Cingular's Business Practises

I just got fired by Cingular customer service, [temp, handling country-wide
calls after hours] in Georgia - no reason given so far. I was honest when I
talked with customers, had excellent reviews and followed Cingular's arcane
rules to the letter - if anyone from Cingular, GA is monitoring this; think
PomPoms - they manage by intimidation, encourage employees to lie - I have
refused to play "manager" to callers while other employees on my level have
gleefully accepted that role. I was offered a full-time job in writing and
fired 48 hours later having worked my assigned shifts, with no errors or
offences.
No reason given.

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In article <[email protected]>,
"Andrew Fraser" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I just got fired by Cingular customer service, [temp, handling country-wide
> calls after hours] in Georgia - no reason given so far.

No, you weren't fired. You were a temp. Temps aren't fired. Your
services were no longer needed, but you weren't fired.

> No, you weren't fired. You were a temp. Temps aren't fired. Your
> services were no longer needed, but you weren't fired.
>

From reading the OP, he was not a temp. when he was fired. -Dave

Guy, sounds like you need to learn diplomacy. Don't say "**** stinks"; say
"I apologize your service is having trouble". We all know Cingular has
trouble. But you need to be part of the system to help us in the system.
It's a tough job, Andrew.

"Andrew Fraser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I just got fired by Cingular customer service, [temp, handling
country-wide
> calls after hours] in Georgia - no reason given so far. I was honest when
I
> talked with customers, had excellent reviews and followed Cingular's
arcane
> rules to the letter - if anyone from Cingular, GA is monitoring this;
think
> PomPoms - they manage by intimidation, encourage employees to lie - I have
> refused to play "manager" to callers while other employees on my level
have
> gleefully accepted that role. I was offered a full-time job in writing and
> fired 48 hours later having worked my assigned shifts, with no errors or
> offences.
> No reason given.
>
>

If you were 'fired' without proper reason than you have cause for an
improper termination lawsuit. If you weren't, and are just upset, then you
don't.

So... how about a put up or shut up, eh?

"Andrew Fraser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I just got fired by Cingular customer service, [temp, handling
country-wide
> calls after hours] in Georgia - no reason given so far. I was honest when
I
> talked with customers, had excellent reviews and followed Cingular's
arcane
> rules to the letter - if anyone from Cingular, GA is monitoring this;
think
> PomPoms - they manage by intimidation, encourage employees to lie - I have
> refused to play "manager" to callers while other employees on my level
have
> gleefully accepted that role. I was offered a full-time job in writing and
> fired 48 hours later having worked my assigned shifts, with no errors or
> offences.
> No reason given.
>
>

"Jason White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> If you were 'fired' without proper reason than you have cause for an
> improper termination lawsuit. If you weren't, and are just upset, then you
> don't.
>
> So... how about a put up or shut up, eh?

Under the employment-at-will doctrine an employee can be fired for "good
reason, bad reason, or no reason". The employment-at-will doctrine
prevails in the U.S. unless the firing is a civil rights violation (i.e.,
motivated by the employee's race, religion, ethnicity, sex, etc.) or the
employer promised a job for life at the time of hiring. Unless Mr. Fraser
was fired because he's a Scotsman or Cingular assured him he could work
there forever no matter what, he does not likely have a cause of action.
-- Cary


>
> "Andrew Fraser" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I just got fired by Cingular customer service, [temp, handling
> country-wide
> > calls after hours] in Georgia - no reason given so far. I was honest
when
> I
> > talked with customers, had excellent reviews and followed Cingular's
> arcane
> > rules to the letter - if anyone from Cingular, GA is monitoring this;
> think
> > PomPoms - they manage by intimidation, encourage employees to lie - I
have
> > refused to play "manager" to callers while other employees on my level
> have
> > gleefully accepted that role. I was offered a full-time job in writing
and
> > fired 48 hours later having worked my assigned shifts, with no errors or
> > offences.
> > No reason given.
> >
> >
>
>

"Jason White" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
| If you were 'fired' without proper reason than you have cause for an
| improper termination lawsuit. If you weren't, and are just upset, then you
| don't.
|

He stated he was a temp. No reason needed. Now if the offer was in writing
for a full-time position, then they would have to have a reason to not honor
that position, but as far as the current termination, it's just an end of
services needed deal.

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 20:27:49 GMT, "Jason White"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>If you were 'fired' without proper reason than you have cause for an
>improper termination lawsuit.

Not if Georgia is an "at will" employment state...

--
A lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part.

> Under the employment-at-will doctrine an employee can be fired for "good
> reason, bad reason, or no reason".

I may stand corrected then. Is this doctrine a signed contract with the
employer or is it a given with employement? If it is a signed agreement then
he has no reason to complain. If it is just a "given" I would take care to
be sure you have some type of assurance that you wont be "dismissed" without
due cause again.

In article <[email protected]>,
"Jason White" <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Under the employment-at-will doctrine an employee can be fired for "good
> > reason, bad reason, or no reason".
>
> I may stand corrected then. Is this doctrine a signed contract with the
> employer or is it a given with employement?

It's a given.

No one is OWED a job under any circumstances. One is employed at the
will of the company. Similarly, the company get the employee at the
will of the employee. In other words, the employee can quit with no
notice. It's fair on both sides.

One may enter into a contract with the employer, in which case contract
law applies.