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- 09-24-2003, 05:00 PM #16Geoffrey S. MendelsonGuest
Re: NEWS: Courts Block the NO CALL List!!
In article <[email protected]>, PDA Man wrote:
> Since this has been discussed when the List was first announced, and the =
> fact that it also encompassed cellular numbers, I feel OK to post this. =
> I know I am interested, and PISSED. Was looking forward to the start. =
> Lets hope this stop is short lived.
All you need to do is to implement a caller pays system like we have
here in Israel. It makes cellular phones available to everyone and gets
rid of solicitation calls on them.
Geoff.
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- 09-24-2003, 05:27 PM #17JerGuest
Re: NEWS: Courts Block the NO CALL List!!
PDA Man wrote:
> Since this has been discussed when the List was first announced, and the
> fact that it also encompassed cellular numbers, I feel OK to post this.
> I know I am interested, and PISSED. Was looking forward to the start.
> Lets hope this stop is short lived.
>
> Sept 24 A federal judge has ruled that the Federal Trade Commission
> overstepped its authority in creating the national do-not-call list
> against telemarketers. The ruling Tuesday came in a lawsuit brought by
> telemarketers who challenged the list of 50 million people who said they
> do not want to receive business solicitation calls. The list was to go
> into effect Oct. 1.
>
> For the rest of the story CLICK HERE <http://palmplace.blogspot.com>
Listening to PBS in the car a while ago, they said Congress could
grant the authority to the FCC to invoke a national DNC list in short
order. I imagine if any politician wants a snow ball's chance in hell
of being re-electable, the FCC will get their wish, and the
telemarketers will just have to find something else to whine about -
as if anybody really cares.
--
jer email reply - I am not a 'ten' ICQ = 35253273
"All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
what we know." -- Richard Wilbur
- 09-24-2003, 05:27 PM #18JerGuest
Re: NEWS: Courts Block the NO CALL List!!
PDA Man wrote:
> Since this has been discussed when the List was first announced, and the
> fact that it also encompassed cellular numbers, I feel OK to post this.
> I know I am interested, and PISSED. Was looking forward to the start.
> Lets hope this stop is short lived.
>
> Sept 24 A federal judge has ruled that the Federal Trade Commission
> overstepped its authority in creating the national do-not-call list
> against telemarketers. The ruling Tuesday came in a lawsuit brought by
> telemarketers who challenged the list of 50 million people who said they
> do not want to receive business solicitation calls. The list was to go
> into effect Oct. 1.
>
> For the rest of the story CLICK HERE <http://palmplace.blogspot.com>
Listening to PBS in the car a while ago, they said Congress could
grant the authority to the FCC to invoke a national DNC list in short
order. I imagine if any politician wants a snow ball's chance in hell
of being re-electable, the FCC will get their wish, and the
telemarketers will just have to find something else to whine about -
as if anybody really cares.
--
jer email reply - I am not a 'ten' ICQ = 35253273
"All that we do is touched with ocean, yet we remain on the shore of
what we know." -- Richard Wilbur
- 09-24-2003, 05:53 PM #19OpentoeGuest
Re: Courts Block the NO CALL List!!
Doesn't matter to me...I usually keep my phone off the hook and when I do answer it soon as I hear the idiot trying to sell me something, I hang up. They do call on weekends, during the most times when people are home....soon I'll just disconnect all together and just use my cell phone.
"PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
Since this has been discussed when the List was first announced, and the fact that it also encompassed cellular numbers, I feel OK to post this. I know I am interested, and PISSED. Was looking forward to the start. Lets hope this stop is short lived.
Sept 24 - A federal judge has ruled that the Federal Trade Commission overstepped its authority in creating the national do-not-call list against telemarketers. The ruling Tuesday came in a lawsuit brought by telemarketers who challenged the list of 50 million people who said they do not want to receive business solicitation calls. The list was to go into effect Oct. 1.
For the rest of the story CLICK HERE
- 09-24-2003, 05:53 PM #20OpentoeGuest
Re: Courts Block the NO CALL List!!
Doesn't matter to me...I usually keep my phone off the hook and when I do answer it soon as I hear the idiot trying to sell me something, I hang up. They do call on weekends, during the most times when people are home....soon I'll just disconnect all together and just use my cell phone.
"PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
Since this has been discussed when the List was first announced, and the fact that it also encompassed cellular numbers, I feel OK to post this. I know I am interested, and PISSED. Was looking forward to the start. Lets hope this stop is short lived.
Sept 24 - A federal judge has ruled that the Federal Trade Commission overstepped its authority in creating the national do-not-call list against telemarketers. The ruling Tuesday came in a lawsuit brought by telemarketers who challenged the list of 50 million people who said they do not want to receive business solicitation calls. The list was to go into effect Oct. 1.
