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> You've also got to look after things properly. Too many people expect
> things to work all on their own with no human intervention for service
> and maintenence. Most of the refurbished\reconditioned stuff we come
> Regards,
> Stuart.

yes my 1991 merc 190E as never seen a garage except for a MOT 190k
miles.....the cheapest car I have ever owned...just change the oil and
filter every 5k ......Quality .......

On 30 Mar, 22:30, "Lardboy" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Mar 30, 10:08 pm, "Andrew Woodvine" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On 30 Mar, 17:51, "Lardboy" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > The clock you used is not controlled via a signal from Rugby as you
> > say. It's set via a signal from Anthron, Cumbria, see:
>
> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6483969.stm
>
> ---------------------------
> "The change at 0100 GMT was the last one to be signalled from Rugby,
> in Warwickshire, which has been the source of the time signal since
> 1927.>From 31 March, the long-wave signal, which helps keep the "pips" heard
>
> on BBC radio services accurate, will start to be broadcast from
> Anthorn, Cumbria. "
> ---------------------------
>
> I made the video on the 29th March

Indeed you did! I did check the date, but somehow thought you made it
later than that. I got home from the pub having had a good few beers
and felt it neccessary to make that post. My apologies!

Andrew Woodvine

On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:16:00 -0700, dpydotsmw wrote:
<snip>
> Craphone Warehouse - what a ****ing liberty.

Crackphone Whorehouse?

Crackhouse Whorephone?

The possibilities are endless...

On 31 Mar, 14:17, M Storey <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:16:00 -0700, dpydotsmw wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> > Craphone Warehouse - what a ****ing liberty.
>
> Crackphone Whorehouse?
>
> Crackhouse Whorephone?
>
> The possibilities are endless...

Still a ****ing liberty though.

On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 09:54:10 +0100, "Pongo Potts"
<[email protected]> mused:

>
>"Lurch" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 07:31:09 +0100, "Pongo Potts"
>> <[email protected]> mused:
>>
>>>
>>>"Jim GM4DHJ" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>>news:[email protected]...
>>>> Isn't modern life ****...I try never to buy anything with guarantees
>>>> because of this...I just take a chance and bin things that stop working
>>>> if
>>>> I can't sort them out myself.......
>>>>
>>>
>>>yes, we are heading that way.
>>>
>>>I do same thing for all white goods no matter what age...............just
>>>bin it.
>>>
>>>take a look down your local amenity tip, I bet a penny to a pinch if sh1t
>>>that there is a line of Dysons there somewhere. That guy is making a
>>>fortune
>>>selling goods that can't stand the test of time.
>>>
>> I'll also bet that someone like me takes those Dysons away, cleans the
>> filters and gives them a wipe over then sells them on again as they
>> will be near enough brand new.
>>
>> You've also got to look after things properly. Too many people expect
>> things to work all on their own with no human intervention for service
>> and maintenence. Most of the refurbished\reconditioned stuff we come
>> across is simply cleaning\regular maintenence, which if the original
>> owner did they would still have the machine working for amny years.
>>
>> People also expect things to be bombproof, they're not, you can
>> overload and break things.
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Stuart.
>
>the upright Dyson has a particular part within the filter system that is not
>repairable............only replaceable...............I speak from experience
>as I know an expert who has met this problem.................needles to say
>the replacement/repair outcosts getting another cleaner.
>
I'd like to see where a filter costs more than a new Dyson.

I understand theat replacement parts for a decent model will cost more
than a cheaper version of the same device, but generally parts for
Dysons are cheaper than new ones.
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Regards,
Stuart.

On 2007-03-30, Ivor Jones <[email protected]> wrote:
> "Lardboy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]
>> On Mar 30, 10:08 pm, "Andrew Woodvine"
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > The clock you used is not controlled via a signal from
>> > Rugby as you say. It's set via a signal from Anthron,
>> > Cumbria, see:
>> >
>> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/6483969.stm
>
> From that article:
>
>>The national time signal is accurate to within 1,000th of a second of
>>Co-ordinated Universal Time.
>>It is controlled by two caesium atomic clocks housed at the antenna in
>>Rugby.
>
> Eh..? Atomic clocks at the antenna site..? Here's me thinking the clocks
> were at NPL in Teddington, or have I got it wrong all these years..?

The people who know what time it is run the clocks at NPL. The
caesium oscillators at the transmitter site will be used to control
the transmitter frequency and time code transitions, but the time
and frequency of the oscillators at the transmitter will be controlled
by reference to the NPL clocks (the article mentions time transfer between
the sites via GPS, which is typical). NPL finds out how its time is
doing from BIPM in Paris, which assembles a consensus view of the
time by taking measurements from national labs all over the world.

This is the usual arrangement. There is one or more caesium oscillators
at each Loran C transmitter, and in each GPS satellite, controlling the
output. Each of these is steered by reference to the collection of clocks
at a national lab somewhere, with these being steered in turn with reference
to BIPM. Owning a caesium clock isn't as big a deal as it once was. You
can buy one for your basement, if you want, for about the price of a car.

