Verizon in Florida

Sarah:

GTE is now ALLTEL and not Verizon? Try this, type http://www.gte.com
in your browser and see what happens - you will be redirected to
VERIZON.COM.

And maybe you can explain why GTE Mobilenet's major office building in
Tampa, FL (right off Westshore and I-275) now has a Verizon sign on
the building?


And perhaps you can explain why all former GTE MOBILENET'S agents and
stores in the Tampa Bay area are now VERIZON agents and stores?

Perhaps you can explain why all my friends in Santa Cruz, CA who were
once GTE MOBILENET customers and did not change their carrier are now
VERIZON customers and not ALLTEL?

Jesus, talk about missing it.

You're splitting hairs here. Pure semantics. I live in MIAMI one
block from U.S. 1 surrounded by MILLIONS of homes in a densely
populated part of the city and I don't have a VERIZON signal here and
I tried it on THREE SEPARATE phones.

Change your maxipad and wait it out babe, it only lasts a week.


sarah <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 05:04:13 -0800, Matapalo wrote:
>
> > FACTS ABOUT VERIZON:
> >
> > VERIZON has excellent coverage on the West Coast of Florida in the old
> > GTE Mobilenet coverage area, however, where they acquired PrimeCo
> > networks the coverage SUCKS!
>
> Correcting your "facts":
>
> Verizon does not operate the old GTE Mobilnet network in the Tampa area.
> That network was taken over by Alltel. The area of Florida Verizon
> currently serves with its former PrimeCo network largely overlaps Alltel's
> coverage area. Within Florida, Verizon provides essentially the same
> geographical coverage with either the Local or AC plan, and it is very
> complete. They accomplish this via their free roaming agreements with
> other CDMA carriers in the area. If you have a proper PRL and are in an
> area where the ex-PrimeCo network is unavailable, you will still obtain
> plan service (from Alltel, Sprint, U.S. Cellular, even ATT AMPS). I've
> yet to find a dead or pay-roaming spot. If there are some, it means that
> NO CDMA or AMPS provider is available in that area.

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On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 07:30:40 -0800, Matapalo wrote:

> GTE is now ALLTEL and not Verizon? Try this, type http://www.gte.com
> in your browser and see what happens - you will be redirected to
> VERIZON.COM.
>
> And maybe you can explain why GTE Mobilenet's major office building in
> Tampa, FL (right off Westshore and I-275) now has a Verizon sign on
> the building?
>
> And perhaps you can explain why all former GTE MOBILENET'S agents and
> stores in the Tampa Bay area are now VERIZON agents and stores?
>
> Perhaps you can explain why all my friends in Santa Cruz, CA who were
> once GTE MOBILENET customers and did not change their carrier are now
> VERIZON customers and not ALLTEL?

I'll try to be very clear for you:

Once upon a time, a company named GTE owned and operated an
800 Mhz CDMA system in Florida (called Mobilnet). Also, a company named
Bell Atlantic partly owned and operated a 1900 Mhz CDMA system in Florida
(called PrimeCo). Bell Atlantic and GTE fell in love and decided to get
married. Their married name is Verizon. Before the marriage, the FCC
told the young couple they could not own and operate two separate cellular
systems in any given market area if they wanted to marry. They needed to
divest of one of them. They talked it over and decided to sell the 800
Mhz CDMA Florida network to Alltel (who promptly renamed it ... Alltel).
They kept their PrimeCo network interest (and named it ... Verizon
Wireless). The former Mobilnet customers became Alltel customers. The
former PrimeCo customers became Verizon Wireless customers.

The above happened only in areas where the merging companies owned two
separate cellular systems. In areas where that was not the case, they
simply renamed the existing system Verizon Wireless (regardless of whether
it had formerly been Mobilnet or PrimeCo). Perhaps your California
friends fell into this second category.

Also, notice I said they sold the NETWORK, not the BUILDINGS. That's why
you see a Verizon sign where a Mobilnet sign once was in Tampa.