For the rest of the story CLICK HERE
- 09-24-2003, 05:55 PM #21OpentoeGuest
Re: Courts Block the NO CALL List!!
Hahahaha, so now that list of phone numbers that the FTC has will be sold to the telemarketers!
"PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
Since this has been discussed when the List was first announced, and the fact that it also encompassed cellular numbers, I feel OK to post this. I know I am interested, and PISSED. Was looking forward to the start. Lets hope this stop is short lived.
Sept 24 - A federal judge has ruled that the Federal Trade Commission overstepped its authority in creating the national do-not-call list against telemarketers. The ruling Tuesday came in a lawsuit brought by telemarketers who challenged the list of 50 million people who said they do not want to receive business solicitation calls. The list was to go into effect Oct. 1.
For the rest of the story CLICK HERE
- 09-24-2003, 05:55 PM #22OpentoeGuest
Re: Courts Block the NO CALL List!!
Hahahaha, so now that list of phone numbers that the FTC has will be sold to the telemarketers!
"PDA Man" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
Since this has been discussed when the List was first announced, and the fact that it also encompassed cellular numbers, I feel OK to post this. I know I am interested, and PISSED. Was looking forward to the start. Lets hope this stop is short lived.
Sept 24 - A federal judge has ruled that the Federal Trade Commission overstepped its authority in creating the national do-not-call list against telemarketers. The ruling Tuesday came in a lawsuit brought by telemarketers who challenged the list of 50 million people who said they do not want to receive business solicitation calls. The list was to go into effect Oct. 1.
For the rest of the story CLICK HERE
- 09-24-2003, 06:31 PM #23m thalerGuest
Re: NEWS: Courts Block the NO CALL List!!
[email protected] (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote in article ets hope this
stop is short lived.
>
> All you need to do is to implement a caller pays system like we have
> here in Israel. It makes cellular phones available to everyone and gets
> rid of solicitation calls on them.
>
> Geoff.
>
This has been discussed many times.
1. Phone solicitors can not call cel phones.
2. As you mentioned, in virtually all countries outside the U.S.
and Canada, the cost of an incoming call to a cel shows up on your land
line bill. What you forgot to mention is that cost is extremely high,
as much as 10 to 20 cents/min. in many countries. In the U.S., cost of
incoming and well as outgoing calls is well under 10 cents/min. for most
people. Many of us pay less than 2 cents/min.!! In addition, most
users in the U.S. have plans that include unlimited nites and weekends.
Because cel useage is so cheap here, many people have given up land
lines entirely in favor of cel phones. Others of us forward all calls
from home and office to our cel when we are away because of the low
cost. That cost would be virtually prohibitive in most countries.
...mike
[posted via phonescoop.com]
- 09-24-2003, 06:31 PM #24m thalerGuest
Re: NEWS: Courts Block the NO CALL List!!
[email protected] (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote in article ets hope this
stop is short lived.
>
> All you need to do is to implement a caller pays system like we have
> here in Israel. It makes cellular phones available to everyone and gets
> rid of solicitation calls on them.
>
> Geoff.
>
This has been discussed many times.
1. Phone solicitors can not call cel phones.
2. As you mentioned, in virtually all countries outside the U.S.
and Canada, the cost of an incoming call to a cel shows up on your land
line bill. What you forgot to mention is that cost is extremely high,
as much as 10 to 20 cents/min. in many countries. In the U.S., cost of
incoming and well as outgoing calls is well under 10 cents/min. for most
people. Many of us pay less than 2 cents/min.!! In addition, most
users in the U.S. have plans that include unlimited nites and weekends.
Because cel useage is so cheap here, many people have given up land
lines entirely in favor of cel phones. Others of us forward all calls
from home and office to our cel when we are away because of the low
cost. That cost would be virtually prohibitive in most countries.
...mike
[posted via phonescoop.com]
- 09-24-2003, 07:57 PM #25William BrayGuest
Re: NEWS: Courts Block the NO CALL List!!
There is just one problem with this notion. Many Tele-markets have
computers that generate numbers at random. This way they can get around
unlisted numbers. A cell phone number is an unlisted number with the
local land line data banks. As several cell phone owners has listed
themselves with land line no contact lists this opens up a whole new can
of worms. What's a 20 cent call to a hundred dollar sale? What they
don't do now will happen unless people get together to protect their
interest on this one. How can they do this? It's called a waiver.
[email protected] (m thaler) wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
>
>
> [email protected] (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote in article ets hope this
> stop is short lived.
> >
> > All you need to do is to implement a caller pays system like we have
> > here in Israel. It makes cellular phones available to everyone and gets
> > rid of solicitation calls on them.
> >
> > Geoff.
> >
> This has been discussed many times.
