At 27 Apr 2008 02:07:59 +0000 Larry wrote:

> > or reflected a level of quality they wanted associated
> > with their first foray into mobile telephony.
>
> Naw, it reflected AT&T's level of BANDWIDTH on EDGE. Can you imagine how
> long it would take to send a 900KB video crawling along like a snail on
> 2G?
>
> zzzZZZZzzzZZZZzzzZZZzzzZZZ

Well, I can tell you, since the memory card slot on my phone allows me to
take my camera's memory card, stick it in my phone, and e-mail it over T-
Mo's EDGE network.

A 2MB file takes nearly 10 minutes! (While EDGE can handle up to 200kb/s
downloads, uploading is around 30-40kb/s.) I reserve "full quality"
picture uploads for moments of

Having said that, many phones have an "MMS mode" that lets you take short
clips limited in size to the carrier's MMS limit. My old Nokia 3650
allowed up to 30 second video clips "out of the box." While an official
Nokia software patch abolished the limit, anything over 30 secs. in length
refused to attach to an MMS.

My current WinMo phone, which takes videos of such low quality even Stevie
Wonder could tell how bad they are, has two video modes- Video and MMS
video (the latter stopping when a 300kb limit is reached.)

Given that the current iPhone software doesn't even support MMS, I doubt
bandwidth was a factor in the decision- Apple and AT&T could've simply
blocked long videos from being sent as e-mail attachments. I assume Apple
looked at the current "state of the art" and said "Ugh! Not on OUR phone!"

"Todd Allcock" <[email protected]> wrote in news:fv071n$9cu$1
@aioe.org:

> or reflected a level of quality they wanted associated
> with their first foray into mobile telephony.

Naw, it reflected AT&T's level of BANDWIDTH on EDGE. Can you imagine how
long it would take to send a 900KB video crawling along like a snail on 2G?

zzzZZZZzzzZZZZzzzZZZzzzZZZ

4phun <[email protected]> wrote in news:d4568cc2-4ff4-4187-b925-
[email protected]:

> Low blow!
>
> ;>)
>
>

For $500, the damned thing should be taking HDTV movies!

Of course, that would require STORAGE and BANDWIDTH, which is why there is
no movie capability....especially the BANDWIDTH part...(c;

"Todd Allcock" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Pity. If the bystander had a different phone, they could've shot
> video as well! ;-)
>

Oh, OH!!.......That hurts!......(c;

4phun <[email protected]> wrote in news:7353d3ae-b18c-4fbf-a635-
[email protected]:

> Picture
> good enough to be broadcast on commercial TV, that is the iPhone.
>

ANY crash picture is "good enough to be broadcast", including the low res
iPhone screen picture, if it's the ONLY picture available of a news
story....

You are too funny, Vic.

"4phun" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:d4568cc2-4ff4-4187-b925-68562b006be8@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...

>> > AP News video begins with a close up of the accident caught by an
>> > iPhone. I had to replay this a couple of times to verify that it was
>> > really a close up of an iPhone screen at the very beginning. Picture
>> > good enough to be broadcast on commercial TV, that is the iPhone.
>>
>> Pity. If the bystander had a different phone, they could've shot video
>> as
>> well! ;-)
>
> Low blow!
>
> ;>)

Yeah, but I couldn't resist! ;-)

Seriously, I understand Apple's design decision there- no mobile phone
really takes "good" video by any standard. I suspect the iPhone could
probably do much better than most mobiles, but it still probably wasn't up
to Apple's standards, or reflected a level of quality they wanted associated
with their first foray into mobile telephony. It would've been nice,
however, if Apple had left that decision up to the end user. I've shot many
a low-res blocky video of my kids with my Nokia and WinMo phones that are
absolutely lousy quality (both technologically and artistically!) but they
captured moments that would've otherwise been lost since I didn't have a
"real" camera or camcorder with me at the time, so I'm very happy to forgive
the low quality in return for the ability to "relive the moment."

On Apr 26, 2:48 pm, "Todd Allcock" <[email protected]>
wrote:
> "4phun" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:7353d3ae-b18c-4fbf-a635-eaa2335f454c@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Amlti7Wm16c[fixed your link]
>
> > AP News video begins with a close up of the accident caught by an
> > iPhone. I had to replay this a couple of times to verify that it was
> > really a close up of an iPhone screen at the very beginning. Picture
> > good enough to be broadcast on commercial TV, that is the iPhone.
>
> Pity. If the bystander had a different phone, they could've shot video as
> well! ;-)

Low blow!

;>)

"4phun" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:7353d3ae-b18c-4fbf-a635-eaa2335f454c@r66g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Amlti7Wm16c [fixed your link]
>
> AP News video begins with a close up of the accident caught by an
> iPhone. I had to replay this a couple of times to verify that it was
> really a close up of an iPhone screen at the very beginning. Picture
> good enough to be broadcast on commercial TV, that is the iPhone.

Pity. If the bystander had a different phone, they could've shot video as
well! ;-)

4phun wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/v/Amlti7Wm16c...1-1_1153895994',
> 'n'
>
> AP News video begins with a close up of the accident caught by an
> iPhone. I had to replay this a couple of times to verify that it was
> really a close up of an iPhone screen at the very beginning. Picture
> good enough to be broadcast on commercial TV, that is the iPhone.
>
> As heavy equipment tore wreckage from a CTA station Friday, police
> began scouring surveillance video to figure out why a semitrailer
> truck sped through a crowd of pedestrians and slammed into the
> station's entryway.


Yup, and just like broadcast TV, it looks like ****.

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http://www.youtube.com/v/Amlti7Wm16c...1-1_1153895994',
'n'

AP News video begins with a close up of the accident caught by an
iPhone. I had to replay this a couple of times to verify that it was
really a close up of an iPhone screen at the very beginning. Picture
good enough to be broadcast on commercial TV, that is the iPhone.

As heavy equipment tore wreckage from a CTA station Friday, police
began scouring surveillance video to figure out why a semitrailer
truck sped through a crowd of pedestrians and slammed into the
station's entryway.