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  1. #1
    Dave T
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    Looks to be a pretty smart piece of kit , the web browsing etc looks great ,
    shame its 4gb or 8gb , would of like a 30gb but its flash memory and not
    a harddrive ....not a bad thing , i guess these will be selling on Ebay for
    some serious dosh , i bet it gives the blackberry / nokia a serious run for
    there money , at say 399.99 off contract (sure it will be more) once the
    dust has setteled and subject to many wow's from most of its users , i can't
    see many reason why people wont swop , even its size is pretty good , looks
    like apple really have a good chance at been the new mobile phone kings.






    See More: Does anyone have the UK RRP for the new iphone?




  2. #2
    Bob Horsey
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    Re: Does anyone have the UK RRP for the new iphone?


    "Dave T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Looks to be a pretty smart piece of kit , the web browsing etc looks great

    ,
    > shame its 4gb or 8gb , would of like a 30gb but its flash memory and

    not
    > a harddrive ....not a bad thing , i guess these will be selling on Ebay

    for
    > some serious dosh , i bet it gives the blackberry / nokia a serious run

    for
    > there money , at say 399.99 off contract (sure it will be more) once the
    > dust has setteled and subject to many wow's from most of its users , i

    can't
    > see many reason why people wont swop , even its size is pretty good ,

    looks
    > like apple really have a good chance at been the new mobile phone kings.
    >
    > what phone is it
    >






  3. #3
    Phil
    Guest

    Re: Does anyone have the UK RRP for the new iphone?

    "Dave T" <[email protected]> writes:

    > Looks to be a pretty smart piece of kit , the web browsing etc looks great ,
    > shame its 4gb or 8gb , would of like a 30gb but its flash memory and not
    > a harddrive ....not a bad thing , i guess these will be selling on Ebay for
    > some serious dosh , i bet it gives the blackberry / nokia a serious run for
    > there money , at say 399.99 off contract (sure it will be more) once the
    > dust has setteled and subject to many wow's from most of its users , i can't
    > see many reason why people wont swop , even its size is pretty good , looks
    > like apple really have a good chance at been the new mobile phone kings.
    >

    Why is it so great, its not even 3G?

    Phil

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  4. #4
    David Hearn
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    Re: Does anyone have the UK RRP for the new iphone?

    Dave T wrote:
    > Looks to be a pretty smart piece of kit , the web browsing etc looks great ,
    > shame its 4gb or 8gb , would of like a 30gb but its flash memory and not
    > a harddrive ....not a bad thing , i guess these will be selling on Ebay for
    > some serious dosh , i bet it gives the blackberry / nokia a serious run for
    > there money , at say 399.99 off contract (sure it will be more) once the
    > dust has setteled and subject to many wow's from most of its users , i can't
    > see many reason why people wont swop , even its size is pretty good , looks
    > like apple really have a good chance at been the new mobile phone kings.


    As it's currently a US only release (and with a 2 year contract), there
    isn't a UK RRP for the iPhone. Once it's released into Europe then we
    might have an idea, but based on Apple's previous prices, assume a 1.5x
    divider on the US price ($300 = £200). Therefore the $500 price tag
    becomes approx £330. I guess that excludes sales taxes too, so assume
    close to £400 for the device if/when it comes to the UK.

    And there's no way it'll give Blackberry a run for their money -
    completely different markets. Blackberry tends to be a corporate device
    for email etc - without a keyboard the iPhone didn't fit into this
    market, especially considering the device cost.

    You've got to remember the size of the markets. Majority of people do
    not go for smartphone/PDA type devices. They're too expensive, too
    functional and usually, too bulky. Compare the iPhone to the Razr, Slvr
    etc and you'll see a significant size/thickness difference. The market
    the iPhone is going into could be classed as niche - certainly isn't the
    largest part. And you'll probably find that the smartphone/PDA market's
    largest customers are businesses - and whatever the cool factor may be -
    a company's purchasing department aren't likely to pick a $500 iPhone
    (basically a glorified mp3/video device) over a $200 phone with keyboard
    and syncs with Blackberry/Exchange.

    The average phone user (> 50% of users?) will only:
    1.) Make calls
    2.) Send texts
    3.) Take pictures
    and possibly
    4.) Send those pictures via MMS

    The iPhone doesn't do MMS, so that's a limiting factor. See how popular
    2G devices still are - things like 3G video calls haven't really taken
    off. There's plenty of phones out there which can play MP3s, and there
    are plenty of iPods out there already. I can't see a huge number (there
    will be many though) who will ditch their £200 iPod and spend another
    £400 on a phone to replace it.

