iPhone outsells ALL smartphones in July

On 2007-09-04 14:34:10 -0700, Steve Mackay <[email protected]> said:

> Get back to us when you take down that shrine of Steve Jobs that you
> pray to every day.

You realize, I hope, that a statement like that says far more about
you, than the person you directed it towards.

-jcr

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"Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> re-posted, and very true...
>
> Apple is a Disruptive Company, A modern day Business Volcano.
>
> From the day of it's creation Apple has been a disruptive force in any
> market it touched. The Apple II disrupted the computer industry by
> creating a personal computer the average citizen could use. The Mac was
> extremely disruptive in that it allowed the rest of us to actually be
> productive and creative without having to fully understand how computers
> work.
>
> The iPod disrupted the music industry big time. Now comes the iPhone
> doing the same thing to the cellphone industry.
>
> Every time Apple enters a market they turn well established, profitable
> business models into obsolete mush. And the big players don't like it
> one bit.
>
> Now the cellphone industry has been seriously disrupted and players are
> scurrying around like rodents trying to figure out what to do next.
>
> This a VERY GOOD thing.
>
> -

Yeah, They were so disruptive that they almost went belly up. If not for
Bill Gates handing them over 100 million.

The iPhone is a damn toy - not worth a **** for business.
Slick interface, not much else.

It "disrupted' very little - if anything.

Pull your head out fanboy!!


"Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> re-posted, and very true...
>
> Apple is a Disruptive Company, A modern day Business Volcano.
>
> From the day of it's creation Apple has been a disruptive force in any
> market it touched. The Apple II disrupted the computer industry by
> creating a personal computer the average citizen could use. The Mac was
> extremely disruptive in that it allowed the rest of us to actually be
> productive and creative without having to fully understand how computers
> work.
>
> The iPod disrupted the music industry big time. Now comes the iPhone
> doing the same thing to the cellphone industry.
>
> Every time Apple enters a market they turn well established, profitable
> business models into obsolete mush. And the big players don't like it
> one bit.
>
> Now the cellphone industry has been seriously disrupted and players are
> scurrying around like rodents trying to figure out what to do next.
>
> This a VERY GOOD thing.
>
> -

The iPhone is a damn toy - not worth a **** for business.

And, by your comments, I see you certainly aren't in business.
I doubt you've ever used a spreadsheet - or you wouldn't have made
such an asinine comment.

Pull your head out fanboy!


"Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Can you directly edit a spreadsheet on any other phone? nope! not really.
>
> The iPhone is a high powered communication device that has already
> changed the world... in 65 days! a new Apple record!
>
> You are talking about very old "apple //" concepts, "a spreadsheet" if
> it had any value would be updated through Ruby on Rails, AJAX or PHP, so
> your iPhone would display the latest info every time.
>
> A "spreadsheet" is like the postit note of the 90's.
>
> Get with the program!

In article <[email protected]>,
George <[email protected]> wrote:

> Oxford wrote:
> > George <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>> Now the cellphone industry has been seriously disrupted and players are
> >>> scurrying around like rodents trying to figure out what to do next.
> >>>
> >>> This a VERY GOOD thing.
> >>>
> >>> -
> >> The iphone is an entertainment device. Lots of folks have and use a
> >> smartphone for business purposes. Can you directly edit a spreadsheet or
> >> document sent to your iphone? Can you use the non-existent GPS to
> >> display your position and route?
> >
> > Can you directly edit a spreadsheet on any other phone? nope! not really.
> >
>
> Yes, really.
>
> > The iPhone is a high powered communication device that has already
> > changed the world... in 65 days! a new Apple record!
> >
> > You are talking about very old "apple //" concepts, "a spreadsheet" if
> > it had any value would be updated through Ruby on Rails, AJAX or PHP, so
> > your iPhone would display the latest info every time.
> >
>
> Thats OK, I think the "old" concepts will be around for awhile...
>
>
> > A "spreadsheet" is like the postit note of the 90's.
> >
> > Get with the program!
>
> So you agree that your entertainment only iphone isn't really suitable
> for business use?

I use it for my business. Sold my Treo because this trumped it in every
way. Far easier to use and do business with.

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I certainly did play with it and have used one, nice toy for sure.
(REALLY STUPID not to have an exchangeable battery)

But I am in business and it certainly isn't a business tool.

Pull your head out fanboy!


"Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Steve Mackay <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> > Can you directly edit a spreadsheet on any other phone? nope! not really.
>> >
>> > The iPhone is a high powered communication device that has already
>> > changed the world... in 65 days! a new Apple record!
>>
>> Changed the world? Give it a rest oxford. It's a smart phone that isn't
>> particularly smart, nor, by most every report, it isn't even a very good
>> phone.
>
> You clearly don't use an iPhone day to day do you? I do and have a
> non-biased report on the actual device.
>
> If you don't have an iPhone, there is no way you can comment on this
> subject.
>
>> It's got a good screen, and a great web browser. Big whoop. Otherwise my
>> Nokia S60 is a better smart phone.
>
> Actually, in real world use. The iPhone is like touching all data that
> is connected to the planet, it's pretty cool once you start using it.
> Far better screen resolution than the Nokia, they don't even have
> anything in their future labs remotely close to it. At this point, Nokia
> is a gonner I'm afraid. Can you say Sperry?
>
>> > You are talking about very old "apple //" concepts, "a spreadsheet" if
>> > it had any value would be updated through Ruby on Rails, AJAX or PHP, so
>> > your iPhone would display the latest info every time.
>> >
>> > A "spreadsheet" is like the postit note of the 90's.
>> >
>> > Get with the program!
>>
>> I guess that Apple just came out with Apple II technology to create
>> their "numbers" app, eh? <eye roll>
>
> The Apple // created the first spreadsheet, that's a fact. Hard to say
> what the first killer app on the iPhone will be, but it's assured nobody
> else will have access to it since they don't have access to quality cell
> phone hardware.
>
> -

In article <[email protected]>,
"Ness_net" <[email protected]> wrote:

> The iPhone is a damn toy - not worth a **** for business.
>
> And, by your comments, I see you certainly aren't in business.
> I doubt you've ever used a spreadsheet - or you wouldn't have made
> such an asinine comment.
>
> Pull your head out fanboy!
>
yes a spreadsheet with 1 pt type. You do real efficient "business"
trying to work with that.

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Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Apple will KILL off RIM, MOT, Symbian, Nokia, Samsung... they just don't
> > have the talent to compete against OSX inside a Phone.
> >
>
> You'd better hope not! Apple runs on MOTOROLA PROCESSORS!
>
> Larry

Good Lord Larry! Where have you been over the last 2 years? Apple runs
only on Intel processors for their Macs and the iPhone uses an Apple
branded Samsung ARM as the processor.

Apple hasn't used Motorola processors for what 4-5 years?

But thanks for playing!

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Scott <[email protected]> wrote:

> Wow- less than 2% of the market, despite spending a large fortune on viral
> advertising during the time period. For Apple, that kind of market share
> would be huge.
>
> In the mean time, not a single AT&T commercial features the iPhone and a
> random survey of AT&T retailers shows that it falls well down the list of
> recommended devices when not asked for specifically.
>
> BTW- for Apple to sell 4.5 million phones with a 1.8% market share (as the
> article implies), every cellular user in the US would have to replace their
> phone between now and the year. Not likely.

getting around 2% in less than 60 days is pretty remarkable. then
outselling all other smartphones "combined", bodes well for them to get
10-15% in 1.5 years.

AT&T clearly isn't allowed to advertise the iPhone, so not sure why you
made that comment.

Ah, we are talking about "smartphones", plus you are forgetting about
Europe where they have never seen such an advanced phone. It will sell
like blockbusters!

My sense is they will hit 10 million iPhones by Jan 1, 2008. Or pretty
darn close.

On Sep 4, 4:06 pm, George <[email protected]> wrote:
> Oxford wrote:
> > George <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>> Now the cellphone industry has been seriously disrupted and players are
> >>> scurrying around like rodents trying to figure out what to do next.
>
> >>> This a VERY GOOD thing.
>
> >>> -
> >> The iphone is an entertainment device. Lots of folks have and use a
> >> smartphone for business purposes. Can you directly edit a spreadsheet or
> >> document sent to your iphone? Can you use the non-existent GPS to
> >> display your position and route?
>
> > Can you directly edit a spreadsheet on any other phone? nope! not really.
>
> Yes, really.
>
> > The iPhone is a high powered communication device that has already
> > changed the world... in 65 days! a new Apple record!
>
> > You are talking about very old "apple //" concepts, "a spreadsheet" if
> > it had any value would be updated through Ruby on Rails, AJAX or PHP, so
> > your iPhone would display the latest info every time.
>
> Thats OK, I think the "old" concepts will be around for awhile...
>
> > A "spreadsheet" is like the postit note of the 90's.
>
> > Get with the program!
>
> So you agree that your entertainment only iphone isn't really suitable
> for business use?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Sure you can edit spreadsheets on the iPhone....

http://docs.google.com

KDT <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sure you can edit spreadsheets on the iPhone....
>
> http://docs.googl

interesting, so another iPhone myth dies a painful death...

Moron can't even post a link....
Yet, you snipe at others about being new...


"Oxford" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> KDT <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sure you can edit spreadsheets on the iPhone....
>>
>> http://docs.googl
>
> interesting, so another iPhone myth dies a painful death...

