I think I've been conned! HELP Please.

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 08:51:22 UTC, "Mrcheerful" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> S0N1C wrote:
> > I have just paid £3.49 for I believed would be an unlock code for my
> > Nokia 5310 to unlockwarehouse.co.uk.
> >
> > The reply I've received is below.
> >
> > This is clearly not what I paid for. The opening line quoted below is
> > misleading to say the least.
> >
> > Do I have any recourse in this?
> >
>
> not only have you lost money, you have also given them your imei number. go
> to any market and there will be someone unlocking phones while you wait,
> usually for less than a fiver

Or go to dealextreme.com and get an unlocking shim for less than a fiver
including postage. And you can move it to another phone eventually...

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Blah wrote:
> Rob wrote:
>> [email protected] wrote:
>> | On 23 Oct, 11:23, Yuda <[email protected]> wrote:
>> || Peter Crosland wrote:
>> ||
>> ||| Paypal will refund if you ask. This is a con as you have discovered.
>> ||
>> ||| Peter Crosland
>> ||
>> || How is it a con? The guy got exactly what he was offered before any
>> || money was taken. He agreed to it.
>> |
>> | I remember once hearing a story (urban myth perhaps) about an advert
>> | in the paper:
>> | "No more BT phone bills. Send £5 for information.".
>> |
>> | You send £5 and they send you a piece of paper telling you to call 192
>> | and ask
>> | for your phone line to be disconnected.
>> |
>> | Legal?
>>
>> Not an urban myth, it was featured on BBC's 'That's Life' back in the
>> eighties, and was a real advert. I guess some on here would say that
>> wasn't a con either.
>>
>
> Anyone want fifty disposable cigarette lighters for £5?
>

I've got an old bridge I'm not using

Blah wrote:
|| Rob wrote:
||| [email protected] wrote:
|||| On 23 Oct, 11:23, Yuda <[email protected]> wrote:
||||| Peter Crosland wrote:
|||||
|||||| Paypal will refund if you ask. This is a con as you have
|||||| discovered.
|||||
|||||| Peter Crosland
|||||
||||| How is it a con? The guy got exactly what he was offered before
||||| any money was taken. He agreed to it.
||||
|||| I remember once hearing a story (urban myth perhaps) about an
|||| advert in the paper:
|||| "No more BT phone bills. Send £5 for information.".
||||
|||| You send £5 and they send you a piece of paper telling you to call
|||| 192 and ask
|||| for your phone line to be disconnected.
||||
|||| Legal?
|||
||| Not an urban myth, it was featured on BBC's 'That's Life' back in
||| the eighties, and was a real advert. I guess some on here would say
||| that wasn't a con either.
|||
||
|| Anyone want fifty disposable cigarette lighters for £5?

Indeed :-)

Actually it's still a rip-off even if they were plastic gas filled ones, as
I've got a box of 50 that cost me only £3.

--
Rob

Yuda <[email protected]> wrote:

>Blah wrote:
>> Rob wrote:
>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> | On 23 Oct, 11:23, Yuda <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> || Peter Crosland wrote:
>>> ||
>>> ||| Paypal will refund if you ask. This is a con as you have discovered.
>>> ||
>>> ||| Peter Crosland
>>> ||
>>> || How is it a con? The guy got exactly what he was offered before any
>>> || money was taken. He agreed to it.
>>> |
>>> | I remember once hearing a story (urban myth perhaps) about an advert
>>> | in the paper:
>>> | "No more BT phone bills. Send £5 for information.".
>>> |
>>> | You send £5 and they send you a piece of paper telling you to call 192
>>> | and ask
>>> | for your phone line to be disconnected.
>>> |
>>> | Legal?
>>>
>>> Not an urban myth, it was featured on BBC's 'That's Life' back in the
>>> eighties, and was a real advert. I guess some on here would say that
>>> wasn't a con either.
>>>
>>
>> Anyone want fifty disposable cigarette lighters for £5?
>>
>
>I've got an old bridge I'm not using

I might have someone from the "global warming" thread who'd be an easy
touch..

Update:

I e-mailed the company explaining that I was unhappy with the transaction
and that I felt I had been mislead in what they were advertising.

They have just refunded the full payment to my paypal account.

Now....What can they do with my IMEI that I should be worried about?

On 23 Oct, 13:19, "Bob Eager" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:55:08 UTC, [email protected] wrote:
> > On 23 Oct, 11:23, Yuda <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Peter Crosland wrote:
>
> > > > Paypal will refund if you ask. This is a con as you have discovered..
>
> > > > Peter Crosland
>
> > > How is it a con? The guy got exactly what he was offered before any
> > > money was taken. He agreed to it.
>
> > I remember once hearing a story (urban myth perhaps) about an advert
> > in the paper:
> > "No more BT phone bills. Send £5 for information.".
>
> > You send £5 and they send you a piece of paper telling you to call 192
> > and ask
> > for your phone line to be disconnected.
>
> > Legal?
>
> I doubt it very much. It's the wrong number!

