Wired Magazine: iPhone Is Almost Perfect

Todd Allcock wrote:
> "4phun" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:d7a12795-5d72-4c9f-
> [email protected]...
> On Sep 24, 12:57 pm, "Carl" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Why would any reasonable person buy a battery extender for an Apple
>> device that uses a wire?
>
> For the economy and future reusability. I HATE proprietary anything,
> so my external battery extenders terminate in a female USB socket,
> allowing me to use it with any product that charges via USB, be it my
> phone, my Zunes, iPods or anything else (with the product's regular
> charging cable.) When you've moved onto the next small shiny object,
> and need the external proprietary clip-on pack for it, I'll still
> have my good ol' external USB charger. Most of the svelte clip on
> batteries (over the back, rather than the bottom) Oxford used to flog
> for iPhone Mark 1 (to deflect the numerous complaints about ITS lousy
> battery life) didn't even fit the 3G!
>
>> All the neat ones are little slim objects that clip to the bottom of
>> the iPhone or what ever, and add maybe two inches to its total
>> length.
>
> Funny how any device even 1 micron larger than the iPhone in any
> dimension is a "brick"- unless, of course, it's an iPhone with an
> attachment. If I had said I plugged a two-inch long battery extender
> to the bottom of my WinMo phone you'd still be laughing about it!
>
>> They are as cheap as $20 and make more sense then carrying extra
>> batteries that go inside a thicker phone where you have to remove a
>> battery cover to place them inside. Then you have to worry about
>> loosing the battery cover or breaking it and hoping there is
>> somewhere on the internet you can buy and expensive replacement.
>
> My extra Tilt battery is thin and fits inside my wallet. I carry it
> just
> on days when I know access to charging will be unlikely.
>
> Changing the battery takes 20 seconds- how likely am I going to lose
> or break the cover in those 20 seconds? It's not like the extra
> internal battery needs it's own cover to carry with it.
>
> And, when I've swapped the batteries, my phone is the same size as it
> was before. How long does your dromedary hump pack need to be
> attached to recharge the dead battery?
>
>> The iPhone design is more like the ham radios and public safety
>> radios with the clip on battery packs.
>
> No, it isn't- those devices have a quick method to REMOVE a depleted
> battery and REPLACE it with a charged one, and a cradle to charge the
> just- removed depleted one while the spare is in use. The iPhone is
> reliant on
> an external battery back (clipped or wired- it doesn't matter for this
> discussion) that doesn't even power the phone directly, but instead,
> inefficiently recharges the dead battery still in place! It's the
> difference between a heart transplant, and sewing a healthy heart
> inline with the sick one!
>
>> Pulling a battery cover and dropping a custom battery inside is
>> really low end consumer crap.
>
> But soldering that same custom battery in place so 90% of consumers
> can't change it themselves when it wears out is high end? I'll take
> low-end, then, thanks!
>
> Just when I'm convinced you and Oxford are different people, you come
> out with some delusional nonsense rationalization for a stupid design
> decision that's worthy of taking the Stupid Excuse Award from Oxy's
> 2007 winner "Flash Eats Batteries" in the "Reality Distortion Field"
> Hall of Fame. Lost/broken battery covers? External clip on battery
> packs are "high end"?
>
> I've had different cellphones and PDAs of each design, and the
> ability to hot swap a low or dead battery trumps a sleek and stylish
> seamless case ANY DAY, unless you use the device as a fashion
> accessory, and not to get any real work done.
>
>
>> There is nothing geek about the real Apple device and the real snap
>> on battery packs as it smacks of high end design like all rugged
>> commercial radios.
>
> No, it smacks of a Hong Kong drop-shipped eBay kludge. Having the
> battery integrated into the rear case that slides of/on as an
> assembly (like most Motorola cellphones) "smacks of rugged commercial
> radio design." User- replaceable battery packs in a HIGH-DRAIN device
> smacks of practical
> design. Ever see a digital camera with a soldered in non replaceable
> battery? Of course not. It works in an old iPod because they'll run
> 20 hours of use on a single charge- a modern-era smartphone won't.
>
>> I don't know where you found that piece of junk for you iTouch but
>> you got taken, probably by someone who designs low end.
>
> Nice touch- finish with the snob-on-high insult. That's an Oxford
> line if
> I ever heard one. You just need to finish with a trademark Oxford
> "redemption possibility" for the insulted party, to seal the deal-
> like "someday, when you understand the difference between trash and
> fine design, you'll purchase the proper accessories."
>
Well said as usual. All points covered- nothing left for me to say. 4phun
sounds like an 18 year old kid when he writes: they know much less than they
think they do and their brains aren't fully formed yet so their judgement is
impaired.

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"Larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Carl" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> 4phun
>> sounds like an 18 year old kid when he writes: they know much less
>> than they think they do and their brains aren't fully formed yet so
>> their judgement is impaired.
>>
>
> Born 1945
>
> From his FCC ham license data. Hell, he's OLDER than I am!
>
> Vic! When you gonna upgrade to No Code EXTRA?!!
>

If he gave you the correct lic number.

With all this cut and paste he does, we all know he sure is not doing it
from his iPhone.

Todd Allcock wrote:
> "4phun" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:d7a12795-5d72-4c9f-
> [email protected]...
> On Sep 24, 12:57 pm, "Carl" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Why would any reasonable person buy a battery extender for an Apple
>> device that uses a wire?
>
> For the economy and future reusability. I HATE proprietary anything, so my
> external battery extenders terminate in a female USB socket, allowing me to
> use it with any product that charges via USB, be it my phone, my Zunes,

Wow, Microsoft sold at least two Zunes.

At 25 Sep 2008 12:21:47 -0700 SMS wrote:
> > For the economy and future reusability. I HATE proprietary anything,
so my
> > external battery extenders terminate in a female USB socket, allowing
me to
> > use it with any product that charges via USB, be it my phone, my Zunes,
>
> Wow, Microsoft sold at least two Zunes.
They sold a ton of them, after slashing the price below cost last
Christmas! It was hard to pass up a 30GB media player for $99- even one as
hopelessly crippled as the Zune!

"We lose money on every unit we sell, but make it up with volume!"

Larry wrote:
> "Carl" <[email protected]> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> 4phun
>> sounds like an 18 year old kid when he writes: they know much less
>> than they think they do and their brains aren't fully formed yet so
>> their judgement is impaired.
>>
>
> Born 1945
>
> From his FCC ham license data. Hell, he's OLDER than I am!
>
> Vic! When you gonna upgrade to No Code EXTRA?!!
>
Ha! He's older than me too. By the way, I'm a ham too. Extra Class (WITH
code). Been a ham since about 1962. I am totally inactive now since the
demise of 2-meter fm, though I retain my position as a director on the board
of a local repeater group.

"Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote in newsHPCk.1731
[email protected]:

> If he gave you the correct lic number.
>
> With all this cut and paste he does, we all know he sure is not doing it
> from his iPhone.
>
>
>

Go to www.qrz.com
Look down the left column for "Name Search"
Put in Vic Healey
Out pops his ham call and all the data from the FCC database, name,
address, grid square location of the station, license information, etc.

He lives in Marietta, GA. He's legit.

"Carl" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Ha! He's older than me too. By the way, I'm a ham too. Extra Class
> (WITH code). Been a ham since about 1962. I am totally inactive now
> since the demise of 2-meter fm, though I retain my position as a
> director on the board of a local repeater group.
>
>

No Crothman listed on the FCC database. You didn't let it lapse did you?