Sprint PCS or Cingular/GSM?

[email protected] (Steve W) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > Well, I called Sprint and apparently they tested signal strength at a
> > location outside my apartment and they reported back saying that it
> > was good. In other words, I guess if I change my phone things would be
> > better.
>
> I'd suggest a Sanyo. I've had the 4500, 4700, 4900, and now 4920.
> There does seem to be a difference between phones even between current
> phones. I'd suggest the 4920 as I've had excellent signal strength
> with it. Good luck.
>
> Steve

Thanks, Steve. Well, what I did was that I bought myself two Sanyo
PM-8200 phones (they look great and are very compact with great
display and intuitive user-interface - unlike the Motorola V400)
yesterday to replace my old LG TP-5250 and got a new two year
contract. They worked better than the older phones but still the
signal was low and worked in less than half the areas in my small 2
bedroom apt. That was unfortunate, I returned the phones and cancelled
the new contract the same day (they have a 14 day return policy). Plan
on getting the V400 and setting up a contract with Cingular. The
cingular rep gave me a demo phone that works everywhere inside the
house, even in closed spaces like inside the bathroom and the signal
is very good. I think the issue is coverage. I wish Sprint sets up
provisions to provide demo phones like Cingular does, would save
potential customers a lot of trouble, I guess.

Thanks again.

Aravind

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"Aravind" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [email protected] (Steve W) wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > > Well, I called Sprint and apparently they tested signal strength at a
> > > location outside my apartment and they reported back saying that it
> > > was good. In other words, I guess if I change my phone things would be
> > > better.
> >
> > I'd suggest a Sanyo. I've had the 4500, 4700, 4900, and now 4920.
> > There does seem to be a difference between phones even between current
> > phones. I'd suggest the 4920 as I've had excellent signal strength
> > with it. Good luck.
> >
> > Steve
>
> Thanks, Steve. Well, what I did was that I bought myself two Sanyo
> PM-8200 phones (they look great and are very compact with great
> display and intuitive user-interface - unlike the Motorola V400)
> yesterday to replace my old LG TP-5250 and got a new two year
> contract. They worked better than the older phones but still the
> signal was low and worked in less than half the areas in my small 2
> bedroom apt. That was unfortunate, I returned the phones and cancelled
> the new contract the same day (they have a 14 day return policy). Plan
> on getting the V400 and setting up a contract with Cingular. The
> cingular rep gave me a demo phone that works everywhere inside the
> house, even in closed spaces like inside the bathroom and the signal
> is very good. I think the issue is coverage. I wish Sprint sets up
> provisions to provide demo phones like Cingular does, would save
> potential customers a lot of trouble, I guess.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Aravind

Aravind, I hope you didn't cancel your service with SPCS before moving to
Cingular. I say that, as you will not be able to port over your numbers, if
you did cancel your SPCS account. The step to take is to sign up with
Cingular, then tell Cingular to port your numbers.

Bob

On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 08:17:27 -0700, Aravind wrote:

> Lunchboxx <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
>> with cingular and att roaming together you dont need anything else
>
>
snip
> by this rate of increase in coverage it does appear promising for the
> future, I guess. The local rep tells me that Cingular hopes to
key word:
hopes

> finish expanding coverage by end of 2005 and that by then almost the whole
> country is likely to be covered.
impossible

>
> I guess the truth would lie somewhere in between.
yes it is
Evil Empire follows:

Cingular is actually SBC if you read the fine print, and I am loath to give
them any money
When it was Ameritech, we WERE held hostage at my mom's house with ****y
phone service. It was so bad (pre cell phone era) that we had to walk a
half a mile (in rain and snow) to call somebody, if it was a medical
emergency we of course ran. I promised the rep from Ameritech If I could
I would leave and never come back, he didn't seem to care.
Later the lines were opened to competition we left.
Years later(now SBC) they called at my new house and asked if I wanted to
reconnect. I said no the service I have now is fine and cheap.
They kept calling and calling(to the point of being a nusance call).
Finally the "do not call list" started.
They still called!
so I filed a complaint with the state and I haven't been bothered by SBC
since.
my dilema now is Cingular has gsm service in America, I can buy and unlock
a phone to use it in Europe, but if I do business with Cingular does
that open me up to really high pressure land line salesman, or have they
given that up?
Sprint has anolog as it's fall back fo those remote areas in my state
I'm leaning on keeping the Sprint acount and getting a unlocked pre-pay
gsm sim card phone as a backup phone for the wife to use if she needs it
just my 2 cents

>
> Aravind

>Cingular is actually SBC if you read the fine print,

Actually Cingular is a partnership between Bell South and SBC. I think that the
division is 40% Bell South and 60% SBC.