> 1. Phone solicitors can not call cel phones.
> 2. As you mentioned, in virtually all countries outside the U.S.
> and Canada, the cost of an incoming call to a cel shows up on your land
> line bill. What you forgot to mention is that cost is extremely high,
> as much as 10 to 20 cents/min. in many countries. In the U.S., cost of
> incoming and well as outgoing calls is well under 10 cents/min. for most
> people. Many of us pay less than 2 cents/min.!! In addition, most
> users in the U.S. have plans that include unlimited nites and weekends.
>
> Because cel useage is so cheap here, many people have given up land
> lines entirely in favor of cel phones. Others of us forward all calls
> from home and office to our cel when we are away because of the low
> cost. That cost would be virtually prohibitive in most countries.
>
>
> ...mike
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com]
[posted via phonescoop.com]
- 09-24-2003, 07:57 PM #26William BrayGuest
Re: NEWS: Courts Block the NO CALL List!!
There is just one problem with this notion. Many Tele-markets have
computers that generate numbers at random. This way they can get around
unlisted numbers. A cell phone number is an unlisted number with the
local land line data banks. As several cell phone owners has listed
themselves with land line no contact lists this opens up a whole new can
of worms. What's a 20 cent call to a hundred dollar sale? What they
don't do now will happen unless people get together to protect their
interest on this one. How can they do this? It's called a waiver.
[email protected] (m thaler) wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
>
>
> [email protected] (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote in article ets hope this
> stop is short lived.
> >
> > All you need to do is to implement a caller pays system like we have
> > here in Israel. It makes cellular phones available to everyone and gets
> > rid of solicitation calls on them.
> >
> > Geoff.
> >
> This has been discussed many times.
> 1. Phone solicitors can not call cel phones.
> 2. As you mentioned, in virtually all countries outside the U.S.
> and Canada, the cost of an incoming call to a cel shows up on your land
> line bill. What you forgot to mention is that cost is extremely high,
> as much as 10 to 20 cents/min. in many countries. In the U.S., cost of
> incoming and well as outgoing calls is well under 10 cents/min. for most
> people. Many of us pay less than 2 cents/min.!! In addition, most
> users in the U.S. have plans that include unlimited nites and weekends.
>
> Because cel useage is so cheap here, many people have given up land
> lines entirely in favor of cel phones. Others of us forward all calls
> from home and office to our cel when we are away because of the low
> cost. That cost would be virtually prohibitive in most countries.
>
>
> ...mike
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com]
[posted via phonescoop.com]
- 09-24-2003, 08:10 PM #27Real Estate AgentGuest
The MCI Telemarketer
"Justin"
>
> You'd think that companies would at least honor the wishes of people who
> don't want to be called, regardless of whether the FCC had the authority
or
> not. But they're just after money, so they don't care how annoying they
> are.
>
Of course its about money. That's business. But they should use some common
sense. I got a call about an hour ago from MCI long distance, wanting me to
come back. (I dumped them Monday.)
The young man on the phone made the mistake of asking why I left.
"Because," I responded, "you folks called me five times during a hurricane.
On the first (and each subsequent) call, I explained that we were in a
difficult situation and that it would be good to curtail calls to Eastern
NC, Virginia, and the State of Maryland for at least ten days. Instead,
your group kept calling."
"But you're okay, now?" he asked, trying to get me back on track.
"Yes," I responded. "But I made a decision to avoid doing business with MCI
for at least one year for failing to be sensitive to the plight of
individuals and for tying up the phone lines during an emergency."
I suppose I'll hear from him in about ten months.....
-Paul-
________________________________________
Telemarketer calls experienced, professional salesman.
Irresistible force meets unmovable object.
_________________________________________
- 09-24-2003, 08:12 PM #28dan allenGuest
Re: NEWS: Courts Block the NO CALL List!!
Just full of saturated info
[email protected] (William Bray) wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> There is just one problem with this notion. Many Tele-markets have
> computers that generate numbers at random. This way they can get around
> unlisted numbers. A cell phone number is an unlisted number with the
> local land line data banks. As several cell phone owners has listed
> themselves with land line no contact lists this opens up a whole new can
> of worms. What's a 20 cent call to a hundred dollar sale? What they
> don't do now will happen unless people get together to protect their
> interest on this one. How can they do this? It's called a waiver.
>
> [email protected] (m thaler) wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> >
> >
> > [email protected] (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote in article ets hope this
> > stop is short lived.
> > >
> > > All you need to do is to implement a caller pays system like we have
> > > here in Israel. It makes cellular phones available to everyone and gets
> > > rid of solicitation calls on them.
> > >
> > > Geoff.
> > >
> > This has been discussed many times.
> > 1. Phone solicitors can not call cel phones.