As for the employees and stores in the Tampa area, you must distinguish
between the former GTE Mobilnet employees/stores, the former GTE PhoneMart
employees/stores, and the former PrimeCo employees/stores. Here it gets
complicated, but suffice it to say that MOST former MobilNet employees are
now Alltel employees. MOST former PhoneMart and PrimeCo employees are now
Verizon employees. The individual stores were divvied up in a similar
fashion.

If you still feel that I am "missing it", you're certainly welcome to your
opinion; however, I suspect that I was much closer to these events than
were you.

Partially true but obscured by raging hormonal imbalances and you do exhibit
a likeable and common tendency towards grotesque simplifications, a common
affliction of women.

Why did my GTE MOBILENET bill show up at my door one day in a VERIZON
envelope with instructions to make payment to VERIZON for my GTE Mobilenet
account? Huh???



"sarah" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 07:30:40 -0800, Matapalo wrote:
>
> > GTE is now ALLTEL and not Verizon? Try this, type http://www.gte.com
> > in your browser and see what happens - you will be redirected to
> > VERIZON.COM.
> >
> > And maybe you can explain why GTE Mobilenet's major office building in
> > Tampa, FL (right off Westshore and I-275) now has a Verizon sign on
> > the building?
> >
> > And perhaps you can explain why all former GTE MOBILENET'S agents and
> > stores in the Tampa Bay area are now VERIZON agents and stores?
> >
> > Perhaps you can explain why all my friends in Santa Cruz, CA who were
> > once GTE MOBILENET customers and did not change their carrier are now
> > VERIZON customers and not ALLTEL?
>
> I'll try to be very clear for you:
>
> Once upon a time, a company named GTE owned and operated an
> 800 Mhz CDMA system in Florida (called Mobilnet). Also, a company named
> Bell Atlantic partly owned and operated a 1900 Mhz CDMA system in Florida
> (called PrimeCo). Bell Atlantic and GTE fell in love and decided to get
> married. Their married name is Verizon. Before the marriage, the FCC
> told the young couple they could not own and operate two separate cellular
> systems in any given market area if they wanted to marry. They needed to
> divest of one of them. They talked it over and decided to sell the 800
> Mhz CDMA Florida network to Alltel (who promptly renamed it ... Alltel).
> They kept their PrimeCo network interest (and named it ... Verizon
> Wireless). The former Mobilnet customers became Alltel customers. The
> former PrimeCo customers became Verizon Wireless customers.
>
> The above happened only in areas where the merging companies owned two
> separate cellular systems. In areas where that was not the case, they
> simply renamed the existing system Verizon Wireless (regardless of whether
> it had formerly been Mobilnet or PrimeCo). Perhaps your California
> friends fell into this second category.
>
> Also, notice I said they sold the NETWORK, not the BUILDINGS. That's why
> you see a Verizon sign where a Mobilnet sign once was in Tampa.
>
> As for the employees and stores in the Tampa area, you must distinguish
> between the former GTE Mobilnet employees/stores, the former GTE PhoneMart
> employees/stores, and the former PrimeCo employees/stores. Here it gets
> complicated, but suffice it to say that MOST former MobilNet employees are
> now Alltel employees. MOST former PhoneMart and PrimeCo employees are now
> Verizon employees. The individual stores were divvied up in a similar
> fashion.
>
> If you still feel that I am "missing it", you're certainly welcome to your
> opinion; however, I suspect that I was much closer to these events than
> were you.
>

You need to grow up and be a bit more polite. When GTE and Bell Atlantic
merged, they had to divest most of GTE Wireless in Florida. Alltel bought
it. All of the GTE Wireless stores then in the Tampa Bay area changed signs
and became Alltel.