Oxford <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Scott <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Wow- less than 2% of the market, despite spending a large fortune on
>> viral advertising during the time period. For Apple, that kind of
>> market share would be huge.
>>
>> In the mean time, not a single AT&T commercial features the iPhone
>> and a random survey of AT&T retailers shows that it falls well down
>> the list of recommended devices when not asked for specifically.
>>
>> BTW- for Apple to sell 4.5 million phones with a 1.8% market share
>> (as the article implies), every cellular user in the US would have to
>> replace their phone between now and the year. Not likely.
>
> getting around 2% in less than 60 days is pretty remarkable. then
> outselling all other smartphones "combined",

Why are you comparing apples to oranges- the iPhone is NOT a smart phone.

> bodes well for them to
> get 10-15% in 1.5 years.

Um- no.


>
> AT&T clearly isn't allowed to advertise the iPhone, so not sure why
> you made that comment.

Citation?

>
> Ah, we are talking about "smartphones", plus you are forgetting about
> Europe where they have never seen such an advanced phone. It will sell
> like blockbusters!
>
> My sense is they will hit 10 million iPhones by Jan 1, 2008. Or pretty
> darn close.
>

Oh crap- you made me squirt soda all over the keyboard with that one. Ever
thought of a career in comedy?

At 04 Sep 2007 18:16:27 -0700 Kurt wrote:

> yes a spreadsheet with 1 pt type. You do real efficient "business"
> trying to work with that.


I always find it interesting when someone complains about screen size
and resolution on modern smartphones. Sure it isn't a 1084x768 17"
display, but 320x240 and 640x480 were both desktop standards not too
many years sgo. I find Excel no more difficult to use on my PPC
screen than Lotus 1-2-3 or Multiplan were on my ancient CGA displays
years ago.

A PDA/smartphone is a technological Swiss Army Knife. A very useful
collection of tools in a compact, easy to carry package. Sure, any
one of those tools pales in comparison to it's full-sized/full-
featured equivalent, but that's hardly the point, is it? No one
who's ever used the screwdriver or scissors on a Swiss Army knife
prefered it over using a real screwdriver or a real pair of scissors.
The point is that I essentially have the most important capabilities
of a low-end laptop in a device the size of a deck of cards, and,
more importantly, like the knife, I have it EVERYWHERE, unlike a pair
of scissors, screwdriver, or a laptop!

Unlike a prior poster, I won't claim you can't possibly use your
iPhone for business- but I'll guess that your business uses do not
require much more than e-mail, web access and telephony. If so,
fine. But some of us need more, and need it even when the cell
network is unavailable (docs.google.com? Google Maps? Surrre...)

That's why I find the iPhone so disappointing. It's an impressive
piece of hardware hampered by an extremely foolish (greedy?) business
plan. Third-party developers have done amazing things with the iPod.
If given "official" access to the iPhone, these and other 3rd-party
developers would've likely already turned the iPhone into a real
business-class device that'd give RIM, Symbian and MS a run for their
money. As it stands now, it's an iPod phone with webtablet, (and a
darn spiffy one!) A tremendous waste of excellent equipment.




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"I don't need my cell phone to play video games or take pictures
or double as a Walkie-Talkie; I just need it to work. Thanks for
all the bells and whistles, but I could communicate better with
ACTUAL bells and whistles." -Bill Maher 9/25/2003

Scott <[email protected]> wrote:

> > getting around 2% in less than 60 days is pretty remarkable. then
> > outselling all other smartphones "combined",
>
> Why are you comparing apples to oranges- the iPhone is NOT a smart phone.

so it's a GeniusPhone? or as people are starting to call it, the
JesusPhone

It's definitely smarter than any of the "smartphones" currently being
marketed. It's brilliant for sure, perhaps it deserves of higher class
of its own? is that what you are trying to say?

> > bodes well for them to
> > get 10-15% in 1.5 years.
>
> Um- no.

well sure, it could be a bit higher, but I think 10-15% is about right
for the "smartphone" market in the 36 month timeframe.

> > AT&T clearly isn't allowed to advertise the iPhone, so not sure why
> > you made that comment.
>
> Citation?

doesn't require a citation, Apple does not allow others to advertise the
iPhone. sounds like you don't know much about Apple, is that correct?

> > Ah, we are talking about "smartphones", plus you are forgetting about
> > Europe where they have never seen such an advanced phone. It will sell
> > like blockbusters!
> >
> > My sense is they will hit 10 million iPhones by Jan 1, 2008. Or pretty
> > darn close.
>
> Oh crap- you made me squirt soda all over the keyboard with that one. Ever
> thought of a career in comedy?

Perhaps you have never heard of Christmas? Apple sold 21.1 million iPods
during the 2006 holiday season. It will sell around 33 million this
year, so it's a no brainer Apple will sell around 6.5 million iPhones in
that period alone. So 10 million sounds about right.