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  1. #1
    Theo Markettos
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    At the beginning of September Vodafone moved most of their PAYG customers
    onto the 'Simply' price plan, where Simply='more expensive'. This is a
    particularly bad deal if you're on Stop The Clock, because it's just doubled
    the cost of your StC calls.

    This is just a quick reminder that you can switch back to Anynet before the
    end of the month. It's simple and free - just dial 2345, options 3, 2, 1,
    and 1. Haven't tested it yet but I'm now back on the Anynet plan.

    Theo



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  2. #2
    Andy Pandy
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    Re: Vodafone PAYG switch price plan reminder


    "Theo Markettos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:7xt*[email protected]...
    > At the beginning of September Vodafone moved most of their PAYG customers
    > onto the 'Simply' price plan, where Simply='more expensive'. This is a
    > particularly bad deal if you're on Stop The Clock, because it's just doubled
    > the cost of your StC calls.


    I thought they'd stopped STC with the new tariff?

    They never moved my wife's - still on the old SmartPlus tariff which is
    unbeatable for her usage.

    But the new tariff is just bonkers, the same structure as everyone else's but
    much more expensive. Why would anyone sign up for the Simply tariff when Asda is
    less than half the price on the same network?

    --
    Andy





  3. #3
    Theo Markettos
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    Re: Vodafone PAYG switch price plan reminder

    Andy Pandy <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > "Theo Markettos" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:7xt*[email protected]...
    > > At the beginning of September Vodafone moved most of their PAYG
    > > customers onto the 'Simply' price plan, where Simply='more expensive'.
    > > This is a particularly bad deal if you're on Stop The Clock, because
    > > it's just doubled the cost of your StC calls.

    >
    > I thought they'd stopped STC with the new tariff?


    Only for new customers. If you signed up for STC before 1st September then
    you can keep it. The recording says I'm on 'Anynet with Stop The Clock'. I
    think it said 'Simply with STC' before I changed back.

    > They never moved my wife's - still on the old SmartPlus tariff which is
    > unbeatable for her usage.


    I think they said it was only Anytime and Anynet people who got moved...

    > But the new tariff is just bonkers, the same structure as everyone else's
    > but much more expensive. Why would anyone sign up for the Simply tariff
    > when Asda is less than half the price on the same network?


    You might well ask...

    Theo



  4. #4
    alexd
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    Re: Vodafone PAYG switch price plan reminder

    On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:05:17 +0100, Theo Markettos wrote:

    > Andy Pandy <[email protected]> wrote:


    >> But the new tariff is just bonkers, the same structure as everyone
    >> else's but much more expensive. Why would anyone sign up for the Simply
    >> tariff when Asda is less than half the price on the same network?

    >
    > You might well ask...


    Perhaps they're outsourcing their PAYG operation to ASDA by stealth?

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  5. #5
    Steve Terry
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    Re: Vodafone PAYG switch price plan reminder


    "alexd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:05:17 +0100, Theo Markettos wrote:
    >
    >> Andy Pandy <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >>> But the new tariff is just bonkers, the same structure as everyone
    >>> else's but much more expensive. Why would anyone sign up for the Simply
    >>> tariff when Asda is less than half the price on the same network?

    >>
    >> You might well ask...

    >
    > Perhaps they're outsourcing their PAYG operation to ASDA by stealth?
    >







  6. #6
    Steve Terry
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    Re: Vodafone PAYG switch price plan reminder

    "alexd" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 16:05:17 +0100, Theo Markettos wrote:
    >
    >> Andy Pandy <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >>> But the new tariff is just bonkers, the same structure as everyone
    >>> else's but much more expensive. Why would anyone sign up for the Simply
    >>> tariff when Asda is less than half the price on the same network?

    >>
    >> You might well ask...

    >
    > Perhaps they're outsourcing their PAYG operation to ASDA by stealth?
    >
    >

    Orange outsourced their PAYG until 1996 when they realised it was
    as if not more of a money maker than Contract.

    Voda would have to be Nuts to outsource a money spinner like PAYG

    What they have discovered, as have all the networks, is that PAYG
    punters are too stupid to ask why they pay more for the real network

    Steve Terry









  7. #7
    Andy Pandy
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    Re: Vodafone PAYG switch price plan reminder


    "Steve Terry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > >>> But the new tariff is just bonkers, the same structure as everyone
    > >>> else's but much more expensive. Why would anyone sign up for the Simply
    > >>> tariff when Asda is less than half the price on the same network?
    > >>
    > >> You might well ask...