    It's going to sell - but I think it'll always be a niche device - just
    look at the number of £30-£50 PAYG handsets are sold - cheap basic
    handsets make up a significant part of the market.

    And finally, don't forget the Apple have stated their device will never
    be subsidised - therefore unlike the 'free' Nokia N95 and other devices
    out there, it'll always appear a 'premium' device (which is what Apple
    want). £0 for a N95 which can play mp3s, videos, surf web (over 3G and
    Wifi), GPS built in etc - or £400 for a similar phone? I know which I'd
    pick.

    D



  5. #5
    Steve Dulieu
    Guest

    Re: Does anyone have the UK RRP for the new iphone?


    "David Hearn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Dave T wrote:
    >> Looks to be a pretty smart piece of kit , the web browsing etc looks
    >> great , shame its 4gb or 8gb , would of like a 30gb but its flash
    >> memory and not a harddrive ....not a bad thing , i guess these will be
    >> selling on Ebay for some serious dosh , i bet it gives the blackberry /
    >> nokia a serious run for there money , at say 399.99 off contract (sure it
    >> will be more) once the dust has setteled and subject to many wow's from
    >> most of its users , i can't see many reason why people wont swop , even
    >> its size is pretty good , looks like apple really have a good chance at
    >> been the new mobile phone kings.

    >
    > As it's currently a US only release (and with a 2 year contract), there
    > isn't a UK RRP for the iPhone. Once it's released into Europe then we
    > might have an idea, but based on Apple's previous prices, assume a 1.5x
    > divider on the US price ($300 = £200). Therefore the $500 price tag
    > becomes approx £330. I guess that excludes sales taxes too, so assume
    > close to £400 for the device if/when it comes to the UK.
    >
    > And there's no way it'll give Blackberry a run for their money -
    > completely different markets. Blackberry tends to be a corporate device
    > for email etc - without a keyboard the iPhone didn't fit into this market,
    > especially considering the device cost.
    >
    > You've got to remember the size of the markets. Majority of people do not
    > go for smartphone/PDA type devices. They're too expensive, too functional
    > and usually, too bulky. Compare the iPhone to the Razr, Slvr etc and
    > you'll see a significant size/thickness difference. The market the iPhone
    > is going into could be classed as niche - certainly isn't the largest
    > part. And you'll probably find that the smartphone/PDA market's largest
    > customers are businesses - and whatever the cool factor may be - a
    > company's purchasing department aren't likely to pick a $500 iPhone
    > (basically a glorified mp3/video device) over a $200 phone with keyboard
    > and syncs with Blackberry/Exchange.
    >
    > The average phone user (> 50% of users?) will only:
    > 1.) Make calls
    > 2.) Send texts
    > 3.) Take pictures
    > and possibly
    > 4.) Send those pictures via MMS
    >
    > The iPhone doesn't do MMS, so that's a limiting factor. See how popular
    > 2G devices still are - things like 3G video calls haven't really taken
    > off. There's plenty of phones out there which can play MP3s, and there
    > are plenty of iPods out there already. I can't see a huge number (there
    > will be many though) who will ditch their £200 iPod and spend another £400
    > on a phone to replace it.
    >
    > It's going to sell - but I think it'll always be a niche device - just
    > look at the number of £30-£50 PAYG handsets are sold - cheap basic
    > handsets make up a significant part of the market.
    >
    > And finally, don't forget the Apple have stated their device will never be
    > subsidised - therefore unlike the 'free' Nokia N95 and other devices out
    > there, it'll always appear a 'premium' device (which is what Apple want).
    > £0 for a N95 which can play mp3s, videos, surf web (over 3G and Wifi), GPS
    > built in etc - or £400 for a similar phone? I know which I'd pick.
    >

    One other small problem, AFAIU the iphone doesn't have a SIM card or a slot
    to put one in. The only way it'll work in the UK is on an American AT&T
    contract roaming. This review...
    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1182...oo_hs&ru=yahoo
    ....states that it can't use SIM cards, which would mean it cannot be used on
    any UK contract or PAYG.
    --
    Cheers, Steve.
    Change jealous to sad to reply.




  6. #6
    David Hearn
    Guest

    Re: Does anyone have the UK RRP for the new iphone?

