The great iPhone hunt of 2007

"Kier" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:14:13 +0000, Bert Hyman wrote:
>
>> In news:[email protected] [email protected] (Geoff
>> Miller) wrote:
>>
>>> What I don't understand about the whole iPod/Walkman/Discman
>>> phenomenon is why so many people feel the need to listen to
>>> music so much of the time.
>>
>> Since this is cross-posted to a couple of cellphone-related newsgroups,
>> I guess it's OK for me to express my curiosity about why so many
>> people feel the need to be on the phone talking to somebody so much of
>> the time.
>
> Hey, don't feel you have to excuse getting into this.
>
>>
>> Kids I can understand; hanging on the landline phone was common long
>> before the advent of the cellphone.
>>
>> Adults however, they're a different story, aren't they?
>
> Personally, I don't realy enjoy talking on the phone. I like to speak to
> people I can see.
>
> I suppose it's just an extension of the usual yakking everyone does, not
> just kids, this new trend. Gues I must be just an old dinosaur type.
>
Chuckle. The one that makes me shake my head is people yakking on cells in
the frigging grocery store. Not 'honey, what was that you told me not to
forget?' calls, just yakking. Can they not go 20 ninutes with only their own
thoughts, paying attention to the task at hand?

aem sends....

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On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:13:58 +0000, Geoff Miller wrote:

>
>
> Kier <[email protected]> writes:
>
> : Yeah, it's got to suck, considering how many of them have been
> : sold.
>
>> I certainly don't think the iPod sucks.
>
> I was being sarcastic.

Yeah, I did get that :-)

>
>
>> They're extremely well-designed items, very attractive physically,
>> and easy to use.
>
> I think so, too. I personally don't care to own one, but I can
> appreciate the quality of their conception and design.

Likewise.

>
>
>> Depending on circumstance, I find music helps the thought process.
>> As I don't drive, I travel on buses a fair bit, and the combination
>> of riding the bus and listening to music really helps my imagination
>> to flow freely.
>
> I can see how that would be true when using public transportation.

Cuts out peole nattering, for one. I don't mind hearing the conversations
of others, but they distract me, as I start following along, getting
interested in what they're talking about <grin>

>
> Driving a car is different, at least to me. Music once in a while
> is good. Mostly, though, I find it distracting. I'm usually happy
> just to listen to the sound of the wind and the tires. I don't
> understand people who have to have music whenever they're in a car.
> I've actually had passengers who squirmed with visible discomfort
> when I failed to turn on the radio.
>
>
>> (follow-ups set to COLA, as I don't read the other groups)
>
> Well, other people who are following this thread do. Myself
> among them (I'm reading this in misc.consumers.)
>

Difficult, ain't it? I'll leave out follow-ups if you like, but I'll
probably get blasted by someone for cross-posting. But what the hell...

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Kier

On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:14:13 +0000, Bert Hyman wrote:

> In news:[email protected] [email protected] (Geoff
> Miller) wrote:
>
>> What I don't understand about the whole iPod/Walkman/Discman
>> phenomenon is why so many people feel the need to listen to
>> music so much of the time.
>
> Since this is cross-posted to a couple of cellphone-related newsgroups,
> I guess it's OK for me to express my curiosity about why so many
> people feel the need to be on the phone talking to somebody so much of
> the time.

Hey, don't feel you have to excuse getting into this.

>
> Kids I can understand; hanging on the landline phone was common long
> before the advent of the cellphone.
>
> Adults however, they're a different story, aren't they?

Personally, I don't realy enjoy talking on the phone. I like to speak to
people I can see.

I suppose it's just an extension of the usual yakking everyone does, not
just kids, this new trend. Gues I must be just an old dinosaur type.

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Kier

On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 10:45:28 -0500, Justin wrote:

> Geoff Miller wrote on [Sun, 17 Jun 2007 14:25:56 -0000]:
>>
>> What I don't understand about the whole iPod/Walkman/Discman
>> phenomenon is why so many people feel the need to listen to
>> music so much of the time. Personally, I find music distrac-
>> ting when I'm trying to concentrate on something else. And
>> even when I'm not concentrating on anything in particular, I'm
>> usually quite content just to think.
>
> To keep other noises out, to keep entertained going to and from
> locations, to listen to things beside music. Look at the podcast
> community.

