Going from ATTWS to Cingular

currently i have attws plan. my contract is over. Can i port my number
to Cingular? I am asking this because attws and cingular are one
company.. would i have any problem if i do that??

Thanks

Sam

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It's already ported our will be shortly as will all AT&T numbers.

Fred

"Sam Williams" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> currently i have attws plan. my contract is over. Can i port my number
> to Cingular? I am asking this because attws and cingular are one
> company.. would i have any problem if i do that??
>
> Thanks
>
> Sam

"Sam Williams" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> currently i have attws plan. my contract is over. Can i port my number
> to Cingular? I am asking this because attws and cingular are one
> company.. would i have any problem if i do that??
>
> Thanks
>
> Sam

Cingular has already begun actively soliciting ATTWS customers to "upgrade"
to new phones and to Cingular rate plans. You may get a better deal that
way, rather than coming on board as a "new" Cingular customer.

I am trying to get a good deal and that is the reason i want to switch
to cingular.
So are they going to give me better deal than their new customers? For
example on their website they are offering free color flip phone for
new customer (i like that..) Now if i stay with ATTWS would they give
me new phone for free?

Thanks

Sam

"Sam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I am trying to get a good deal and that is the reason i want to switch
> to cingular.
> So are they going to give me better deal than their new customers? For
> example on their website they are offering free color flip phone for
> new customer (i like that..) Now if i stay with ATTWS would they give
> me new phone for free?
>
> Thanks
>
> Sam
>

I do not think you can "stay" with ATTWS, because they are Cingular now.

You might try calling ATTWS customer service (they answer "Cingular") and
tell them you are looking at T-Mobile and you want to know what their
retention plan is, before you switch out.

Customers typically get a better deal as retention customers than they do as
"new" customers.

See what they can do for you. Be sure to get a name and verify everything
they say, because they may not be employees too much longer.

ASK before you DECIDE. Once you switch out of what you have, you may not be
able to return to it.

when i say stay with attws customer is "i will wait to change my phone
until cingular call me and ask to replace my phone". Are they going to
charge me at that time for the new phone? Because if i leave attws now
and port to cingular as new customer i will get a new phone (that's
what i want).
As per calling them, i called them yesterday (3rd time).. they are not
willing to give me anything..!!! so calling them is not an option..
So what do u suggest now?
1. keep using ATTWS (going to be new cingular..)
2. OR quit today.. and port my number today to cingular today and get
new phone and be cingular customer...

Thanks

Sam

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In <[email protected]> on 28 Oct 2004
12:17:38 -0700, "Sam" <[email protected]> wrote:

>when i say stay with attws customer is "i will wait to change my phone
>until cingular call me and ask to replace my phone". Are they going to
>charge me at that time for the new phone? Because if i leave attws now
>and port to cingular as new customer i will get a new phone (that's
>what i want).

Since the transaction has now closed, you're actually a Cingular customer now,
and it may already be too late to be a "new" customer.

>As per calling them, i called them yesterday (3rd time).. they are not
>willing to give me anything..!!! so calling them is not an option..
>So what do u suggest now?
>1. keep using ATTWS (going to be new cingular..)
>2. OR quit today.. and port my number today to cingular today and get
>new phone and be cingular customer...

If you quit, you lose the number. You must port without quitting to keep your
number. When the port is complete, the old service is automatically canceled.
So you're only option is to call Cingular (not what's left of ATTWS), and see
what it will give you to keep you.

--
Best regards,
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/>

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] (Sam Williams) wrote:

> currently i have attws plan. my contract is over. Can i port my number
> to Cingular? I am asking this because attws and cingular are one
> company.. would i have any problem if i do that??
>
> Thanks
>
> Sam

One company in name only. All the AT&TWS computer systems are still
flailing away. So yes, port away.

After 4 years Cingular has yet to integrate all the pieces that make up
Cingular before ATTWS. It'll likely be years before the last AT&T
computer can be shut off.

at the risk of getting flamed here, maybe I can shed a little light.

yes, tuesday was the day the deal was done (maybe not legally but none the
less).
the two companies are still operating seperately. the powers that be need
some time to compare notes (they couldn't have before tuesday AM). You will
see less or no ATTWS advertising and some Cingular advertising noting the
(merger, buyout etc).
espect about 2 weeks before the new cingular is in business. until then, if
you arrive at a Cingular store looking for a deal you will be considered
coming from another company. after the "first day" of operation, you will
see Cingular start to assimilate non contracted ATTWS customers into
Cingular plans and contracted ATTWS customers will stay as is until their
contracts run out.


"Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] (Sam Williams) wrote:
>
> > currently i have attws plan. my contract is over. Can i port my number
> > to Cingular? I am asking this because attws and cingular are one
> > company.. would i have any problem if i do that??
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Sam
>
> One company in name only. All the AT&TWS computer systems are still
> flailing away. So yes, port away.
>
> After 4 years Cingular has yet to integrate all the pieces that make up
> Cingular before ATTWS. It'll likely be years before the last AT&T
> computer can be shut off.