--
Thomas M. Goethe



"Matapalo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Sarah:
>
> GTE is now ALLTEL and not Verizon? Try this, type http://www.gte.com
> in your browser and see what happens - you will be redirected to
> VERIZON.COM.
>
> And maybe you can explain why GTE Mobilenet's major office building in
> Tampa, FL (right off Westshore and I-275) now has a Verizon sign on
> the building?
>
>
> And perhaps you can explain why all former GTE MOBILENET'S agents and
> stores in the Tampa Bay area are now VERIZON agents and stores?
>
> Perhaps you can explain why all my friends in Santa Cruz, CA who were
> once GTE MOBILENET customers and did not change their carrier are now
> VERIZON customers and not ALLTEL?
>
> Jesus, talk about missing it.
>
> You're splitting hairs here. Pure semantics. I live in MIAMI one
> block from U.S. 1 surrounded by MILLIONS of homes in a densely
> populated part of the city and I don't have a VERIZON signal here and
> I tried it on THREE SEPARATE phones.
>
> Change your maxipad and wait it out babe, it only lasts a week.
>
>
> sarah <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 05:04:13 -0800, Matapalo wrote:
> >
> > > FACTS ABOUT VERIZON:
> > >
> > > VERIZON has excellent coverage on the West Coast of Florida in the old
> > > GTE Mobilenet coverage area, however, where they acquired PrimeCo
> > > networks the coverage SUCKS!
> >
> > Correcting your "facts":
> >
> > Verizon does not operate the old GTE Mobilnet network in the Tampa area.
> > That network was taken over by Alltel. The area of Florida Verizon
> > currently serves with its former PrimeCo network largely overlaps
Alltel's
> > coverage area. Within Florida, Verizon provides essentially the same
> > geographical coverage with either the Local or AC plan, and it is very
> > complete. They accomplish this via their free roaming agreements with
> > other CDMA carriers in the area. If you have a proper PRL and are in an
> > area where the ex-PrimeCo network is unavailable, you will still obtain
> > plan service (from Alltel, Sprint, U.S. Cellular, even ATT AMPS). I've
> > yet to find a dead or pay-roaming spot. If there are some, it means
that
> > NO CDMA or AMPS provider is available in that area.

Sarah,

You are on the money, but Alltel did get a lot of the buildings, or at
least the rented space, in the Tampa area. They just changed to signs.


--
Thomas M. Goethe

"sarah" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
> On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 07:30:40 -0800, Matapalo wrote:
>
> > GTE is now ALLTEL and not Verizon? Try this, type http://www.gte.com
> > in your browser and see what happens - you will be redirected to
> > VERIZON.COM.
> >
> > And maybe you can explain why GTE Mobilenet's major office building in
> > Tampa, FL (right off Westshore and I-275) now has a Verizon sign on
> > the building?
> >
> > And perhaps you can explain why all former GTE MOBILENET'S agents and
> > stores in the Tampa Bay area are now VERIZON agents and stores?
> >
> > Perhaps you can explain why all my friends in Santa Cruz, CA who were
> > once GTE MOBILENET customers and did not change their carrier are now
> > VERIZON customers and not ALLTEL?
>
> I'll try to be very clear for you:
>
> Once upon a time, a company named GTE owned and operated an
> 800 Mhz CDMA system in Florida (called Mobilnet). Also, a company named
> Bell Atlantic partly owned and operated a 1900 Mhz CDMA system in Florida
> (called PrimeCo). Bell Atlantic and GTE fell in love and decided to get
> married. Their married name is Verizon. Before the marriage, the FCC
> told the young couple they could not own and operate two separate cellular
> systems in any given market area if they wanted to marry. They needed to
> divest of one of them. They talked it over and decided to sell the 800
> Mhz CDMA Florida network to Alltel (who promptly renamed it ... Alltel).
> They kept their PrimeCo network interest (and named it ... Verizon
> Wireless). The former Mobilnet customers became Alltel customers. The
> former PrimeCo customers became Verizon Wireless customers.
>
> The above happened only in areas where the merging companies owned two
> separate cellular systems. In areas where that was not the case, they
> simply renamed the existing system Verizon Wireless (regardless of whether
> it had formerly been Mobilnet or PrimeCo). Perhaps your California
> friends fell into this second category.
>
> Also, notice I said they sold the NETWORK, not the BUILDINGS. That's why
> you see a Verizon sign where a Mobilnet sign once was in Tampa.
>
> As for the employees and stores in the Tampa area, you must distinguish
> between the former GTE Mobilnet employees/stores, the former GTE PhoneMart
> employees/stores, and the former PrimeCo employees/stores. Here it gets
> complicated, but suffice it to say that MOST former MobilNet employees are
> now Alltel employees. MOST former PhoneMart and PrimeCo employees are now
> Verizon employees. The individual stores were divvied up in a similar
> fashion.
>
> If you still feel that I am "missing it", you're certainly welcome to your
> opinion; however, I suspect that I was much closer to these events than
> were you.
>

Shizz In It wrote on [Wed, 3 Dec 2003 15:42:22 -0500]:
> Partially true but obscured by raging hormonal imbalances and you do exhibit
> a likeable and common tendency towards grotesque simplifications, a common
> affliction of women.
>
> Why did my GTE MOBILENET bill show up at my door one day in a VERIZON
> envelope with instructions to make payment to VERIZON for my GTE Mobilenet
> account? Huh???

