Need Rotary Dial Cellophone

If this is really that case, then I believe that a better solution would be
a Big-Button cell phone. Home phones are offered with big buttons, and
therefore cell phones should also be offered in this form factor. The
problem is that the cell phone would be very large and they cell phone
companies won't manufacture such a phone unless the market is large enough
for them to consider designing the phone.

"Dick C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Marty wrote in alt.cellular
>
>> Somewhere around Tue, 11 Jul 2006 23:47:54 -0500, while reading
>> alt.cellular, I think I thought I saw this post from [email protected]:
>>
>>>I should have said that I have 2 problems. I have arthritis and cant
>>>touch the right keys easily on a cellophone. I have very bad eyes
>>>too. I have a special keyboard with large letters on the keys. It
>>>still takes a long time to type. Phones cant wait for me to find the
>>>numbers. If i am slow they disconnect. My rotary phone is easy to use
>>>with large numbers glued on that I got at the senior center. Rotary
>>>phones are much easuier to use.
>>
>> So, are you saying that it's easier to place your finger inside a slot,
>> then move the rotary dial all the way around to the stop without
>> slipping, then it is to simply press a button? I'm sorry, but that's
>> unbelievable. I could see if you simply needed larger numbers and
>> buttons, but that's available for both home phones and cell phones;
>> especially for home phones, and not expensive. Using a rotary phone is
>> crazy, much harder, and makes absolutely no sense except for mechanical
>> switches that are no longer necessary.
>>
>> An what do you mean that phones can't wait? They don't connect until
>> you press the send key, so until then, they don't disconnect. My cell
>> phone will wait at least a few minutes between each press; the light may
>> time out, but as soon as I press the next button, it comes back on.
>>
>> Methinks you're just trying to get attention or yank our chains.
>
> You know, it is hard for older people to adapt to new technology.
> She has had a lifetime of using the old technology, but now she is
> being made to move to a new technology that she doesn't know, and
> is unsure of.
> I grew up using rotary dial phones, and I understand exactly what she
> is saying. While the act of dialing is harder, it is easier to find
> the numbers on the dial, and then to tell if you have actually dialed the
> number. Remember also, she is almost blind. She probably has the
> number position on her dial memorized, while she has to look at each
> number on the phone pad. Also, if her hands are shaky or unsteady it is
> very hard to hit the proper number, while with a dial she can simply
> put her hand on the phone to steady it, and then put her finger in the
> proper hole.
>
> --
> Dick #1349
> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
> ~Benjamin Franklin
>
> Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com
> email: [email protected]

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On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 15:55:45 -0500, [email protected] wrote:

>I have always had the same phone at home and its a rotary dial phone.
>Suddenly my children got me a cellophone and it has push button
>dialing. I can not understand how to operate any push button phone
>and besides that I just dont like them because I always dial the wrong
>number. Phones always had and still should have a rotary dialer. I
>told them that I will use the cellophone if they get a rotary kind.
>They said they dont know where to buy one. Where can they buy a
>cellophone with rotary dial?
>
>Granma K


Yes, and two screwholes to mount it on the wall, so you always know
where the ting IS...

On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 15:55:45 -0500, [email protected] wrote:

>I have always had the same phone at home and its a rotary dial phone.
>Suddenly my children got me a cellophone and it has push button
>dialing. I can not understand how to operate any push button phone
>and besides that I just dont like them because I always dial the wrong
>number. Phones always had and still should have a rotary dialer. I
>told them that I will use the cellophone if they get a rotary kind.
>They said they dont know where to buy one. Where can they buy a
>cellophone with rotary dial?
>
>Granma K


Hey come on ! modern cell phones are speech-activated. You cal TELL
them what to dial.

