84010 Reverse billing thieves

"Tumbleweed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "Adam Funk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>>>> As long as the police assume that you have signed up for the service,
>>>> and consumers have no right to repudiate specific charges and force
>>>> their phone company to act in their interests, the fraudsters have no
>>>> reason not to lie about it.
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>>> Guilty till proven innocent?
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>>> ;-)
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>> That's the way it is for the consumer at present.
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> Its about time that someone took these bastards to the small claims court.

Indeed. If they just take one persons £1.50 credit they know people are not
likely to do anything (and nor will ICTSIS). However, if they do it
thousands of people these twats are making loads of dosh and getting away
with nothing short of THEFT! What they have done to me and others is
Criminal nothing more or less. They have taken small amounts from people and
made loads of money.

I doubt whether a cheque for £1.50 will be forthcoming but I will be
bothering them until I do. I know that I have never entered my number on
here but obviously cannot prove it. However, just because they have my
number on their data base does not give them the right to STEAL!!! Those on
contracts beware you may be in for a nasty shock when you get your bill.

Tim

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Tim Rogers <[email protected]> had it:

> I doubt whether a cheque for £1.50 will be forthcoming but I will be
> bothering them until I do. I know that I have never entered my number on
> here but obviously cannot prove it. However, just because they have my
> number on their data base does not give them the right to STEAL!!! Those on
> contracts beware you may be in for a nasty shock when you get your bill.

I will certainly set my company's lawyers on them if they are
stealing from our company mobile phone accounts. Since we have in-
house lawyers, there's no specific cost for this. I'm waiting for
confirmation that these texts do actually cost us money.

But I am still concerned about the notion that a former relationship
of some sort entitles them to send texts which cost money to receive.
I think I'll check with Oftel.

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"J B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "the Omrud" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > Even if this were true, surely it's not sufficient for
> > them to send you reverse-charged texts. I would
> > imagine that they should be able to provide proof that
> > you actively requested such a service.
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> I've just been on the B4U web site and filled in the
> contact form.

Oops that's you down for a quick £1.50 then..!

I had one last December from 83149 which came back with an address very
similar to the one given for this outfit, well in the same area of central
Birmingham, anyway, so I wonder if they are the same lot..? I wrote to
them and I did receive a cheque for £3. However I would suspect that the
number of people who complain are in a very small minority so it is still
most likely a good money making excercise for them.

Ivor

Ivor Jones <[email protected]> had it:

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> "J B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > "the Omrud" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > > Even if this were true, surely it's not sufficient for
> > > them to send you reverse-charged texts. I would
> > > imagine that they should be able to provide proof that
> > > you actively requested such a service.
> >
> > I've just been on the B4U web site and filled in the
> > contact form.
>
> Oops that's you down for a quick £1.50 then..!
>
> I had one last December from 83149 which came back with an address very
> similar to the one given for this outfit, well in the same area of central
> Birmingham, anyway, so I wonder if they are the same lot..? I wrote to
> them and I did receive a cheque for £3. However I would suspect that the
> number of people who complain are in a very small minority so it is still
> most likely a good money making excercise for them.

Do you mean you sent a letter, or an email?

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"the Omrud" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Ivor Jones <[email protected]> had it:
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> >
> >
> > "J B" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > > "the Omrud" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> > > > Even if this were true, surely it's not sufficient
> > > > for them to send you reverse-charged texts. I would
> > > > imagine that they should be able to provide proof
> > > > that you actively requested such a service.
> > >
> > > I've just been on the B4U web site and filled in the
> > > contact form.
> >
> > Oops that's you down for a quick £1.50 then..!
> >
> > I had one last December from 83149 which came back with
> > an address very similar to the one given for this
> > outfit, well in the same area of central Birmingham,
> > anyway, so I wonder if they are the same lot..? I wrote
> > to them and I did receive a cheque for £3. However I
> > would suspect that the number of people who complain
> > are in a very small minority so it is still most likely
> > a good money making excercise for them.
>
> Do you mean you sent a letter, or an email?

A letter, in the post, snail mail. Recorded delivery with proof of
signature so they can't claim they never received it.

Ivor

"Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> I've just been on the B4U web site and filled in the
>> contact form.
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> Oops that's you down for a quick £1.50 then..!

No, I've had the text already, so I presume I'm down - can't tell till my
billing date which is 3rd!

> I had one last December from 83149 which came back with an address very
> similar to the one given for this outfit, well in the same area of central
> Birmingham, anyway, so I wonder if they are the same lot..? I wrote to
> them and I did receive a cheque for £3.

Why didn't you just go round there and threaten to drive your bus through
their window!!!!

:-))