You are indeed a troll.

And a pretty piss poor effort at one, too

In alt.cellular.verizon Shizz In It <[email protected]> wrote:
> Partially true but obscured by raging hormonal imbalances and you do exhibit
> a likeable and common tendency towards grotesque simplifications, a common
> affliction of women.

Hm, and when presented with facts you turn around and act like an asshole
because you don't like being wrong. A common affliction of many men (and lots
of women too).

Sorry about your luck...


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888.480.4NET (4638) * 248.724.4NET * [email protected]

>>GTE is now ALLTEL and not Verizon? Try this, type http://www.gte.com
>>in your browser and see what happens - you will be redirected to
>>VERIZON.COM.
>>
>>And maybe you can explain why GTE Mobilenet's major office building in
>>Tampa, FL (right off Westshore and I-275) now has a Verizon sign on
>>the building?
>>
>>And perhaps you can explain why all former GTE MOBILENET'S agents and
>>stores in the Tampa Bay area are now VERIZON agents and stores?
>>
>>Perhaps you can explain why all my friends in Santa Cruz, CA who were
>>once GTE MOBILENET customers and did not change their carrier are now
>>VERIZON customers and not ALLTEL?
>
> I'll try to be very clear for you:
>
> Once upon a time, a company named GTE owned and operated an
> 800 Mhz CDMA system in Florida (called Mobilnet). Also, a company named
> Bell Atlantic partly owned and operated a 1900 Mhz CDMA system in Florida
> (called PrimeCo). Bell Atlantic and GTE fell in love and decided to get
> married. Their married name is Verizon. Before the marriage, the FCC
> told the young couple they could not own and operate two separate cellular
> systems in any given market area if they wanted to marry. They needed to
> divest of one of them. They talked it over and decided to sell the 800
> Mhz CDMA Florida network to Alltel (who promptly renamed it ... Alltel).
> They kept their PrimeCo network interest (and named it ... Verizon
> Wireless). The former Mobilnet customers became Alltel customers. The
> former PrimeCo customers became Verizon Wireless customers.
>
> The above happened only in areas where the merging companies owned two
> separate cellular systems. In areas where that was not the case, they
> simply renamed the existing system Verizon Wireless (regardless of whether
> it had formerly been Mobilnet or PrimeCo). Perhaps your California
> friends fell into this second category.
>
> Also, notice I said they sold the NETWORK, not the BUILDINGS. That's why
> you see a Verizon sign where a Mobilnet sign once was in Tampa.
>
> As for the employees and stores in the Tampa area, you must distinguish
> between the former GTE Mobilnet employees/stores, the former GTE PhoneMart
> employees/stores, and the former PrimeCo employees/stores. Here it gets
> complicated, but suffice it to say that MOST former MobilNet employees are
> now Alltel employees. MOST former PhoneMart and PrimeCo employees are now
> Verizon employees. The individual stores were divvied up in a similar
> fashion.
>
> If you still feel that I am "missing it", you're certainly welcome to your
> opinion; however, I suspect that I was much closer to these events than
> were you.

This is indeed correct. This was in the day when there was still a
spectrum cap, and since PrimeCo had a larger area with a 1900 license,
it made sense to divest the GTE Mobilnet that had a limited 850 license,
therefore keeping the possibility to cover a much larger area with PCS
coverage.