On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 09:29:52 -0700, "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]>
wrote:

>If this is really that case, then I believe that a better solution would be
>a Big-Button cell phone. Home phones are offered with big buttons, and
>therefore cell phones should also be offered in this form factor. The
>problem is that the cell phone would be very large and they cell phone
>companies won't manufacture such a phone unless the market is large enough
>for them to consider designing the phone.
>

Which means that the cellphone manufacturers are not even remotely
interested in selling their goods to the elderly. While it's true
that the younger generation are much more suited to using them, I
(being elderly), do own a cellphone. My phone is considered obsolete
these days, because it's only a phone. No web access, no messaging,
no camera, none of that stuff. I have no need for any of that junk.
I only own this thing to be used as a phone and nothing more. It's
mostly for emergencies and an occasional call when I am away from
home. I am forced to pay for all that other junk that I do not want,
yet these new phones all come with all that crap, and I do not want
any of it. It's too bad the industry has forgotten the elderly, who
are the persons that need a BASIC cellphone the most, just for
emergencies. I wish the dialing buttons were larger too, and would be
happy to have a larger phone so I could get the bigger buttons. I am
not one of these kids that carries that phone in my pocket and uses it
100 times a day. I put it on the car seat when I go places, and it's
there in case my car breaks down, or there is another emergency.
That's the only use I have for them. My only savings are the coins I
used to feed into a payphone before I owned this contraption. I still
wonder if it's worth the high price I pay to own it, but it's like
insurance, I pay and pay and pay, and some day I might need it.



>"Dick C" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Marty wrote in alt.cellular
>>
>>> Somewhere around Tue, 11 Jul 2006 23:47:54 -0500, while reading
>>> alt.cellular, I think I thought I saw this post from [email protected]:
>>>
>>>>I should have said that I have 2 problems. I have arthritis and cant
>>>>touch the right keys easily on a cellophone. I have very bad eyes
>>>>too. I have a special keyboard with large letters on the keys. It
>>>>still takes a long time to type. Phones cant wait for me to find the
>>>>numbers. If i am slow they disconnect. My rotary phone is easy to use
>>>>with large numbers glued on that I got at the senior center. Rotary
>>>>phones are much easuier to use.
>>>
>>> So, are you saying that it's easier to place your finger inside a slot,
>>> then move the rotary dial all the way around to the stop without
>>> slipping, then it is to simply press a button? I'm sorry, but that's
>>> unbelievable. I could see if you simply needed larger numbers and
>>> buttons, but that's available for both home phones and cell phones;
>>> especially for home phones, and not expensive. Using a rotary phone is
>>> crazy, much harder, and makes absolutely no sense except for mechanical
>>> switches that are no longer necessary.
>>>
>>> An what do you mean that phones can't wait? They don't connect until
>>> you press the send key, so until then, they don't disconnect. My cell
>>> phone will wait at least a few minutes between each press; the light may
>>> time out, but as soon as I press the next button, it comes back on.
>>>
>>> Methinks you're just trying to get attention or yank our chains.
>>
>> You know, it is hard for older people to adapt to new technology.
>> She has had a lifetime of using the old technology, but now she is
>> being made to move to a new technology that she doesn't know, and
>> is unsure of.
>> I grew up using rotary dial phones, and I understand exactly what she
>> is saying. While the act of dialing is harder, it is easier to find
>> the numbers on the dial, and then to tell if you have actually dialed the
>> number. Remember also, she is almost blind. She probably has the
>> number position on her dial memorized, while she has to look at each
>> number on the phone pad. Also, if her hands are shaky or unsteady it is
>> very hard to hit the proper number, while with a dial she can simply
>> put her hand on the phone to steady it, and then put her finger in the
>> proper hole.
>>
>> --
>> Dick #1349
>> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
>> ~Benjamin Franklin
>>
>> Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com
>> email: [email protected]
>

