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  1. #1
    coopsweb
    Guest
    Am in the middle of an 18month contract with Orange - Went and upgraded my
    phone via ebay (was getting annoyed with my SPV M500's lack of memory) and
    bought myself a a shiney new M3100.

    Now according to those wonderful people at Orange CS, I'm not allowed to
    'upgrade' my old simcard to a 3G USIM as I didn't get my new phone from them
    specifically - the only way to do it is to buy a 3G capable phone from
    Orange. Has anyone managed to get a 3G sim from Orange without upgrading the
    phone through them aswell?

    Paul





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  2. #2
    David Hearn
    Guest

    Re: Orange 3G Sim

    coopsweb wrote:
    > Am in the middle of an 18month contract with Orange - Went and upgraded my
    > phone via ebay (was getting annoyed with my SPV M500's lack of memory) and
    > bought myself a a shiney new M3100.
    >
    > Now according to those wonderful people at Orange CS, I'm not allowed to
    > 'upgrade' my old simcard to a 3G USIM as I didn't get my new phone from them
    > specifically - the only way to do it is to buy a 3G capable phone from
    > Orange. Has anyone managed to get a 3G sim from Orange without upgrading the
    > phone through them aswell?
    >
    > Paul


    I've never understood that Orange refuse to enable 3G on accounts which
    obtained their 3G handsets elsewhere.

    I'm with T-Mobile and my SIM is 3G enabled, even though it's a 2.5G
    device. All I need to do it put it in a 3G device to use the 3G services.

    What's even more bizarre, is that if you did upgrade to a 3G device via
    Orange, but then later upgrade to a 2G device, the 3G service gets
    turned back off again! So, no upgrade to 2G device, sell that on ebay
    and still use the original 3G one....

    D



  3. #3
    Steve Henson
    Guest

    Re: Orange 3G Sim

    In article <[email protected]>,
    [email protected] says...
    > coopsweb wrote:
    > > Am in the middle of an 18month contract with Orange - Went and upgraded my
    > > phone via ebay (was getting annoyed with my SPV M500's lack of memory) and
    > > bought myself a a shiney new M3100.
    > >
    > > Now according to those wonderful people at Orange CS, I'm not allowed to
    > > 'upgrade' my old simcard to a 3G USIM as I didn't get my new phone from them
    > > specifically - the only way to do it is to buy a 3G capable phone from
    > > Orange. Has anyone managed to get a 3G sim from Orange without upgrading the
    > > phone through them aswell?
    > >
    > > Paul

    >
    > I've never understood that Orange refuse to enable 3G on accounts which
    > obtained their 3G handsets elsewhere.
    >
    > I'm with T-Mobile and my SIM is 3G enabled, even though it's a 2.5G
    > device. All I need to do it put it in a 3G device to use the 3G services.
    >
    > What's even more bizarre, is that if you did upgrade to a 3G device via
    > Orange, but then later upgrade to a 2G device, the 3G service gets
    > turned back off again! So, no upgrade to 2G device, sell that on ebay
    > and still use the original 3G one....
    >


    Equally odd is that you can apparently get a PAYG 3G Orange SIM easily
    enough.

    Steve.



  4. #4

    Re: Orange 3G Sim

    On 3 Apr, 16:50, Steve Henson <[email protected]> wrote:
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected] says...
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > > coopsweb wrote:
    > > > Am in the middle of an 18month contract with Orange - Went and upgraded my
    > > > phone via ebay (was getting annoyed with my SPV M500's lack of memory) and
    > > > bought myself a a shiney new M3100.

    >
    > > > Now according to those wonderful people at Orange CS, I'm not allowed to
    > > > 'upgrade' my old simcard to a 3G USIM as I didn't get my new phone from them
    > > > specifically - the only way to do it is to buy a 3G capable phone from
    > > > Orange. Has anyone managed to get a 3G sim from Orange without upgrading the
    > > > phone through them aswell?

    >
    > > > Paul

    >
    > > I've never understood that Orange refuse to enable 3G on accounts which
    > > obtained their 3G handsets elsewhere.

    >
    > > I'm with T-Mobile and my SIM is 3G enabled, even though it's a 2.5G
    > > device. All I need to do it put it in a 3G device to use the 3G services.

    >
    > > What's even more bizarre, is that if you did upgrade to a 3G device via
    > > Orange, but then later upgrade to a 2G device, the 3G service gets
    > > turned back off again! So, no upgrade to 2G device, sell that on ebay
    > > and still use the original 3G one....

    >
    > Equally odd is that you can apparently get a PAYG 3G Orange SIM easily
    > enough.
    >
    > Steve.- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    I too will be in a similar position when I upgrade my SPV M500 (I
    tried the M600 and M3100, but both were too slow, so I'm after an
    imate ultimate 9150 or xda atom life, neither of which will be offered
    by Orange).

    Question for Jon or other Orange person: say I lost my Orange 2g sim,
    would Orange then send me out a 3g sim as a replacement?

    Or would I have to wait until Orange have finally run out of stocks of
    2g sims?

    AFAIK the other mobile companies all now use usims (3g sims) as
    standard, whether or not the phone is 2g or 3g.