==AD

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 16:59:36 GMT, sarah <[email protected]> wrote:

> Before the marriage, the FCC
>told the young couple they could not own and operate two separate cellular
>systems in any given market area if they wanted to marry. They needed to
>divest of one of them. They talked it over and decided to sell the 800
>Mhz CDMA Florida network to Alltel (who promptly renamed it ... Alltel).
>They kept their PrimeCo network interest (and named it ... Verizon
>Wireless). The former Mobilnet customers became Alltel customers. The
>former PrimeCo customers became Verizon Wireless customers.

As we've pointed out here (folks like Steve Sobol and myself) -
similar happened here in NE Ohio. The ex-GTE Mobilenet system here in
the Cleveland/Akron market was divested to Alltel (800 MHz CDMA/AMPS).
The other CDMA/AMPS service became VZW. I believe that was a former
AirTouch system.

>If you still feel that I am "missing it", you're certainly welcome to your
>opinion; however, I suspect that I was much closer to these events than
>were you.

Well, I'm surprised you answered him so calmly, given his neanderthal
insult at the end of his message.

Mike

Because some of the GTE Mobilnet in some areas went to VZW. In other
areas, it had to be divested, thanks to our government and was sold to
Alltel. You live in an area where it went to VZW Wireless. I live in an area
where it went to Alltel. That included most, if not all, of the GTE Mobilnet
holdings in FL.

Grow up and don't be rude.

Adios.



"Shizz In It" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Partially true but obscured by raging hormonal imbalances and you do
exhibit
> a likeable and common tendency towards grotesque simplifications, a common
> affliction of women.
>
> Why did my GTE MOBILENET bill show up at my door one day in a VERIZON
> envelope with instructions to make payment to VERIZON for my GTE Mobilenet
> account? Huh???
>
>
>
> "sarah" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news[email protected]...
> > On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 07:30:40 -0800, Matapalo wrote:
> >
> > > GTE is now ALLTEL and not Verizon? Try this, type http://www.gte.com
> > > in your browser and see what happens - you will be redirected to
> > > VERIZON.COM.
> > >
> > > And maybe you can explain why GTE Mobilenet's major office building in
> > > Tampa, FL (right off Westshore and I-275) now has a Verizon sign on
> > > the building?
> > >
> > > And perhaps you can explain why all former GTE MOBILENET'S agents and
> > > stores in the Tampa Bay area are now VERIZON agents and stores?
> > >
> > > Perhaps you can explain why all my friends in Santa Cruz, CA who were
> > > once GTE MOBILENET customers and did not change their carrier are now
> > > VERIZON customers and not ALLTEL?
> >
> > I'll try to be very clear for you:
> >
> > Once upon a time, a company named GTE owned and operated an
> > 800 Mhz CDMA system in Florida (called Mobilnet). Also, a company named
> > Bell Atlantic partly owned and operated a 1900 Mhz CDMA system in
Florida
> > (called PrimeCo). Bell Atlantic and GTE fell in love and decided to get
> > married. Their married name is Verizon. Before the marriage, the FCC
> > told the young couple they could not own and operate two separate
cellular
> > systems in any given market area if they wanted to marry. They needed
to
> > divest of one of them. They talked it over and decided to sell the 800
> > Mhz CDMA Florida network to Alltel (who promptly renamed it ... Alltel).
> > They kept their PrimeCo network interest (and named it ... Verizon
> > Wireless). The former Mobilnet customers became Alltel customers. The
> > former PrimeCo customers became Verizon Wireless customers.
> >
> > The above happened only in areas where the merging companies owned two
> > separate cellular systems. In areas where that was not the case, they
> > simply renamed the existing system Verizon Wireless (regardless of
whether
> > it had formerly been Mobilnet or PrimeCo). Perhaps your California
> > friends fell into this second category.
> >
> > Also, notice I said they sold the NETWORK, not the BUILDINGS. That's
why
> > you see a Verizon sign where a Mobilnet sign once was in Tampa.
> >
> > As for the employees and stores in the Tampa area, you must distinguish
> > between the former GTE Mobilnet employees/stores, the former GTE
PhoneMart
> > employees/stores, and the former PrimeCo employees/stores. Here it gets
> > complicated, but suffice it to say that MOST former MobilNet employees
are
> > now Alltel employees. MOST former PhoneMart and PrimeCo employees are
now
> > Verizon employees. The individual stores were divvied up in a similar
> > fashion.
> >
> > If you still feel that I am "missing it", you're certainly welcome to
your
> > opinion; however, I suspect that I was much closer to these events than
> > were you.
> >
>
>

