UK petrol Prices (Worth Reading not sub related:-)

"the dog from that film you saw"
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[snip]

> it's a case of bringing the money in.
> if there was a roadsweeper so great that the council
> saved 5 million of their annual budget i'm sure they
> would pay him a million - if he could prove it.

There lies the rub. As part of my job I do some work with the claims
handler who in turn deals with the company insurers. I'm sure that between
us, he and I have saved the company tens of thousands of pounds if not
more in (say) the last 12 months, but do we get recognised for it..? No,
we get about £7.25/hr.

I could do with a million or two, anybody know any footballers with some
to spare..?!

Ivor

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"Colin Wilson" <[email protected]>
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> Simple maths on simple figures for income:
>
> £10,000 - all spent on day to day living - basically all taxed

Bull**** - someone earning £10,000 get at least half of it free of
income tax/NI. If they get it through benefits they'd probably get it
all free of income tax.

When they spend it, they'll spend a good proportion of it on tax free
things, like rent and most foods.

> £100,000 - spends roughly the same on day to day living - leaving
> £90,000 comparably "spare", paying tax on only the interest of same.

Er, they'll pay income tax on about £95,000 of the £100k.

> Any expenditure out of that £90,000 is essentially a lifestyle
choice.

So what? When they spend it they are likely to pay tax again, ie VAT
and excise duties.

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Andy

"Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > > A correction is called for here. Nobody *earns* £1M -
> > > they may *get paid* £1M but they sure as hell don't
> > > *earn* it.
> >
> > what about a footballer who generates 20 million worth of
> > revenue for his team that it would otherwise not receive?
>
> He still doesn't *earn* that kind of money. Football is a good
example of
> marketing that has spiralled totally out of control. Why is a
footballer
> so special..? What does he do that (say) a vet or even a roadsweeper
> doesn't..? Which is of more use at the end of the day..?

People pay silly money to go to watch football matches, and to watch
them on telly. The footballers are paid from that. It's simple
supply and demand. It's how capitalism works, if you don't like it
start a revolution.

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Andy

"Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "the dog from that film you saw"
> <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> [snip]
>
>> it's a case of bringing the money in.
>> if there was a roadsweeper so great that the council
>> saved 5 million of their annual budget i'm sure they
>> would pay him a million - if he could prove it.
>
> There lies the rub. As part of my job I do some work with the claims
> handler who in turn deals with the company insurers. I'm sure that between
> us, he and I have saved the company tens of thousands of pounds if not
> more in (say) the last 12 months, but do we get recognised for it..? No,
> we get about £7.25/hr.



the thing is, you have to be better than anyone else - not as good as!
that's why the football teams dont save a fortune by employing you and I to
do the football at 20 grand a year but instead pay someone else
exponentially more.


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Gareth.

That fly... is your magic wand.
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Yawn, yawn... this has been suggested many times before and it does
NOT work ! Quite simply history proved that most people don't even
bother to look at the prices, they just fill up wherever it's
convenient, whip up their plastic and think no more of it !
E.g. today I went out of my way to use up Tesco's 5p off voucher, but
although I saved £3.25, taking in account the extra mileage and time
I am unlikely to do it again.

The suggestion that the price can be brought down to 69p is laughable,
the tax and VAT is that much alone !

Also Esso and BP supply most of the petrol on the spot market where
the supermarkets buy it. There is hardly any profit in retailing
anyway (which is why they sell ciggies, milk etc.) so BP and Esso
could easily let their stations go to other brands without loosing
the stranglehold on the market.

At the moment we are sheltered by the weak $, (£=2.04$) otherwise we
would be easily over £1 a litre already.

Regards,
Martin

On 29/7/07 12:34, Chuckles The Scary Clown wrote:
> "Andy Burns" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> On 29/07/2007 10:44, MagicUK wrote:
>>
>> [snip ranting slab of text]
>>
>>> PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE 69p a LITRE RANGE.
>> The 69p/litre breaks down as roughly
>> (11p/litre retail price + 47p duty) + 10p vat
>>
>> On Friday crude oil was $77/barrel (of 159 litres)
>> pound/dollar was 0.49, so raw material is 23p/litre
>>
>> In effect you expect the crude to be bought, refined, delivered and then
>> retailed at less than half the current raw material price?
>
> Yes, the Govt keep very quiet about how much they cream off of every single
> litre sold.
>

Not really true. People have been complaining for years because they
take 90% in tax.

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David Kennedy

http://www.anindianinexile.com

On 29/7/07 14:07, John wrote:
>
> You sound extremely jealous of people that have gone out and got a decent
> job, or set up companies to earn a good living.
>
>

Try to figure out how you sound John....