Talking books and audio dramas, too, I should imagine, for the busy
commuter.

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Kier

On 2007-06-17 12:15:26 -0500, Scott en Aztlán <[email protected]> said:

> [email protected] (Geoff Miller) said in misc.consumers:
>
>> : What better evidence of a consumer product's not sucking could there
>> : possibly be than the fact that a ****load of them have been sold?
>>
>>> Microsoft Windows.
>>
>>> 'Nuff said.
>>
>> Not so fast.
>>
>> Windows works just fine for most people most of the time. That's
>> why it sells as well as it does, and it's why it doesn't suck.
>
> That same argument could be applied to "prove" that factory car
> stereos made by Delco and Visteon don't suck. After all, millions of
> them are sold every year, making them among the most successful
> consumer electronic products of all time.
>
> Oh, and the Vortec Cyclone Fuel Saver must not suck, either, since a
> ****load of those are sold every day too.

....and **** must taste really good, because billions of flies can't be wrong!

*smirk*

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JR

On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 16:12:25 +0000, Geoff Miller wrote:

>
>
> Bert Hyman <[email protected]> writes:
>
>> Since this is cross-posted to a couple of cellphone-related
>> newsgroups, I guess it's OK for me to express my curiosity
>> about why so many people feel the need to be on the phone
>> talking to somebody so much of the time.
>
> Works for me.
>
> I don't get that either. It's unclear to me why having the
> ability to talk on the telephone implies a *need* to.
>
> And that's a beef of mine against cellphones: they cause people
> to talk at times and places when they'd once have been quiet.
>
> Maybe I'm unusual, but I regard telephones as communication
> tools like two-way radios, things to be used for a reason (to
> pass useful information) and for no longer than necessary.
> Many people seem to think of them as entertainment devices,
> more akin to TVs and stereos.

They're very much marketed that way, though, aren't they? Goodness knows,
I've been tempted myself, to by a new phone with mp3 capability, just so I
don't have to risk my expensive multimedia portable going to and from work
- I could get one for thirty quid right now, with a 256 meg mini-SD card
thrown in free. It's a pretty crappy phone, but since I hardly use the
phone I've got, and it cost me only a new SIM (being a second-hand one
from a friend), I might go for it.

I've noted that my workmates often use their phones for entertainment,
games, or videoing, or surfing, or listening to music, as much or more
than they do actually talking to people. I might well do the same, except
my mobile is too bog-standard to offer anything like that.

Mobiles do seem to have become cheap multimedia players, offering simple
ways to while away the time during lunchbreaks or waiting at railway
stations.

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Kier

On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 16:15:46 +0000, Geoff Miller wrote:

>
>
> Justin <[email protected]> writes:
>
>> To keep other noises out, to keep entertained going to and from
>> locations, to listen to things beside music. Look at the podcast
>> community.
>
>
> Admittedly, podcasts are something that intrgues me more and more.

I've only recently begun to get into them. Just Linux stuff for now. But
they're quite fun. Strangely enough, my favourite is just a bloke called
Dave, talking about Linux as he drives to work. There's a straight-forward
intimacy in it, almost as if he were chatting to a passenger. He rambles
and digresses, but that's part of the charm

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Kier

On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 09:39:40 -0700, Pegleg wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:04:18 -0000, [email protected] (Geoff Miller)
> wrote:
>
>>And why _would_ the iPod suck, exactly? What is it that you don't
>>like?
>
> One reason I would never buy one is the fact it is tied to music from
> apple. I expect to be able to put my own music on a mp3 player from
> wherever I want.

I think you can do that. You just can't sync other stores' content like
you can with iTunes. I know you can rip your music and put in on a Pod
because my brother has one, and has all his CDs ripped to it. I'm not sure
about buying stuff, though.

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Kier

On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 11:42:55 -0500, Justin wrote:

> Pegleg wrote on [Sun, 17 Jun 2007 09:39:40 -0700]:
>> On Sun, 17 Jun 2007 15:04:18 -0000, [email protected] (Geoff Miller)
>> wrote:
>>
>>>And why _would_ the iPod suck, exactly? What is it that you don't
>>>like?
>>
>> One reason I would never buy one is the fact it is tied to music from
>> apple. I expect to be able to put my own music on a mp3 player from
>> wherever I want.
>
> Most people with an iPod do not buy music via iTunes, that has been
> stated again and again. You can put any mp3 on there you want.