"Matt J. Britt" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> I live on the West Coast of FLA and use Verizon AC. I have no problems with
> my coverage... Rarely do I "Extended Network" or lose 1x signal...
>
> Just my 2 cents..
>
> Matt
>
>
> "Roy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:BBF0C4EE.29207%[email protected]...
> > On 12/1/03 10:09 AM, in article BBF0C3EF.29204%[email protected],
> > "Roy" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > On 12/1/03 9:06 AM, in article
> > > [email protected], "N9WOS"
> > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > >>>> Alltel provides 800Mhz service on the west side of Florida.
> > >>>> That's why people visiting Florida think that Verizon has good
> coverage
> > >>>> there.
> > >>>> They are roaming on Alltel.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> But the people that live there have to live with verizon's 1.9Ghz
> coverage.
> > >>>> They can't roam on Alltel.
> > >>>
> > >>> Why not? Are you suggesting that FL customers receive a different PRL
> > >>> than customers in other states? I highly doubt that.
> > >>
> > >> Normally local plans will be more restrictive.
> > >> Everyone doesn't have America's choice.
> > >> But I looked at the verizon web page and I see
> > >> that they seem to allow you to use Alltel on
> > >> the local plan.
> > >> I guess they do it's because of the pathetic
> > >> verizon coverage in Florida.
> > >>
> > >> All right............ Your win on that one........:-P
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > I am in Central Florida, and I got Altel when I recently downloaded the
> > > current PRL...before that it was not in my PRL so the addition is rather
> > > recent.
> > >
> >
> > Oops, I was in my last posting thinking of the recent addition of SPCS to
> my
> > PRL, not Altell. I have the additional digital roaming capability in
> > Orlando, and Altel is not in Orlando.
> >



To clarify the last statement Cingular is still 1900 TDMA in West
Florida (Tampa bay) so although they are most likely quite good in
Orlando with the old Bellsouth 850 system now overlayed with GSM in
Tampa, they are a lot like Verizon and Sprint.. 1900 Mhz.

And you may be wondering why you can use your VZW phone on Alltell network.
Because they come under the same umbrella. Alltell is an acquisition of VZW.
That is the answer in a nutshell.

Eve

"alahater" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Matt J. Britt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > I live on the West Coast of FLA and use Verizon AC. I have no problems
with
> > my coverage... Rarely do I "Extended Network" or lose 1x signal...
> >
> > Just my 2 cents..
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> > "Roy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:BBF0C4EE.29207%[email protected]...
> > > On 12/1/03 10:09 AM, in article
BBF0C3EF.29204%[email protected],
> > > "Roy" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > On 12/1/03 9:06 AM, in article
> > > > [email protected],
"N9WOS"
> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>>> Alltel provides 800Mhz service on the west side of Florida.
> > > >>>> That's why people visiting Florida think that Verizon has good
> > coverage
> > > >>>> there.
> > > >>>> They are roaming on Alltel.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> But the people that live there have to live with verizon's 1.9Ghz
> > coverage.
> > > >>>> They can't roam on Alltel.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Why not? Are you suggesting that FL customers receive a different
PRL
> > > >>> than customers in other states? I highly doubt that.
> > > >>
> > > >> Normally local plans will be more restrictive.
> > > >> Everyone doesn't have America's choice.
> > > >> But I looked at the verizon web page and I see
> > > >> that they seem to allow you to use Alltel on
> > > >> the local plan.
> > > >> I guess they do it's because of the pathetic
> > > >> verizon coverage in Florida.
> > > >>
> > > >> All right............ Your win on that one........:-P
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > I am in Central Florida, and I got Altel when I recently downloaded
the
> > > > current PRL...before that it was not in my PRL so the addition is
rather
> > > > recent.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Oops, I was in my last posting thinking of the recent addition of SPCS
to
> > my
> > > PRL, not Altell. I have the additional digital roaming capability in
> > > Orlando, and Altel is not in Orlando.
> > >
>
>
>
> To clarify the last statement Cingular is still 1900 TDMA in West
> Florida (Tampa bay) so although they are most likely quite good in
> Orlando with the old Bellsouth 850 system now overlayed with GSM in
> Tampa, they are a lot like Verizon and Sprint.. 1900 Mhz.