    Steve Dulieu wrote:
    >
    > "David Hearn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >> Dave T wrote:
    >>> Looks to be a pretty smart piece of kit , the web browsing etc looks
    >>> great , shame its 4gb or 8gb , would of like a 30gb but its flash
    >>> memory and not a harddrive ....not a bad thing , i guess these will
    >>> be selling on Ebay for some serious dosh , i bet it gives the
    >>> blackberry / nokia a serious run for there money , at say 399.99 off
    >>> contract (sure it will be more) once the dust has setteled and
    >>> subject to many wow's from most of its users , i can't see many
    >>> reason why people wont swop , even its size is pretty good , looks
    >>> like apple really have a good chance at been the new mobile phone kings.

    >>
    >> As it's currently a US only release (and with a 2 year contract),
    >> there isn't a UK RRP for the iPhone. Once it's released into Europe
    >> then we might have an idea, but based on Apple's previous prices,
    >> assume a 1.5x divider on the US price ($300 = £200). Therefore the
    >> $500 price tag becomes approx £330. I guess that excludes sales taxes
    >> too, so assume close to £400 for the device if/when it comes to the UK.
    >>
    >> And there's no way it'll give Blackberry a run for their money -
    >> completely different markets. Blackberry tends to be a corporate
    >> device for email etc - without a keyboard the iPhone didn't fit into
    >> this market, especially considering the device cost.
    >>
    >> You've got to remember the size of the markets. Majority of people do
    >> not go for smartphone/PDA type devices. They're too expensive, too
    >> functional and usually, too bulky. Compare the iPhone to the Razr,
    >> Slvr etc and you'll see a significant size/thickness difference. The
    >> market the iPhone is going into could be classed as niche - certainly
    >> isn't the largest part. And you'll probably find that the
    >> smartphone/PDA market's largest customers are businesses - and
    >> whatever the cool factor may be - a company's purchasing department
    >> aren't likely to pick a $500 iPhone (basically a glorified mp3/video
    >> device) over a $200 phone with keyboard and syncs with
    >> Blackberry/Exchange.
    >>
    >> The average phone user (> 50% of users?) will only:
    >> 1.) Make calls
    >> 2.) Send texts
    >> 3.) Take pictures
    >> and possibly
    >> 4.) Send those pictures via MMS
    >>
    >> The iPhone doesn't do MMS, so that's a limiting factor. See how
    >> popular 2G devices still are - things like 3G video calls haven't
    >> really taken off. There's plenty of phones out there which can play
    >> MP3s, and there are plenty of iPods out there already. I can't see a
    >> huge number (there will be many though) who will ditch their £200 iPod
    >> and spend another £400 on a phone to replace it.
    >>
    >> It's going to sell - but I think it'll always be a niche device - just
    >> look at the number of £30-£50 PAYG handsets are sold - cheap basic
    >> handsets make up a significant part of the market.
    >>
    >> And finally, don't forget the Apple have stated their device will
    >> never be subsidised - therefore unlike the 'free' Nokia N95 and other
    >> devices out there, it'll always appear a 'premium' device (which is
    >> what Apple want). £0 for a N95 which can play mp3s, videos, surf web
    >> (over 3G and Wifi), GPS built in etc - or £400 for a similar phone? I
    >> know which I'd pick.
    >>

    > One other small problem, AFAIU the iphone doesn't have a SIM card or a
    > slot to put one in. The only way it'll work in the UK is on an American
    > AT&T contract roaming. This review...
    > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1182...oo_hs&ru=yahoo
    >
    > ...states that it can't use SIM cards, which would mean it cannot be
    > used on any UK contract or PAYG.


    I'd heard that but also heard that it did have a SIM slot - so wanted to
    wait until it was properly released (6pm tonight US time isn't it?) to
    see what the majority of people said about the SIM issue.

    If this is the case, then it certainly stops them from being sold around
    the world on eBay to be used with a local SIM.

    D



  7. #7
    David Hearn
    Guest

    Re: Does anyone have the UK RRP for the new iphone?