I've been thinking of trying Magnatune for buying tracks, to support
unknown artists (some of them are pretty good, from those I've listened
too). Anyone else had experience with them?

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Kier

Pegleg <[email protected]> wrote
> [email protected] (Geoff Miller) wrote

>> And why _would_ the iPod suck, exactly? What is it that you don't like?
>
> One reason I would never buy one is the fact it is tied to music from apple.

No it isnt. It will import your CDs etc fine.

> I expect to be able to put my own music on a mp3 player from wherever I want.

You can with an ipod.

[email protected] (Geoff Miller) wrote in news:137ajbi3c0ojta5
@corp.supernews.com:

> And why _would_ the iPod suck, exactly? What is it that you don't
> like?
>
>

Hell that's easy. I cannot plug it into my computer, use Windows
Explorer to copy 200 MP3s over to it, unattended, then simply push play
to start playing them.

No, I can't do that. I gotta use some licensing bull**** program and do
'em slow as dirt.

Is that enough reason?

NEVER buy an MP3 player that ISN'T treated as a SIMPLE external hard
drive by Windoze and will play MP3s copied to it by ANY file handler,
even DOS, in the raw.

Too bad my best player (I have 5 out of the 12 I've bought over the
years) isn't available to the LONG waiting list that existed when it was
dumped by Digital Mind Corp for greener pastures. How stupid. It's
called the Xclef 500 and uses STANDARD parts...STANDARD Li-Ion battery
pack, STANDARD 2.5" hard drive available anywhere, STANDARD simple power
brick available at any Radio Shack. It runs 22 hours on a charge. It
needs it. Initially it had a 100GB drive. I upgraded it to 120GB. It's
STILL the largest storage MP3 player, ever. Being a HARD DRIVE to the
computer, it loads as fast as any external hard drive. I also,
sometimes, use it as a laptop hard drive not an MP3 player. It also has
a great FM radio, direct-to-MP3 low res or high res (128K) audio recorder
with virtually no limit to how long it will record. Plug it into your
audio board with a STANDARD cable and it will record your whole concert
at 128Kbps MP3 in stereo with beautiful quality. It makes no discernable
background noise, even plugging its headphone jack into my 1450W Prosound
DJ board.



Larry
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Scott en Aztlán <[email protected]> wrote in
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> Oh, and the Vortec Cyclone Fuel Saver must not suck, either, since a
> ****load of those are sold every day too.
> -

You guys want a great example of how stupid people are?

One word - Amsoil

Call 'em up a the bottling plant and ask 'em the address of the
REFINERY...

What a ripoff....just rebottling oil and selling it on a pyramid.

Here's another word to test it - Amway

Same idea...(c;

Larry
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Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Notan <notan@ddressthatcanbespammed> wrote:
>
>>> What I don't understand about the whole iPod/Walkman/Discman
>>> phenomenon is why so many people feel the need to listen to
>>> music so much of the time. Personally, I find music distrac-
>>> ting when I'm trying to concentrate on something else. And
>>> even when I'm not concentrating on anything in particular, I'm
>>> usually quite content just to think.
>> I'm with you, but what *really* kills me is people requesting
>> different screen savers for their cell phones... Does it get
>> *any* more mindless!!! <g>
>
> OK, fat chicks wearing Britney-Spears-style hip huggers and belly shirts
> requesting different screen savers for their cell phones.
>
> And buying ringtones like they buy drinks at a bar.

I stand corrected!

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Notan

Geoff Miller wrote:

> Windows works just fine for most people most of the time. That's why it
> sells as well as it does, and it's why it doesn't suck.

And McDonalds makes the best burgers.

Idiot.

In article <[email protected]>,
Larry <[email protected]> wrote:

> [email protected] (Lex) wrote in news:HNKWEFW739249.4217592593
> @anonymous.poster:
>
> > Tips for landing an iPhone
> >
>
> People have just GOT to be NUTS! There's no other way to explain their
> stupidity being lead around like dogs on a leash....by the ad hypers.
>
> I just hope the iphone doesn't suck as bad as the ipod does, and always
> has.....
>
> Larry

Enjoying your Zune?

LOL

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