wrote in alt.cellular

> On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 09:29:52 -0700, "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>If this is really that case, then I believe that a better solution would
>>be a Big-Button cell phone. Home phones are offered with big buttons,
>>and therefore cell phones should also be offered in this form factor.
>>The problem is that the cell phone would be very large and they cell
>>phone companies won't manufacture such a phone unless the market is
>>large enough for them to consider designing the phone.
>>
>
> Which means that the cellphone manufacturers are not even remotely
> interested in selling their goods to the elderly. While it's true
> that the younger generation are much more suited to using them, I
> (being elderly), do own a cellphone. My phone is considered obsolete
> these days, because it's only a phone. No web access, no messaging,
> no camera, none of that stuff. I have no need for any of that junk.
> I only own this thing to be used as a phone and nothing more. It's
> mostly for emergencies and an occasional call when I am away from
> home. I am forced to pay for all that other junk that I do not want,
> yet these new phones all come with all that crap, and I do not want
> any of it. It's too bad the industry has forgotten the elderly, who
> are the persons that need a BASIC cellphone the most, just for
> emergencies. I wish the dialing buttons were larger too, and would be
> happy to have a larger phone so I could get the bigger buttons. I am
> not one of these kids that carries that phone in my pocket and uses it
> 100 times a day. I put it on the car seat when I go places, and it's
> there in case my car breaks down, or there is another emergency.
> That's the only use I have for them. My only savings are the coins I
> used to feed into a payphone before I owned this contraption. I still
> wonder if it's worth the high price I pay to own it, but it's like
> insurance, I pay and pay and pay, and some day I might need it.

I agree with you. I have always thought that the carriers should all have
a simple, basic, cell phone. One that only worked as a phone, not as an
addressbook, although being able to scroll down and get a phone number is
nice. Not a game machine, not a computer, or a web browser, but a simple
basic phone. One button to answer a call, and push it again to hang up.
Large keys and a large simple screen to see the number you are dialing.
But, just like all tech companies, if the cell phone manufacturer has
the capacity to put something into the phone, they will.
One argument I have heard is that the companies would make no money, but
the carriers give phones away free anyway, just to sign you up on a plan.
Why should this be any different?
Of course, we can still buy the high end toys all we want, it just that
alot of people are not interested in them.


--
Dick #1349
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
~Benjamin Franklin

Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com
email: [email protected]

[email protected] wrote:

> They said they dont know where to buy one. Where can they buy a
> cellophone with rotary dial?

These are available for GSM.

See "http://www.sparkfun.com/tutorial/Port-O-Rotary/portable-rotary.htm"

This is the only one available, AFAIK.

Somewhere around Tue, 25 Jul 2006 14:05:13 -0500, while reading
alt.cellular, I think I thought I saw this post from geezer88@_yahoo_.com:

>On Thu, 13 Jul 2006 09:29:52 -0700, "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>If this is really that case, then I believe that a better solution would be
>>a Big-Button cell phone. Home phones are offered with big buttons, and
>>therefore cell phones should also be offered in this form factor. The
>>problem is that the cell phone would be very large and they cell phone
>>companies won't manufacture such a phone unless the market is large enough
>>for them to consider designing the phone.
>>
>
>Which means that the cellphone manufacturers are not even remotely
>interested in selling their goods to the elderly. While it's true
>that the younger generation are much more suited to using them, I
>(being elderly), do own a cellphone. My phone is considered obsolete
>these days, because it's only a phone. No web access, no messaging,
>no camera, none of that stuff. I have no need for any of that junk.
>I only own this thing to be used as a phone and nothing more. It's
>mostly for emergencies and an occasional call when I am away from
>home. I am forced to pay for all that other junk that I do not want,
>yet these new phones all come with all that crap, and I do not want
>any of it. It's too bad the industry has forgotten the elderly, who
>are the persons that need a BASIC cellphone the most, just for
>emergencies. I wish the dialing buttons were larger too, and would be
>happy to have a larger phone so I could get the bigger buttons. I am
>not one of these kids that carries that phone in my pocket and uses it
>100 times a day. I put it on the car seat when I go places, and it's
>there in case my car breaks down, or there is another emergency.
>That's the only use I have for them. My only savings are the coins I
>used to feed into a payphone before I owned this contraption. I still
>wonder if it's worth the high price I pay to own it, but it's like
>insurance, I pay and pay and pay, and some day I might need it.

If you truly only need a phone for real emergencies, then you don't need to
pay anything. Modern cellphones will work for 911 emergencies without
activation or sim cards.

If you need it for other lesser emergencies, then you need a calling plan,
but you don't need to use it for internet, etc. However, calling it "junk"
is demeaning to people who want and use these features. You can't really
expect the providers to have custom plans for everyone's personal
preferences; if they did, the cheap plan would probably cost more than the
full plan does now. My first cell phone cost more for simple phone calls
than my fancy plan does now. It's cheaper to make one phone with everything
than different configurations of phones, anyway.

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