Dennis Ferguson

"Dennis Ferguson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]
> On 2007-03-30, Ivor Jones <[email protected]> wrote:

[snip]

> > Eh..? Atomic clocks at the antenna site..? Here's me
> > thinking the clocks were at NPL in Teddington, or have
> > I got it wrong all these years..?
>
> The people who know what time it is run the clocks at
> NPL. The caesium oscillators at the transmitter site will be
> used to control the transmitter frequency and time code
> transitions, but the time and frequency of the oscillators at
> the transmitter will be controlled by reference to the NPL
> clocks (the article mentions time transfer between the sites
> via GPS, which is typical). NPL finds out how its time is
> doing from BIPM in Paris, which assembles a consensus
> view of the time by taking measurements from national labs
> all over the world.

Ah, fair enough, thanks for the info.

> This is the usual arrangement. There is one or more
> caesium oscillators at each Loran C transmitter, and in each
> GPS satellite, controlling the output. Each of these is steered
> by reference to the collection of clocks at a national lab
> somewhere, with these being steered in turn with
> reference to BIPM. Owning a caesium clock isn't as big a
> deal as it once was. You can buy one for your basement,
> if you want, for about the price of a car.

Hmm, no thanks, I'll stick with the MSF signal, it's cheaper..!

Besides, I haven't got a basement <g>

Ivor

On 30 Mar, 17:51, "Lardboy" <[email protected]> wrote:
> There's a whole lot more aggro to it, but basically Carphone Warehouse
> have a scam involving their 0870 number which will never be answered,
> and I've exposed it.

Excellent video! I imagine it was quite difficult to co-ordinate all
that phoning so well done!

I suppose if you call from your mobile then it comes out of your
"inclusive minutes" (network dependent) but that's not really the
point...

I suspect CPW are not the only ones making a packet out of 0870 but I
was horrified when you explained that the numbers you were calling
weren't even connected! Have you emailed the video to Charles Dunstone
(I think his e-mail address is quite easy to find on Google).

Hope the story makes it onto Watchdog. I'll forward it to my friends.

Kurt

> There's a whole lot more aggro to it, but basically Carphone Warehouse
> have a scam involving their 0870 number which will never be answered,
> and I've exposed it.

Now published :-)

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/04..._incompetence/

On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 17:49:05 GMT, "The s-Bray" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>I think we all should report this to OFCOM

The Police, more likely. Obtaining money by deception!

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Alasdair.

On Apr 4, 11:59 am, Colin Wilson
<[email protected]> wrote:
> > There's a whole lot more aggro to it, but basically Carphone Warehouse
> > have a scam involving their 0870 number which will never be answered,
> > and I've exposed it.
>
> Now published :-)
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/04..._incompetence/

Sweet! Thanks dude (or whoever it was).

Still waiting for a reply from CPW....

> > Now published :-)
> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/04..._incompetence/
> Sweet! Thanks dude (or whoever it was).
> Still waiting for a reply from CPW....

'twas me - why not contact them over at The Reg to give them an
update ?

On Mar 31, 6:14 pm, Lurch <[email protected]> wrote:

> I understand theat replacement parts for a decent model will cost more
> than a cheaper version of the same device, but generally parts for
> Dysons are cheaper than new ones.

How did we get from CPW to cesium clocks and Dysons?? Anyway, the
local council tip sell Dysons for a fiver. And they have hundreds! I
needed a replacement plastic handle bit - Dyson wanted something like
£20 inc postage and package, so I bought a whole Dyson for a fiver,
and in fact it seemed to work perfectly! (although the tip cut the
plugs off and warn about not using them etc).
Although it apparently worked, I didn't want to breath other people's
carpet mites, so I just broke it into spares.
And probably saved a plastic tree along the way...

On 9 Apr 2007 15:50:53 -0700, "Lardboy" <[email protected]>
mused:

>On Mar 31, 6:14 pm, Lurch <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I understand theat replacement parts for a decent model will cost more
>> than a cheaper version of the same device, but generally parts for
>> Dysons are cheaper than new ones.
>
>How did we get from CPW to cesium clocks and Dysons??

That's the beauty of usenet, lots of varied subject matter to get
stuck into.

>Anyway, the
>local council tip sell Dysons for a fiver. And they have hundreds! I
>needed a replacement plastic handle bit - Dyson wanted something like
>£20 inc postage and package, so I bought a whole Dyson for a fiver,
>and in fact it seemed to work perfectly! (although the tip cut the
>plugs off and warn about not using them etc).
>Although it apparently worked, I didn't want to breath other people's
>carpet mites, so I just broke it into spares.

Hence why we do actually strip them down and clean everything. I'm
none too keen on breathing in other peoples ****e either so wouldn't
expect anyone else to.

>And probably saved a plastic tree along the way...

Plastic trees don't take too long to grow back, they're surprisingly
sustainable.
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Regards,
Stuart.