News: Details on iPhone at Walmart

"nospam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:211220081724364066%[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>, Kevin Weaver
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I saw that the other day. Friend who has a iPhone was looking at apps.
>> He wanted to get a few, connects on 3G and finds he cant. Pop up tells
>> him
>> he must connect thru Wi-Fi. I busted up. Unlimited plan that has limits.
>
> the apps store works just fine over 3g, with the only limit being apps
> over 10 meg. the vast majority of apps are under 10 meg, with most
> under 1 meg.



But there are apps that cant be downloaded. Why not with a Unlimited plan ?
You fail to tell me why that is. With unlimited there should be no limit.

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"Kevin Weaver" <[email protected]> wrote in
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> "nospam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:211220081724364066%[email protected]...
>> In article <[email protected]>, Kevin Weaver
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I saw that the other day. Friend who has a iPhone was looking at
>>> apps. He wanted to get a few, connects on 3G and finds he cant. Pop
>>> up tells him
>>> he must connect thru Wi-Fi. I busted up. Unlimited plan that has
>>> limits.
>>
>> the apps store works just fine over 3g, with the only limit being
>> apps over 10 meg. the vast majority of apps are under 10 meg, with
>> most under 1 meg.
>
>
>
> But there are apps that cant be downloaded. Why not with a Unlimited
> plan ? You fail to tell me why that is. With unlimited there should be
> no limit.
>
>

I'm trying to grasp why downloading 10MB of data is such a threat to ATT's
flimsy system THEY feel it is too much for the system, and therefore must
be blocked!

10MB is nothing!

At 21 Dec 2008 06:06:29 -0500 nospam wrote:

> just what i thought. you haven't actually used any restaurant search
> apps on the iphone, yet you are so sure they don't work well.

Urban Spoon + Sioux City, Iowa = Zero. The wife lost street cred trying
show that off to the locals. ;-)


> > Bluetooth flat out sucks on the iPhone. Can't transfer file's. No
external
> > mem so there stuck at 8 and 16GB. Battery can't last more then a day.
>
> the only issue with bluetooth is it doesn't support stereo headsets,
> but those are clunky and not particularly common. transferring files
> is easy.

How? There's no OBEX support, or BT sync.

At 20 Dec 2008 17:51:06 -0800 iPhone 3Gold wrote:

> Let me get this straight. You do not have an iPhone but want it to
> have a costly obsolete MMS function so it can talk to old crappy
> phones and send them a picture.

Um, yes. It's called "backwards compatibility" but that's never meant much
to Apple... ;-)

> The iPhone has the ability to send and
> receive real email with photos as attachments which are received by
> any PC or Mac in the world as well as the newer more capable phones.
> Email is unlimited and FREE on the iPhone.


"Free" as in "included with a mandatory $30 data plan."

> Why not waste you time and call for people to get rid of the old crap
> and move into the 21 century so they can communicate using RTF emails
> with Apple the third largest phone dealer in the world based on the
> value of current sales.

Some people (notme!) get along fine with no dta plan, and use unlimited
messaging plans for SMS/MMS.

> Another thought since it is obvious that majority of the real mobile
> market is using an Apple platform now would it not make sense to
> create Apple specific pages and lose the flash crap so you do not miss
> critical sales in this stressed economy? Those that do may survive,
> those that don't may loose the part of the trade they need to survive.


Using that logic, would it not make even more sense to make non-Apple-
specific formatted web pages that all mobile devices, including iPhones can
view, to open sales in a stresed economy to the 3 billion non-iPhones in
use?

> I know if I am taking a group out to eat and I hit a flash page while
> searching for a restaurant, I don't even pause to consider it, I just
> move on to one we can interact with. I am mobile and I am not going to
> boot up a laptop for such a simple query.


Agreed. A WAP page will suffice, unless you're too snobby to view such a
simple construct.

Todd Allcock <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:

> Um, yes. It's called "backwards compatibility" but that's never meant
> much to Apple... ;-)
>
>

Ask any MAC owner wanting a new MAC but with two firewire drives full of
his stuff....

In article <[email protected]>, Kevin Weaver
<[email protected]> wrote:

> But there are apps that cant be downloaded. Why not with a Unlimited plan ?
> You fail to tell me why that is. With unlimited there should be no limit.

there's no limit on the *amount* of data (although i think there's a 5
gig limit common to most carriers with 'unlimited' plans). i don't
know why there's a 10 meg limit on apps.

In article <[email protected]>, Todd Allcock
<[email protected]> wrote:

> > Let me get this straight. You do not have an iPhone but want it to
> > have a costly obsolete MMS function so it can talk to old crappy
> > phones and send them a picture.
>
> Um, yes. It's called "backwards compatibility" but that's never meant much
> to Apple... ;-)

that's not backwards compatibility, thats simply choosing not to
implement a feature.

also, apple spends a lot of resources on backwards compatibility. for
instance, they developed the classic environment so that older os 9
apps could run in os x and also rosetta so that powerpc apps could run
on an intel mac.

In article <[email protected]>, Larry
<[email protected]> wrote:

> Ask any MAC owner wanting a new MAC but with two firewire drives full of
> his stuff....

ask them what? macs still have firewire. the new macbook doesn't, so
they'd probably want the macbook pro which *does*.

At 22 Dec 2008 10:32:24 -0500 nospam wrote:
> i don't
> know why there's a 10 meg limit on apps.

For the same reason you need WiFi to download iTunes purchases: the cellcos
are Aple's primary customers- you are secondary...

(An attitude in mobile telephony not unique to Apple, BTW. But you should
get used to it.)

In article <[email protected]>, Todd Allcock
<[email protected]> wrote:

> At 22 Dec 2008 10:32:24 -0500 nospam wrote:
> > i don't
> > know why there's a 10 meg limit on apps.
>
> For the same reason you need WiFi to download iTunes purchases: the cellcos
> are Aple's primary customers- you are secondary...

music purchases i suspect are due to stupid licensing issues, perhaps a
long term exclusive contract the music companies may have signed with
at&t.

however, with apps, there can't be a pre-existing contract because the
apps didn't exist before the iphone did. the 10 meg limit, as far as i
can tell, is just an arbitrary limit. about the only reason i can
think of is that downloading large apps via the cell network will take
a while and users might get impatient. personally, i'd *want* to wait
for wifi to download a large app, but it should still be up to the
user.

> (An attitude in mobile telephony not unique to Apple, BTW. But you should
> get used to it.)

oh, i realize that.