> > 2. As you mentioned, in virtually all countries outside the U.S.
> > and Canada, the cost of an incoming call to a cel shows up on your land
> > line bill. What you forgot to mention is that cost is extremely high,
> > as much as 10 to 20 cents/min. in many countries. In the U.S., cost of
> > incoming and well as outgoing calls is well under 10 cents/min. for most
> > people. Many of us pay less than 2 cents/min.!! In addition, most
> > users in the U.S. have plans that include unlimited nites and weekends.
> >
> > Because cel useage is so cheap here, many people have given up land
> > lines entirely in favor of cel phones. Others of us forward all calls
> > from home and office to our cel when we are away because of the low
> > cost. That cost would be virtually prohibitive in most countries.
> >
> >
> > ...mike
> >
> > [posted via phonescoop.com]
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com]
[posted via phonescoop.com]
- 09-24-2003, 08:12 PM #29dan allenGuest
Re: NEWS: Courts Block the NO CALL List!!
Just full of saturated info
[email protected] (William Bray) wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> There is just one problem with this notion. Many Tele-markets have
> computers that generate numbers at random. This way they can get around
> unlisted numbers. A cell phone number is an unlisted number with the
> local land line data banks. As several cell phone owners has listed
> themselves with land line no contact lists this opens up a whole new can
> of worms. What's a 20 cent call to a hundred dollar sale? What they
> don't do now will happen unless people get together to protect their
> interest on this one. How can they do this? It's called a waiver.
>
> [email protected] (m thaler) wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> >
> >
> > [email protected] (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote in article ets hope this
> > stop is short lived.
> > >
> > > All you need to do is to implement a caller pays system like we have
> > > here in Israel. It makes cellular phones available to everyone and gets
> > > rid of solicitation calls on them.
> > >
> > > Geoff.
> > >
> > This has been discussed many times.
> > 1. Phone solicitors can not call cel phones.
> > 2. As you mentioned, in virtually all countries outside the U.S.
> > and Canada, the cost of an incoming call to a cel shows up on your land
> > line bill. What you forgot to mention is that cost is extremely high,
> > as much as 10 to 20 cents/min. in many countries. In the U.S., cost of
> > incoming and well as outgoing calls is well under 10 cents/min. for most
> > people. Many of us pay less than 2 cents/min.!! In addition, most
> > users in the U.S. have plans that include unlimited nites and weekends.
> >
> > Because cel useage is so cheap here, many people have given up land
> > lines entirely in favor of cel phones. Others of us forward all calls
> > from home and office to our cel when we are away because of the low
> > cost. That cost would be virtually prohibitive in most countries.
> >
> >
> > ...mike
> >
> > [posted via phonescoop.com]
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com]
[posted via phonescoop.com]
- 09-24-2003, 08:15 PM #30dan allenGuest
Re: NEWS: Courts Block the NO CALL List!!
wow I should post my responses on every link too, ..........there just
saturated with info great work William!
[email protected] (William Bray) wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
> There is just one problem with this notion. Many Tele-markets have
> computers that generate numbers at random. This way they can get around
> unlisted numbers. A cell phone number is an unlisted number with the
> local land line data banks. As several cell phone owners has listed
> themselves with land line no contact lists this opens up a whole new can
> of worms. What's a 20 cent call to a hundred dollar sale? What they
> don't do now will happen unless people get together to protect their
> interest on this one. How can they do this? It's called a waiver.
>
> [email protected] (m thaler) wrote in article
> <[email protected]>:
> >
> >
> > [email protected] (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote in article ets hope this
> > stop is short lived.
> > >
> > > All you need to do is to implement a caller pays system like we have
> > > here in Israel. It makes cellular phones available to everyone and gets
> > > rid of solicitation calls on them.
> > >
> > > Geoff.
> > >
> > This has been discussed many times.
> > 1. Phone solicitors can not call cel phones.
> > 2. As you mentioned, in virtually all countries outside the U.S.
> > and Canada, the cost of an incoming call to a cel shows up on your land
> > line bill. What you forgot to mention is that cost is extremely high,
> > as much as 10 to 20 cents/min. in many countries. In the U.S., cost of
> > incoming and well as outgoing calls is well under 10 cents/min. for most
> > people. Many of us pay less than 2 cents/min.!! In addition, most
> > users in the U.S. have plans that include unlimited nites and weekends.
> >
> > Because cel useage is so cheap here, many people have given up land
> > lines entirely in favor of cel phones. Others of us forward all calls
> > from home and office to our cel when we are away because of the low
> > cost. That cost would be virtually prohibitive in most countries.
> >
> >
> > ...mike
> >
> > [posted via phonescoop.com]
>
> [posted via phonescoop.com]
[posted via phonescoop.com]
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