In alt.cellular.verizon S. Evelyn Jackson <[email protected]> wrote:
> And you may be wondering why you can use your VZW phone on Alltell network.
> Because they come under the same umbrella. Alltell is an acquisition of VZW.
> That is the answer in a nutshell.

That is a flat-out LIE.

Jesus, Evelyn.

Not only did Verizon NOT acquire Alltel, they have done a couple big
spectrum swaps because Verizon could not keep all of the markets they acquired
during the company's creation... my prime example is my hometown,
Cleveland, where I lived up until last June... Verizon Wireless was built from
a number of other carriers including AirTouch and GTE, and *both* AirTouch
and GTE sold cellular service in Cleveland. VZW could not hold on to both.
Therefore they kept AirTouch and re-branded it as Verizon Wireless, and they
sold the GTE network in Northeast Ohio to Alltel. It was a good fit, since
Alltel was already the landline service provider in many outlying areas east
and south of Cleveland anyhow.

Alltel continues to be a completely separate carrier operating out of Little
Rock, Arkansas. Verizon is headquartered in Bedminster, New Jersey and does
not own any part of Alltel.

Furthermore, Verizon probably doesn't want to own Alltel because Alltel's
focus is on smaller markets.

May I suggest something? Go educate yourself before making another post to
this group.

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Steven,

I had the same feeling when I read her uninformed posts, especially
when she said that calls to voice mail come out of M2M. That's why
I blocked her.

W.

"Steven J Sobol" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In alt.cellular.verizon S. Evelyn Jackson <[email protected]>
wrote:
> > And you may be wondering why you can use your VZW phone on
Alltell network.
> > Because they come under the same umbrella. Alltell is an
acquisition of VZW.
> > That is the answer in a nutshell.
>
> That is a flat-out LIE.
>
> Jesus, Evelyn.
>
> Not only did Verizon NOT acquire Alltel, they have done a couple
big
> spectrum swaps because Verizon could not keep all of the markets
they acquired
> during the company's creation... my prime example is my hometown,
> Cleveland, where I lived up until last June... Verizon Wireless
was built from
> a number of other carriers including AirTouch and GTE, and *both*
AirTouch
> and GTE sold cellular service in Cleveland. VZW could not hold on
to both.
> Therefore they kept AirTouch and re-branded it as Verizon
Wireless, and they
> sold the GTE network in Northeast Ohio to Alltel. It was a good
fit, since
> Alltel was already the landline service provider in many outlying
areas east
> and south of Cleveland anyhow.
>
> Alltel continues to be a completely separate carrier operating out
of Little
> Rock, Arkansas. Verizon is headquartered in Bedminster, New Jersey
and does
> not own any part of Alltel.
>
> Furthermore, Verizon probably doesn't want to own Alltel because
Alltel's
> focus is on smaller markets.
>
> May I suggest something? Go educate yourself before making another
post to
> this group.
>
> --
> JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services
> 22674 Motnocab Road * Apple Valley, CA 92307-1950
> Steve Sobol, Geek In Charge * 888.480.4NET (4638) *
[email protected]
>

Roy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BBF0C4EE.29207%[email protected]...
On 12/1/03 10:09 AM, in article
BBF0C3EF.29204%[email protected],
"Roy" <[email protected]> wrote:
On 12/1/03 9:06 AM, in article
[email protected],
<[email protected]> wrote:
"alahater" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
"Matt J. Britt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> "S. Evelyn Jackson" <[email protected]>
> wrote in message
news:ER%[email protected]...
> And you may be wondering why you can use your VZW phone on Alltell
network.
> Because they come under the same umbrella. Alltell is an acquisition of
VZW.
> That is the answer in a nutshell.
>
> Eve
>
AllTel is not, repeat, NOT under VZW. They are a whole DIFFERENT
company. AllTel IS however, a roaming partner of VZW
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Andrew D. Sisson