    David Hearn wrote:
    > Steve Dulieu wrote:
    >>
    >> "David Hearn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]
    >>> Dave T wrote:
    >>>> Looks to be a pretty smart piece of kit , the web browsing etc looks
    >>>> great , shame its 4gb or 8gb , would of like a 30gb but its flash
    >>>> memory and not a harddrive ....not a bad thing , i guess these will
    >>>> be selling on Ebay for some serious dosh , i bet it gives the
    >>>> blackberry / nokia a serious run for there money , at say 399.99 off
    >>>> contract (sure it will be more) once the dust has setteled and
    >>>> subject to many wow's from most of its users , i can't see many
    >>>> reason why people wont swop , even its size is pretty good , looks
    >>>> like apple really have a good chance at been the new mobile phone
    >>>> kings.
    >>>
    >>> As it's currently a US only release (and with a 2 year contract),
    >>> there isn't a UK RRP for the iPhone. Once it's released into Europe
    >>> then we might have an idea, but based on Apple's previous prices,
    >>> assume a 1.5x divider on the US price ($300 = £200). Therefore the
    >>> $500 price tag becomes approx £330. I guess that excludes sales
    >>> taxes too, so assume close to £400 for the device if/when it comes to
    >>> the UK.
    >>>
    >>> And there's no way it'll give Blackberry a run for their money -
    >>> completely different markets. Blackberry tends to be a corporate
    >>> device for email etc - without a keyboard the iPhone didn't fit into
    >>> this market, especially considering the device cost.
    >>>
    >>> You've got to remember the size of the markets. Majority of people
    >>> do not go for smartphone/PDA type devices. They're too expensive,
    >>> too functional and usually, too bulky. Compare the iPhone to the
    >>> Razr, Slvr etc and you'll see a significant size/thickness
    >>> difference. The market the iPhone is going into could be classed as
    >>> niche - certainly isn't the largest part. And you'll probably find
    >>> that the smartphone/PDA market's largest customers are businesses -
    >>> and whatever the cool factor may be - a company's purchasing
    >>> department aren't likely to pick a $500 iPhone (basically a glorified
    >>> mp3/video device) over a $200 phone with keyboard and syncs with
    >>> Blackberry/Exchange.
    >>>
    >>> The average phone user (> 50% of users?) will only:
    >>> 1.) Make calls
    >>> 2.) Send texts
    >>> 3.) Take pictures
    >>> and possibly
    >>> 4.) Send those pictures via MMS
    >>>
    >>> The iPhone doesn't do MMS, so that's a limiting factor. See how
    >>> popular 2G devices still are - things like 3G video calls haven't
    >>> really taken off. There's plenty of phones out there which can play
    >>> MP3s, and there are plenty of iPods out there already. I can't see a
    >>> huge number (there will be many though) who will ditch their £200
    >>> iPod and spend another £400 on a phone to replace it.
    >>>
    >>> It's going to sell - but I think it'll always be a niche device -
    >>> just look at the number of £30-£50 PAYG handsets are sold - cheap
    >>> basic handsets make up a significant part of the market.
    >>>
    >>> And finally, don't forget the Apple have stated their device will
    >>> never be subsidised - therefore unlike the 'free' Nokia N95 and other
    >>> devices out there, it'll always appear a 'premium' device (which is
    >>> what Apple want). £0 for a N95 which can play mp3s, videos, surf web
    >>> (over 3G and Wifi), GPS built in etc - or £400 for a similar phone?
    >>> I know which I'd pick.
    >>>

    >> One other small problem, AFAIU the iphone doesn't have a SIM card or a
    >> slot to put one in. The only way it'll work in the UK is on an
    >> American AT&T contract roaming. This review...
    >> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1182...oo_hs&ru=yahoo
    >>
    >> ...states that it can't use SIM cards, which would mean it cannot be
    >> used on any UK contract or PAYG.

    >
    > I'd heard that but also heard that it did have a SIM slot - so wanted to
    > wait until it was properly released (6pm tonight US time isn't it?) to
    > see what the majority of people said about the SIM issue.
    >
    > If this is the case, then it certainly stops them from being sold around
    > the world on eBay to be used with a local SIM.
    >
    > D


    Looks like it does have a SIM slot:

    http://www.thinksecret.com.nyud.net:.../iphone05.html

    D



  8. #8
    the dog from that film you saw
    Guest

    Re: Does anyone have the UK RRP for the new iphone?


    "Dave T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > Looks to be a pretty smart piece of kit , the web browsing etc looks great
    > , shame its 4gb or 8gb , would of like a 30gb but its flash memory and
    > not a harddrive ....not a bad thing , i guess these will be selling on
    > Ebay for some serious dosh , i bet it gives the blackberry / nokia a
    > serious run for there money , at say 399.99 off contract (sure it will be
    > more) once the dust has setteled and subject to many wow's from most of
    > its users , i can't see many reason why people wont swop , even its size
    > is pretty good , looks like apple really have a good chance at been the
    > new mobile phone kings.
    >
    >



    if you think a 2 megapixel camera is cutting edge maybe - and if you think a
    non 3g capable phone is worth buying over a 'free' 3g one.
    plus if you think touch screens are better than real buttons with real
    tactile feedback.



    --
    Gareth.

    That fly... is your magic wand.
    http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/





  9. #9
    the dog from that film you saw
    Guest

    Re: Does anyone have the UK RRP for the new iphone?