In article <[email protected]>,
"jim" <[email protected]> wrote:

> you will
> see Cingular start to assimilate non contracted ATTWS customers into
> Cingular plans and contracted ATTWS customers will stay as is until their
> contracts run out.
>

That's not what Cingular has said. ATTWS customers remain under their
current plan as long as they want to.

" Now that you are part of the Cingular family, rest assured you can
continue to enjoy your existing benefits uninterrupted and without
changes to your plan or its features. In addition, this union will
provide you with many new benefits from Cingular in the near future. "

http://www.newcingular.com/a_overview.html


Notice Cingular used the word "plan" not "contract". If however a
customer wants a new phone, or some feature of a Cingular contract, then
they'd be put under a Cingular contract.

"Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "jim" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > you will
> > see Cingular start to assimilate non contracted ATTWS customers into
> > Cingular plans and contracted ATTWS customers will stay as is until
their
> > contracts run out.
> >
>
> That's not what Cingular has said. ATTWS customers remain under their
> current plan as long as they want to.
>
> " Now that you are part of the Cingular family, rest assured you can
> continue to enjoy your existing benefits uninterrupted and without
> changes to your plan or its features. In addition, this union will
> provide you with many new benefits from Cingular in the near future. "
>
> http://www.newcingular.com/a_overview.html
>
>
> Notice Cingular used the word "plan" not "contract". If however a
> customer wants a new phone, or some feature of a Cingular contract, then
> they'd be put under a Cingular contract.

How is that any different than what I said? If I purchased an ATTWS phone on
monday on a 2 year contract I would get to keep all features etc for the 2
years. Take mLife, that would be supported for 2 years for the contracted
customers. You can bet your last buck that on day one of the new Cingular
all ATTWS branded phones will be removed from the stores. These may be
shelved for warranty or insurance replacement purposes for existing
customers, but all future sales will be Cingular equipment. Any non
contracted customers can keep and use their current features for the
foreseeable future, but when it comes time for a new phone will be moved to
a Cingular plan. By the end of 2 years since the ATTWS plans and features
will not be updated the few remaining users of the ATTWS features will be
more than willing to change.
No one will be forced to change but the incentives to do so will be there.

"Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "jim" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > you will
> > see Cingular start to assimilate non contracted ATTWS customers into
> > Cingular plans and contracted ATTWS customers will stay as is until
their
> > contracts run out.
> >
>
> That's not what Cingular has said. ATTWS customers remain under their
> current plan as long as they want to.
>
> " Now that you are part of the Cingular family, rest assured you can
> continue to enjoy your existing benefits uninterrupted and without
> changes to your plan or its features. In addition, this union will
> provide you with many new benefits from Cingular in the near future. "
>
> http://www.newcingular.com/a_overview.html
>
>
> Notice Cingular used the word "plan" not "contract". If however a
> customer wants a new phone, or some feature of a Cingular contract, then
> they'd be put under a Cingular contract.

What is yet to be known is the percentage of ATTWS customers that, for
whatever reason, want no part of Cingular and will bail out.

ATTWS aggressively pushed 2-year contracts right up to their last day, so
that will dampen any big loss of customers. But many of us have either
fulfilled our term commitment to ATTWS or have contracts whose terms will
shortly expire. This group may be disloyal to Cingular. In my case, I left
Cellular One five years ago to go to AT&T, and I feel no obligation to
Cingular. My contract runs out next July. By then, I hope that AT&T will
have reentered the wireless marketplace, and will again offer incentives to
bring on new customers. If so, it's "Adios, Cingular!"

I've always been an AT&T customer, and have brand loyalty. Cingular will be
able to prosper without having me as a customer.

In article <[email protected]>,
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

> Since the transaction has now closed, you're actually a Cingular customer now,
> and it may already be too late to be a "new" customer.

Wait a minute, Mr. Navas. Aren't you the one pointing out how
*legally,* it's not over yet?

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In article <[email protected]>,
John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:

> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.attws - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <[email protected]> on Fri, 29 Oct
> 2004 16:14:27 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >In article <[email protected]>,
> > John Navas <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> In other words, you're just blowing smoke.
> >
> >I don't bet. You're blowing smoke that Verizon's growth rate (double
> >that of Cingular) will somehow slow down, and ATTWS with its flatline,
> >will somehow balloon. EVERY INDUSTRY ANALYST predicts Verizon will
> >overtake the new Cingular as largest carrier in 1 to 2 years.
>
> Back up that last sentence if you can -- but of course you can't -- it's just
> more smoke.

Too bad you are so poorly reade. You didnt even know ATT was going back
into the wireless business in 6 months:

Start with these:

http://www.forbes.com/home/wireless/...ndaymatchup.ht
ml

http://www.rednova.com/news/stories/.../story290.html

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine...9/b3872045.htm

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Now YOU find me a URL that says Verizon won't surpass Cingular in two
years.

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In article <[email protected]>,
Jim Gilliland <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> But I haven't actually gone to a store and asked. Sometimes it takes a
> while to change the systems and to educate the workforce.

It will take years when you're dealing with 20,000,000 + Users.

Cingular still hasnt integrated the pieces/parts that were combined to
form Cingular 4 years ago.