Well the 192 is from my memory, 190,152 or just 100 perhaps? Lol

"S0N1C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have just paid £3.49 for I believed would be an unlock code for my Nokia
>5310 to unlockwarehouse.co.uk.
>
> The reply I've received is below.
>
> This is clearly not what I paid for. The opening line quoted below is
> misleading to say the least.
>
> Do I have any recourse in this?
>
> What are my statutary rights considering I am unhappy with the service
> provided and do not want the goods purchased.
>
> Can I demand a refund? Through Paypal?
>
> I realise this is a small amount of money but if I don't make a stand
> they'll continue to do it to other unsuspecting people.
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm Sarah from UnlockWarehouse. If you have any questions about your order
> please contact me directly as contact via paypal can take up to 21 days to
> resolve.
>
> We have processed your order to unlock your Nokia 5310 and as stated on
> the front of our homepage www.UnlockWarehouse.co.uk "Our solutions include
> unlocking codes, guides and software depending on your handset. Guides do
> not always contain codes but general information to help you get your
> mobile unlocked with minimal fuss."
>
> Please find below your unlock guide for your mobile. If in the unlikely
> event you are still unable to unlock your handset after exhausting all the
> options in the guide we can post you out a pay-as-you-go sim card for any
> of the UK networks completely free of charge to get your phone running
> again as soon as possible. If you require a sim card please reply stating
> the network you require and the address you would like it posted to.
>
> If you have any questions please contact me directly via email and I will
> do my best to be of assistance.
>
> Many Thanks,
>
> Sarah Newton
> www.unlockwarehouse.co.uk
>
> Order Details:
>
> Phone: Nokia 5310
> Locked to: Vodafone
> Order Status: Delivered
> Order Code: 1566049
>
> Step By Step Unlocking Guide for NOKIA 5310
>
> Tip: Always follow these steps in order when trying to unlock your mobile.
>
> Step 1 - Direct from the network
>
> The first thing you should always do is contact your network operator that
> the phone is locked to. Inform them you wish to unlock your handset. In
> many cases they will provide the unique unlock code for free. If they do
> you can now use any simcard in your mobile if they don't then move onto
> the the next step.
>
> Step 2 - Free Software is often available online.
>
> At the time of publishing this guide we were unable to locate free
> software that will unlock your exact phone model.
>
> The GSM FORUM has lots of links to free software and your handset may be
> listed there.
>
> Visit the GSM FORUM at:
>
> http://www.gsm-forum.eu
>
> If you have tried the software solutions and you are unable to unlock your
> handset you must move on to step 3.
>
> STEP 3: Last remaining options - getting the best possible deal
>
> As the cheapest methods have failed to unlock your mobile you are left
> with a few options to unlock your Nokia 5310.
>
> You have to shop around and try and get the best deal to get your mobile
> unlocked. All networks will provide an unlock code for a fee. Contact them
> and find out how much it will cost. Now look online depending on the
> network your Nokia is locked to codes wil be available for a range of
> prices. Always buy these codes which cost anything from £10 to £30 from a
> site that provides a guarantee. We recommend emailing the site first to
> ensure they have the code and give you a timescale for providing it.
>
> Once you know both the costs you now know the cheapest code you can
> acquire to unlock your mobile. Try market stalls and local phone repair
> shops to see if anyone can unlock your make model using hardware for less
> than the cost of a network unlock code.
>
> It's up to you to decide whether to purchase a code or use a local repair
> shop. They will both work so price and availibility may be the main
> factors when making this decision.
>
> Thank you for choosing UnlockWarehouse.
>
> If you have any questions please contact me directly.
>
> ------------------------
>
> Sarah Newton
>
>
> Unlock Warehouse
> [email protected]

Looking at their terms you have been sent exactly what you ordered...

"Phone models that will get an unlocking guide
Samsung - All models not listed in codes section above
Sony - All models not currently listed in code or software section above
Nokia - All models not currently listed in code or software section above
LG - All models not currently listed in code or software section above
Blackberry - All models not currently listed in code or software section
above
All other phone makes not currently listed above."

The Nokia 5310 is not one of the phones that they say will receive 'instant
codes'

I personally would put it down to experience and read the 'small print'
before parting with money again.

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:43:15 UTC, [email protected] wrote:

> On 23 Oct, 13:19, "Bob Eager" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:55:08 UTC, [email protected] wrote:
> > > On 23 Oct, 11:23, Yuda <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > Peter Crosland wrote:
> >
> > > > > Paypal will refund if you ask. This is a con as you have discovered.
> >
> > > > > Peter Crosland
> >
> > > > How is it a con? The guy got exactly what he was offered before any
> > > > money was taken. He agreed to it.
> >
> > > I remember once hearing a story (urban myth perhaps) about an advert
> > > in the paper:
> > > "No more BT phone bills. Send £5 for information.".
> >
> > > You send £5 and they send you a piece of paper telling you to call 192
> > > and ask
> > > for your phone line to be disconnected.
> >
> > > Legal?
> >
> > I doubt it very much. It's the wrong number!
>
> Well the 192 is from my memory, 190,152 or just 100 perhaps? Lol