    "David Hearn" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]


    > And finally, don't forget the Apple have stated their device will never be
    > subsidised - therefore unlike the 'free' Nokia N95 and other devices out
    > there, it'll always appear a 'premium' device (which is what Apple want).
    > £0 for a N95 which can play mp3s, videos, surf web (over 3G and Wifi), GPS
    > built in etc - or £400 for a similar phone? I know which I'd pick.





    but....
    but....
    the nokia doesnt have a pretty apple logo on it!
    that must be worth at least £200 in itself.



    --
    Gareth.

    That fly... is your magic wand.
    http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/





  10. #10
    THE MISTER
    Guest

    Re: Does anyone have the UK RRP for the new iphone?A new 3G (European) version of the iPhone will be launched Monday in the UK


    "the dog from that film you saw" <[email protected]> wrote
    in message news:[email protected]
    >
    > "Dave T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]
    >> Looks to be a pretty smart piece of kit , the web browsing etc looks
    >> great , shame its 4gb or 8gb , would of like a 30gb but its flash
    >> memory and not a harddrive ....not a bad thing , i guess these will be
    >> selling on Ebay for some serious dosh , i bet it gives the blackberry /
    >> nokia a serious run for there money , at say 399.99 off contract (sure it
    >> will be more) once the dust has setteled and subject to many wow's from
    >> most of its users , i can't see many reason why people wont swop , even
    >> its size is pretty good , looks like apple really have a good chance at
    >> been the new mobile phone kings.
    >>
    >>

    >
    >
    > if you think a 2 megapixel camera is cutting edge maybe - and if you think
    > a non 3g capable phone is worth buying over a 'free' 3g one.
    > plus if you think touch screens are better than real buttons with real
    > tactile feedback.


    A new 3G (European) version of the iPhone will be launched Monday in the UK
    by Apple - in a join promotion with Vodafone, T-Mobile of Germany, and
    Carphone Warehouse. It should answer the disappointment with the US version
    of the iPhone which has been widely slammed for its poor performance as a
    phone.


    http://www.newswireless.net/index.cfm/article/3466






  11. #11
    Andy Burns
    Guest

    Re: Does anyone have the UK RRP for the new iphone?

    On 29/06/2007 15:08, Steve Dulieu wrote:

    > One other small problem, AFAIU the iphone doesn't have a SIM card or a
    > slot to put one in.


    http://thinksecret.com/archives/ipho.../iphone08.html



  12. #12
    David Hearn
    Guest

    Re: Does anyone have the UK RRP for the new iphone?A new 3G (European)version of the iPhone will be launched Monday in the UK

    THE MISTER wrote:
    > "the dog from that film you saw" <[email protected]> wrote
    > in message news:[email protected]
    >> "Dave T" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]
    >>> Looks to be a pretty smart piece of kit , the web browsing etc looks
    >>> great , shame its 4gb or 8gb , would of like a 30gb but its flash
    >>> memory and not a harddrive ....not a bad thing , i guess these will be
    >>> selling on Ebay for some serious dosh , i bet it gives the blackberry /
    >>> nokia a serious run for there money , at say 399.99 off contract (sure it
    >>> will be more) once the dust has setteled and subject to many wow's from
    >>> most of its users , i can't see many reason why people wont swop , even
    >>> its size is pretty good , looks like apple really have a good chance at
    >>> been the new mobile phone kings.
    >>>
    >>>

    >>
    >> if you think a 2 megapixel camera is cutting edge maybe - and if you think
    >> a non 3g capable phone is worth buying over a 'free' 3g one.
    >> plus if you think touch screens are better than real buttons with real
    >> tactile feedback.

    >
    > A new 3G (European) version of the iPhone will be launched Monday in the UK
    > by Apple - in a join promotion with Vodafone, T-Mobile of Germany, and
    > Carphone Warehouse. It should answer the disappointment with the US version
    > of the iPhone which has been widely slammed for its poor performance as a
    > phone.
    >
    >
    > http://www.newswireless.net/index.cfm/article/3466


    "Shipment date is still unknown, but "on course" for the year-end date
    predicted last October by Apple CEO Steve Jobs."

    Funny how these days the 'launch' is 6 months before shipment. In my
    opinion, the launch is the day it becomes available, not the day that
    the marketing starts.

    D



  13. #13
    andersonoscar5
    Guest

    Re: Does anyone have the UK RRP for the new iphone?


    the iPhone looks amazing, and it probably feels amazing in the palm of
    your hand, too. It's sleek, curvy, shiny, and sexy,with on-screen icons
    and buttons that just ooze and drip class.


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