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David Kennedy

http://www.anindianinexile.com

On 30/07/2007 02:45, Martin² wrote:

> The suggestion that the price can be brought down to 69p is laughable,

I agree with that.

> the tax and VAT is that much alone !

No it isn't, taking the current price/litre for ULSP (outside london) of
94p, it breaks down as follows

33p product (of which ~23p is crude oil)
47p duty
6p vat on product
8p vat on duty

so the tax take at point of sale is 61p or 65%.

> At the moment we are sheltered by the weak $, (£=2.04$) otherwise we
> would be easily over £1 a litre already.

Yep true enough.

"Martin²" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Yawn, yawn... this has been suggested many times before and it does
> NOT work ! Quite simply history proved that most people don't even
> bother to look at the prices, they just fill up wherever it's
> convenient, whip up their plastic and think no more of it !
> E.g. today I went out of my way to use up Tesco's 5p off voucher, but
> although I saved £3.25, taking in account the extra mileage and time
> I am unlikely to do it again.
>
> The suggestion that the price can be brought down to 69p is laughable,
> the tax and VAT is that much alone !
>
> Also Esso and BP supply most of the petrol on the spot market where
> the supermarkets buy it. There is hardly any profit in retailing
> anyway (which is why they sell ciggies, milk etc.) so BP and Esso
> could easily let their stations go to other brands without loosing
> the stranglehold on the market.
>
> At the moment we are sheltered by the weak $, (£=2.04$) otherwise we
> would be easily over £1 a litre already.

So if the objective is to reduce your costs, you have two possibilities:

a) make more efficient use of the fuel, i.e. by sharing transport

b) reduce your need for travel.

In the short term, both of these are non-starters. In the long term, fuel
costs will rise, so transport costs will become an increasing proportion of
all everyday costs. Alternative fuels (such as hydrogen) derived from
renewable sources may become competitive.

But I suspect that most people will have to look for greater efficiency and
a reduction in the need to travel ...



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In message [email protected],
dave @ stejonda <no$spam!delete&abuse%[email protected]> Proclaimed
from the tallest tower:

> In message <[email protected]>, MagicUK
> <[email protected]> writes
>> We are hitting 95p a litre in some areas now
>
> in SE London 95p/l is cheap!

This is an OLD email. I saw it doing the rounds at least 6 months ago...

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Chris.
(Remove Elvis's shoes to email me)

ok well hope i havnt annoyed anyone, i thought id just pass on what a friend
emailed me!
"Graham" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> "Martin²" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Yawn, yawn... this has been suggested many times before and it does
>> NOT work ! Quite simply history proved that most people don't even
>> bother to look at the prices, they just fill up wherever it's
>> convenient, whip up their plastic and think no more of it !
>> E.g. today I went out of my way to use up Tesco's 5p off voucher, but
>> although I saved £3.25, taking in account the extra mileage and time
>> I am unlikely to do it again.
>>
>> The suggestion that the price can be brought down to 69p is laughable,
>> the tax and VAT is that much alone !
>>
>> Also Esso and BP supply most of the petrol on the spot market where
>> the supermarkets buy it. There is hardly any profit in retailing
>> anyway (which is why they sell ciggies, milk etc.) so BP and Esso
>> could easily let their stations go to other brands without loosing
>> the stranglehold on the market.
>>
>> At the moment we are sheltered by the weak $, (£=2.04$) otherwise we
>> would be easily over £1 a litre already.
>
> So if the objective is to reduce your costs, you have two possibilities:
>
> a) make more efficient use of the fuel, i.e. by sharing transport
>
> b) reduce your need for travel.
>
> In the short term, both of these are non-starters. In the long term, fuel
> costs will rise, so transport costs will become an increasing proportion
> of all everyday costs. Alternative fuels (such as hydrogen) derived from
> renewable sources may become competitive.
>
> But I suspect that most people will have to look for greater efficiency
> and a reduction in the need to travel ...
>
>
>
> --
> Graham J
>
>

will do mate! lol
"the dog from that film you saw" <[email protected]> wrote
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>
> "MagicUK" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> ok well hope i havnt annoyed anyone, i thought id just pass on what a
>> friend emailed me!
>
>
>
> even though it had sod all to do with mobile phones?
>
> if you get any good bread recipes or share tips be sure to let us know.
>
>
>
> --
> Gareth.
>
> That fly... is your magic wand.
> http://www.last.fm/user/dsbmusic/
>