No fine print at all. It is a well known fact.

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John S.
e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net

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In <[email protected]> on Sun, 17 Oct 2004
02:47:39 -0500, Bob Lambeau <[email protected]> wrote:

>Cingular is actually SBC if you read the fine print, ...

Cingular is actually a joint venture between SBC and BellSouth.

>my dilema now is Cingular has gsm service in America,

Likewise AT&T Wireless and T-Mobile.

>I can buy and unlock
>a phone to use it in Europe,

Or you can buy a separate cheap unlocked phone for use in Europe.

>but if I do business with Cingular does
>that open me up to really high pressure land line salesman, or have they
>given that up?

Cingular is in the cell phone business, not the land line business.

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John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

Bob Lambeau wrote:
> yes it is
> Evil Empire follows:
>
> Cingular is actually SBC if you read the fine print, and I am loath to give
> them any money
> When it was Ameritech, we WERE held hostage at my mom's house with ****y
> phone service. It was so bad (pre cell phone era) that we had to walk a
> half a mile (in rain and snow) to call somebody, if it was a medical
> emergency we of course ran. I promised the rep from Ameritech If I could
> I would leave and never come back, he didn't seem to care.
> Later the lines were opened to competition we left.
> Years later(now SBC) they called at my new house and asked if I wanted to
> reconnect. I said no the service I have now is fine and cheap.
> They kept calling and calling(to the point of being a nusance call).
> Finally the "do not call list" started.
> They still called!
> so I filed a complaint with the state and I haven't been bothered by SBC
> since.
> my dilema now is Cingular has gsm service in America, I can buy and unlock
> a phone to use it in Europe, but if I do business with Cingular does
> that open me up to really high pressure land line salesman, or have they
> given that up?
> Sprint has anolog as it's fall back fo those remote areas in my state
> I'm leaning on keeping the Sprint acount and getting a unlocked pre-pay
> gsm sim card phone as a backup phone for the wife to use if she needs it
> just my 2 cents
>
>
>>Aravind
>
>

Don't judge SBC by what Ameritech did. What a piece of trash Ameritech
was. I don't live in the area, but I do know that when Ameritech joined
the SBC family they caused major hell. Fines and all kinds of crap to
deal with.
As Mr Navas said, Cingular is a joint venture between Bell South and
SBC. I don't remember the split exactly, you can look that up for
yourself. You WILL not receive phone calls pressuring you to switch to
SBC landline as a result of being a Cingular customer. You may at some
point, be offered a better price for being a customer of both services,
but never a target for sales calls.

In article <[email protected]>,
cambie <[email protected]> wrote:

> As Mr Navas said, Cingular is a joint venture between Bell South and
> SBC. I don't remember the split exactly, you can look that up for
> yourself. You WILL not receive phone calls pressuring you to switch to
> SBC landline as a result of being a Cingular customer. You may at some
> point, be offered a better price for being a customer of both services,
> but never a target for sales calls.

SBC offers a discount on Cingular service, but its a discount from
inflated prices so the end result is the same price one gets walking
cold into a Cingular store. Deceptive Trade Practice is the name for
that. Very similar to Hertz discounts.

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 21 Oct
2004 12:36:34 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>SBC offers a discount on Cingular service, but its a discount from
>inflated prices so the end result is the same price one gets walking
>cold into a Cingular store. Deceptive Trade Practice is the name for
>that. Very similar to Hertz discounts.

Anything to back that claim up?