    > >
    > > Perhaps they're outsourcing their PAYG operation to ASDA by stealth?
    > >
    > >

    > Orange outsourced their PAYG until 1996 when they realised it was
    > as if not more of a money maker than Contract.
    >
    > Voda would have to be Nuts to outsource a money spinner like PAYG
    >
    > What they have discovered, as have all the networks, is that PAYG
    > punters are too stupid to ask why they pay more for the real network


    Voda took their time discovering it then.

    Mind you I'd wager the average contract user who pays for a set number of
    minutes every month whether they use them or not is more stupid than the average
    PAYG user.

    --
    Andy





  8. #8
    {{{{{Welcome}}}}}
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    Re: Vodafone PAYG switch price plan reminder

    "Andy Pandy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Steve Terry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> >>> But the new tariff is just bonkers, the same structure as everyone
    >> >>> else's but much more expensive. Why would anyone sign up for the
    >> >>> Simply
    >> >>> tariff when Asda is less than half the price on the same network?
    >> >>
    >> >> You might well ask...
    >> >
    >> > Perhaps they're outsourcing their PAYG operation to ASDA by stealth?
    >> >
    >> >

    >> Orange outsourced their PAYG until 1996 when they realised it was
    >> as if not more of a money maker than Contract.
    >>
    >> Voda would have to be Nuts to outsource a money spinner like PAYG
    >>
    >> What they have discovered, as have all the networks, is that PAYG
    >> punters are too stupid to ask why they pay more for the real network

    >
    > Voda took their time discovering it then.
    >
    > Mind you I'd wager the average contract user who pays for a set number of
    > minutes every month whether they use them or not is more stupid than the
    > average
    > PAYG user.
    >



    Too right, I spend less than £1.50 per month on my mobile, some months a lot
    less - now it would be me that is stupid for going on a contract. I have
    been on a contract in the past, but that was before PAYG came about.

    I've seen people pay £25 - £35 each and every month, yet hardly use their
    phone - they don't use the landline as they say "I have xx minutes, I'll use
    my mobile - it saves me money" - Yeah right - shows how thick they are.




  9. #9
    Steve Terry
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    Re: Vodafone PAYG switch price plan reminder


    "{{{{{Welcome}}}}}" <bhx___spam@trapped___hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > "Andy Pandy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >>
    >> "Steve Terry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >> news:[email protected]...
    >>> >>> But the new tariff is just bonkers, the same structure as everyone
    >>> >>> else's but much more expensive. Why would anyone sign up for the
    >>> >>> Simply
    >>> >>> tariff when Asda is less than half the price on the same network?
    >>> >>
    >>> >> You might well ask...
    >>> >
    >>> > Perhaps they're outsourcing their PAYG operation to ASDA by stealth?
    >>> >
    >>> >
    >>> Orange outsourced their PAYG until 1996 when they realised it was
    >>> as if not more of a money maker than Contract.
    >>>
    >>> Voda would have to be Nuts to outsource a money spinner like PAYG
    >>>
    >>> What they have discovered, as have all the networks, is that PAYG
    >>> punters are too stupid to ask why they pay more for the real network

    >>
    >> Voda took their time discovering it then.
    >>
    >> Mind you I'd wager the average contract user who pays for a set number of
    >> minutes every month whether they use them or not is more stupid than the
    >> average
    >> PAYG user.

    >
    > Too right, I spend less than £1.50 per month on my mobile, some months a
    > lot less - now it would be me that is stupid for going on a contract. I
    > have been on a contract in the past, but that was before PAYG came about.
    >

    The you are a low user and PATG is all you need
    >
    > I've seen people pay £25 - £35 each and every month, yet hardly use their
    > phone - they don't use the landline as they say "I have xx minutes, I'll
    > use my mobile - it saves me money" - Yeah right - shows how thick they
    > are.

    For which they'll get a top phone included, so their tariff covers the cost
    of that,
    the mins are a bonus.

    Steve Terry






  10. #10
    Andy Pandy
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    Re: Vodafone PAYG switch price plan reminder


    "Steve Terry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > >>> >>> But the new tariff is just bonkers, the same structure as everyone
    > >>> >>> else's but much more expensive. Why would anyone sign up for the
    > >>> >>> Simply
    > >>> >>> tariff when Asda is less than half the price on the same network?
    > >>> >>
    > >>> >> You might well ask...
    > >>> >
    > >>> > Perhaps they're outsourcing their PAYG operation to ASDA by stealth?
    > >>> >
    > >>> >
    > >>> Orange outsourced their PAYG until 1996 when they realised it was
    > >>> as if not more of a money maker than Contract.
    > >>>
    > >>> Voda would have to be Nuts to outsource a money spinner like PAYG
    > >>>
    > >>> What they have discovered, as have all the networks, is that PAYG
    > >>> punters are too stupid to ask why they pay more for the real network
    > >>
    > >> Voda took their time discovering it then.
    > >>
    > >> Mind you I'd wager the average contract user who pays for a set number of
    > >> minutes every month whether they use them or not is more stupid than the
    > >> average
    > >> PAYG user.