100 would do. 192 was directory enquiries! :-)
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On 23 Oct, 18:18, "Bob Eager" <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:43:15 UTC, [email protected] wrote:
> > On 23 Oct, 13:19, "Bob Eager" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 10:55:08 UTC, [email protected] wrote:
> > > > On 23 Oct, 11:23, Yuda <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > Peter Crosland wrote:
>
> > > > > > Paypal will refund if you ask. This is a con as you have discovered.
>
> > > > > > Peter Crosland
>
> > > > > How is it a con? The guy got exactly what he was offered before any
> > > > > money was taken. He agreed to it.
>
> > > > I remember once hearing a story (urban myth perhaps) about an advert
> > > > in the paper:
> > > > "No more BT phone bills. Send £5 for information.".
>
> > > > You send £5 and they send you a piece of paper telling you to call 192
> > > > and ask
> > > > for your phone line to be disconnected.
>
> > > > Legal?
>
> > > I doubt it very much. It's the wrong number!
>
> > Well the 192 is from my memory, 190,152 or just 100 perhaps? Lol
>
> 100 would do. 192 was directory enquiries! *:-)

150 or 152 (business)? Think that's the one! :-)

"Rob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> Blah wrote:
> || Rob wrote:
> ||| [email protected] wrote:
> |||| On 23 Oct, 11:23, Yuda <[email protected]> wrote:
<snip>
> || Anyone want fifty disposable cigarette lighters for £5?
>
> Indeed :-)
>
> Actually it's still a rip-off even if they were plastic gas filled ones,
> as I've got a box of 50 that cost me only £3
> Rob
>
Nope, you still haven't got it, a box of 50 disposable cigarette lighters,
is a box of matches

Steve Terry

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:28:51 UTC, "Steve Terry" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>
> "Rob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news[email protected]...
> > Blah wrote:
> > || Rob wrote:
> > ||| [email protected] wrote:
> > |||| On 23 Oct, 11:23, Yuda <[email protected]> wrote:
> <snip>
> > || Anyone want fifty disposable cigarette lighters for £5?
> >
> > Indeed :-)
> >
> > Actually it's still a rip-off even if they were plastic gas filled ones,
> > as I've got a box of 50 that cost me only £3
> > Rob
> >
> Nope, you still haven't got it, a box of 50 disposable cigarette lighters,
> is a box of matches

Actually, I think he *had* got it...hence the 'even if'. His point being
that his gas filled ones were even cheaper than the matches...

--
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In news:[email protected],
Bob Eager <[email protected]> typed, for some strange, unexplained reason:
: On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 17:28:51 UTC, "Steve Terry" <[email protected]>
: wrote:
:
: >
: > "Rob" <[email protected]> wrote in message
: > news[email protected]...
: > > Blah wrote:
: > > || Rob wrote:
: > > ||| [email protected] wrote:
: > > |||| On 23 Oct, 11:23, Yuda <[email protected]> wrote:
: > <snip>
: > > || Anyone want fifty disposable cigarette lighters for £5?
: > >
: > > Indeed :-)
: > >
: > > Actually it's still a rip-off even if they were plastic gas
: > > filled ones, as I've got a box of 50 that cost me only £3
: > > Rob
: > >
: > Nope, you still haven't got it, a box of 50 disposable cigarette
: > lighters, is a box of matches
:
: Actually, I think he *had* got it...hence the 'even if'. His point
: being that his gas filled ones were even cheaper than the matches...

My favourite one as a kid (we all smoked like chimneys at school, didn't
you..?!) was someone who asked the crowd in the playground how to turn a
packet of cigarettes into a lighter.

They all stood scratching their heads, of course the answer was to take
out a fag, thus making the packet 'a cigarette lighter'..!


Ivor

"S0N1C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I have just paid £3.49 for I believed would be an unlock code for my Nokia
>5310 to unlockwarehouse.co.uk.
>
> The reply I've received is below.
>
Send them a mail accusing them of bein CON ARTIST, tell them they are RIP
OFF merchants and that you are reporting them to tradin standards.

They will refund your money the following day and apologise for you not
being happy with there service.

post your happy results back here.

Sean

On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 12:46:23 +0100, Blah <[email protected]> wrote:

>Anyone want fifty disposable cigarette lighters for £5?

My local poundland does 10 decent disposable lighters for £1, so for
£5 you could get 50. Can I have £5 for my services? Ta.
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S0N1C wrote:
> I have just paid £3.49 for I believed would be an unlock code for my
> Nokia 5310 to unlockwarehouse.co.uk.
>
> The reply I've received is below.
>
> This is clearly not what I paid for. The opening line quoted below is
> misleading to say the least.
>
> I realise this is a small amount of money but if I don't make a stand
> they'll continue to do it to other unsuspecting people.
>

I believe something like this came up a while back, exactly the same con.
Not sure whether it was the same outfit though.

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