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

In article <[email protected]>,
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:


>
> In <jzwick> on Thu, 21 Oct
> 2004 12:36:34 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >SBC offers a discount on Cingular service, but its a discount from
> >inflated prices so the end result is the same price one gets walking
> >cold into a Cingular store. Deceptive Trade Practice is the name for
> >that. Very similar to Hertz discounts.
>
> Anything to back that claim up?

They've changed it, so I understand your confusion, now the rate plans
are the same, but the phones are more expensive for SBC customers.
i.e. Motorola v400 - $99.99 for SBC customers ;
$59.99 for off the street Cingular Customers.

Just go to sbc.com and cingular.com and compare for yourself.

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 21 Oct
2004 16:02:28 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> In <jzwick> on Thu, 21 Oct
>> 2004 12:36:34 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >SBC offers a discount on Cingular service, but its a discount from
>> >inflated prices so the end result is the same price one gets walking
>> >cold into a Cingular store. Deceptive Trade Practice is the name for
>> >that. Very similar to Hertz discounts.
>>
>> Anything to back that claim up?
>
>They've changed it, so I understand your confusion, now the rate plans
>are the same, but the phones are more expensive for SBC customers.
>i.e. Motorola v400 - $99.99 for SBC customers ;
> $59.99 for off the street Cingular Customers.
>
>Just go to sbc.com and cingular.com and compare for yourself.

That doesn't back up the claim of "Deceptive Trade Practice". SBC does
discount rate plans -- the end result is not the same -- and while the SBC
handset price is higher than the Cingular promotional price on one particular
handset (V400), it's the same on other handsets (e.g., C1300), and lower on
one before rebate (T637).

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

In article <[email protected]>,
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <[email protected]> on Thu, 21 Oct
> 2004 16:02:28 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> > John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> In <jzwick> on Thu, 21 Oct
> >> 2004 12:36:34 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> >SBC offers a discount on Cingular service, but its a discount from
> >> >inflated prices so the end result is the same price one gets walking
> >> >cold into a Cingular store. Deceptive Trade Practice is the name for
> >> >that. Very similar to Hertz discounts.
> >>
> >> Anything to back that claim up?
> >
> >They've changed it, so I understand your confusion, now the rate plans
> >are the same, but the phones are more expensive for SBC customers.
> >i.e. Motorola v400 - $99.99 for SBC customers ;
> > $59.99 for off the street Cingular Customers.
> >
> >Just go to sbc.com and cingular.com and compare for yourself.
>
> That doesn't back up the claim of "Deceptive Trade Practice". SBC does
> discount rate plans -- the end result is not the same -- and while the SBC
> handset price is higher than the Cingular promotional price on one particular
> handset (V400), it's the same on other handsets (e.g., C1300), and lower on
> one before rebate (T637).

How come you suddenly found time to look at the web sites ?

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 21 Oct
2004 18:19:30 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>How come you suddenly found time to look at the web sites ?

How come you suddenly found time to be annoying?

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Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

In article <[email protected]>,
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> >How come you suddenly found time to look at the web sites ?
>
> How come you suddenly found time to be annoying?

Sorry you find my reporting SBC's duplicity annoying, but we all know
how you incorrectly think Cingular is perfect.

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 21 Oct
2004 20:50:55 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:

>In article <[email protected]>,
> John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> >How come you suddenly found time to look at the web sites ?
>>
>> How come you suddenly found time to be annoying?
>
>Sorry you find my reporting SBC's duplicity annoying,

You've failed to show any duplicity.

>but we all know
>how you incorrectly think Cingular is perfect.

No carrier is perfect, but that's a long way from your libelous "Deceptive
Trade Practice" and "duplicity".

--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

In article <[email protected]>,
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <[email protected]> on Thu, 21 Oct
> 2004 20:50:55 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> > John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> >How come you suddenly found time to look at the web sites ?
> >>
> >> How come you suddenly found time to be annoying?
> >
> >Sorry you find my reporting SBC's duplicity annoying,
>
> You've failed to show any duplicity.

Two different pricing isn't duplicity?

We already established one set of pricing for SBC customers and
lower prices for walkin Cingular customers.

Only a Cingular shill would fail to see it.