    > >
    > > Too right, I spend less than £1.50 per month on my mobile, some months a
    > > lot less - now it would be me that is stupid for going on a contract. I
    > > have been on a contract in the past, but that was before PAYG came about.
    > >

    > The you are a low user and PATG is all you need


    Most PAYG users are low users. Even many medium users would probably be better
    off

    > > I've seen people pay £25 - £35 each and every month, yet hardly use their
    > > phone - they don't use the landline as they say "I have xx minutes, I'll
    > > use my mobile - it saves me money" - Yeah right - shows how thick they
    > > are.

    > For which they'll get a top phone included, so their tariff covers the cost
    > of that,
    > the mins are a bonus.


    Anyone who spends £450-£630 (18x above rates - 18 month contracts seem typical
    these days) on a phone they "hardly use" is indeed "thick".

    Unless they have a good cashback deal and can be arsed jumping through all the
    necessary hoops, but these seem to be drying up these days.

    --
    Andy





  11. #11
    Dennis Ferguson
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    Re: Vodafone PAYG switch price plan reminder

    On 2008-09-28, Andy Pandy <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > "Steve Terry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    >> >>> But the new tariff is just bonkers, the same structure as everyone
    >> >>> else's but much more expensive. Why would anyone sign up for the Simply
    >> >>> tariff when Asda is less than half the price on the same network?
    >> >>
    >> >> You might well ask...
    >> >
    >> > Perhaps they're outsourcing their PAYG operation to ASDA by stealth?
    >> >
    >> >

    >> Orange outsourced their PAYG until 1996 when they realised it was
    >> as if not more of a money maker than Contract.
    >>
    >> Voda would have to be Nuts to outsource a money spinner like PAYG
    >>
    >> What they have discovered, as have all the networks, is that PAYG
    >> punters are too stupid to ask why they pay more for the real network

    >
    > Voda took their time discovering it then.
    >
    > Mind you I'd wager the average contract user who pays for a set number of
    > minutes every month whether they use them or not is more stupid than the average
    > PAYG user.


    You don't need to use all the minutes your monthly plan includes, you
    just need to use enough of them that you are better off than the
    alternatives.

    If the alternative is Vodafone PAYG, in particular, then you don't
    have to use very many minutes at all to the smart. If you make
    5 minutes of calls per day then you'd be smarter if you were
    on the £25 SIM-only monthly plan with unlimited landline + 700 minutes
    of calls, leaving 90% of the minutes unused every month, than you would
    be paying the £30 per month it would cost to make those calls with
    Vodafone PAYG.

    Dennis Ferguson



  12. #12
    Andy Pandy
    Guest

    Re: Vodafone PAYG switch price plan reminder


    "Dennis Ferguson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > >> >>> But the new tariff is just bonkers, the same structure as everyone
    > >> >>> else's but much more expensive. Why would anyone sign up for the Simply
    > >> >>> tariff when Asda is less than half the price on the same network?
    > >> >>
    > >> >> You might well ask...
    > >> >
    > >> > Perhaps they're outsourcing their PAYG operation to ASDA by stealth?
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >> Orange outsourced their PAYG until 1996 when they realised it was
    > >> as if not more of a money maker than Contract.
    > >>
    > >> Voda would have to be Nuts to outsource a money spinner like PAYG
    > >>
    > >> What they have discovered, as have all the networks, is that PAYG
    > >> punters are too stupid to ask why they pay more for the real network

    > >
    > > Voda took their time discovering it then.
    > >
    > > Mind you I'd wager the average contract user who pays for a set number of
    > > minutes every month whether they use them or not is more stupid than the

    average
    > > PAYG user.

    >
    > You don't need to use all the minutes your monthly plan includes, you
    > just need to use enough of them that you are better off than the
    > alternatives.
    >
    > If the alternative is Vodafone PAYG, in particular, then you don't
    > have to use very many minutes at all to the smart.


    On the new Simply tariff, then yes, it's crazy as I've been saying.

    SmartPlus is a different story - no contract (or even other PAYG) can beat that
    for my wife's usage.

    > If you make
    > 5 minutes of calls per day then you'd be smarter if you were
    > on the £25 SIM-only monthly plan with unlimited landline + 700 minutes
    > of calls, leaving 90% of the minutes unused every month, than you would
    > be paying the £30 per month it would cost to make those calls with
    > Vodafone PAYG.


    Indeed - but the choice for anyone considering their options now won't just be
    restricted to Vodafone's offerings. Asda PAYG for the above usage would be £12 a
    month.

    --
    Andy





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