    Regards

    Simon Clark
    Business Telecoms




  5. #5
    Charlie Mitchell
    Guest

    Re: Orange 3G Sim

    >
    > I too will be in a similar position when I upgrade my SPV M500 (I
    > tried the M600 and M3100, but both were too slow, so I'm after an
    > imate ultimate 9150 or xda atom life, neither of which will be offered
    > by Orange).
    >
    > Question for Jon or other Orange person: say I lost my Orange 2g sim,
    > would Orange then send me out a 3g sim as a replacement?
    >
    > Or would I have to wait until Orange have finally run out of stocks of
    > 2g sims?
    >
    > AFAIK the other mobile companies all now use usims (3g sims) as
    > standard, whether or not the phone is 2g or 3g.
    >
    > Regards
    >
    > Simon Clark
    > Business Telecoms
    >


    If they're anything like vodafone, all vodafone sims are 3G,
    however, if you're phone is only 2.5g or 2g the sim cards
    are backwards compatible. If someone has a phone capable
    of 3G services, it's just a case of adding something to the
    network profile, obviously orange are being obnoxious and
    refusing to enable these services



  6. #6
    Nadeem
    Guest

    Re: Orange 3G Sim

    "David Hearn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > What's even more bizarre, is that if you did upgrade to a 3G device via
    > Orange, but then later upgrade to a 2G device, the 3G service gets turned
    > back off again! So, no upgrade to 2G device, sell that on ebay and still
    > use the original 3G one....
    >

    I know - I got caught out by that one - it was really frustrating as they
    don't tell you!!





  7. #7
    Jon
    Guest

    Re: Orange 3G Sim

    [email protected] declared for all the world to hear...
    > Now according to those wonderful people at Orange CS, I'm not allowed to
    > 'upgrade' my old simcard to a 3G USIM as I didn't get my new phone from them
    > specifically - the only way to do it is to buy a 3G capable phone from
    > Orange. Has anyone managed to get a 3G sim from Orange without upgrading the
    > phone through them aswell?


    No. It's not possible.
    --
    Regards
    Jon



  8. #8
    Jon
    Guest

    Re: Orange 3G Sim

    [email protected] declared for all the world to hear...
    > Question for Jon or other Orange person: say I lost my Orange 2g sim,
    > would Orange then send me out a 3g sim as a replacement?


    No, you would get a SIM suitable for the device registered to your
    account, I.e. another 2G one.

    > Or would I have to wait until Orange have finally run out of stocks of
    > 2g sims?


    That could be some time!
    --
    Regards
    Jon



  9. #9
    David Hearn
    Guest

    Re: Orange 3G Sim

    Steve Henson wrote:
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > [email protected] says...
    >> coopsweb wrote:
    >>> Am in the middle of an 18month contract with Orange - Went and upgraded my
    >>> phone via ebay (was getting annoyed with my SPV M500's lack of memory) and
    >>> bought myself a a shiney new M3100.
    >>>
    >>> Now according to those wonderful people at Orange CS, I'm not allowed to
    >>> 'upgrade' my old simcard to a 3G USIM as I didn't get my new phone from them
    >>> specifically - the only way to do it is to buy a 3G capable phone from
    >>> Orange. Has anyone managed to get a 3G sim from Orange without upgrading the
    >>> phone through them aswell?
    >>>
    >>> Paul

    >> I've never understood that Orange refuse to enable 3G on accounts which
    >> obtained their 3G handsets elsewhere.
    >>
    >> I'm with T-Mobile and my SIM is 3G enabled, even though it's a 2.5G
    >> device. All I need to do it put it in a 3G device to use the 3G services.
    >>
    >> What's even more bizarre, is that if you did upgrade to a 3G device via
    >> Orange, but then later upgrade to a 2G device, the 3G service gets
    >> turned back off again! So, no upgrade to 2G device, sell that on ebay
    >> and still use the original 3G one....
    >>

    >
    > Equally odd is that you can apparently get a PAYG 3G Orange SIM easily
    > enough.


    True, but I believe there's some restriction about porting numbers to
    them (to avoid ex-contract people downgrading to PAYG to get 3G). Also,
    if you wanted to convert it to a contract, there were some
    restrictions/limitations (eg. if you don't go with a 3G device, 3G
    support gets turned off etc).

    It's all a bit vague, but certainly bizarre behaviour which makes me
    unlikely to return to Orange in the near future.

    D



  10. #10
    David Hearn
    Guest

    Re: Orange 3G Sim

    Jon wrote:
    > [email protected] declared for all the world to hear...
    >> Question for Jon or other Orange person: say I lost my Orange 2g sim,
    >> would Orange then send me out a 3g sim as a replacement?

    >
    > No, you would get a SIM suitable for the device registered to your
    > account, I.e. another 2G one.


    And the device registered to your account is actually the last handset
    the Orange supplied you with, and cannot be possibly updated if you
    sourced a handset elsewhere?

    D



  11. #11
    ACDeag
    Guest

    Re: Orange 3G Sim

    After serious thinking coopsweb wrote :
    > Am in the middle of an 18month contract with Orange - Went and upgraded my
    > phone via ebay (was getting annoyed with my SPV M500's lack of memory) and
    > bought myself a a shiney new M3100.
    >
    > Now according to those wonderful people at Orange CS, I'm not allowed to
    > 'upgrade' my old simcard to a 3G USIM as I didn't get my new phone from them
    > specifically - the only way to do it is to buy a 3G capable phone from
    > Orange. Has anyone managed to get a 3G sim from Orange without upgrading the
    > phone through them aswell?
    >
    > Paul


    Call retentions and say you will go to Vodafone or O2 on a SIM only
    deal. In fact I think everyone else gives you a 3G enabled SIM card
    automatically.





  12. #12
    Jon
    Guest

    Re: Orange 3G Sim

    [email protected] declared for all the world to hear...
    > Jon wrote:
    > > [email protected] declared for all the world to hear...
    > >> Question for Jon or other Orange person: say I lost my Orange 2g sim,
    > >> would Orange then send me out a 3g sim as a replacement?

    > >
    > > No, you would get a SIM suitable for the device registered to your
    > > account, I.e. another 2G one.

    >
    > And the device registered to your account is actually the last handset
    > the Orange supplied you with, and cannot be possibly updated if you
    > sourced a handset elsewhere?


    That is correct.
    --
    Regards
    Jon



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