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- 11-24-2004, 10:36 AM #1TsheerGuest
I read that millions of people moved their cell phone number to Verizon, so
I checked it out. I'm currently a Cingular customer with a GSM phone.
No rollover on Verizon, but incoming calls are free! I really like that, as
most of my calls are incoming.
However, I think they are not GSM. Is that right?
So I would have to buy a phone directly from Verizon?
I like the ability with Cingular to buy whatever GSM phone I like.
Any chance in h*ll Cingular might introduce free incoming calls?
Thanks
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- 11-24-2004, 11:26 AM #2Bert HymanGuest
Re: Verizon has free incoming calls
[email protected] (Tsheer) wrote in news:[email protected]:
> No rollover on Verizon, but incoming calls are free!
Where'd you get that idea?
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Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | [email protected]
- 11-24-2004, 11:26 AM #3Dave C.Guest
Re: Verizon has free incoming calls
"Tsheer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I read that millions of people moved their cell phone number to Verizon, so
>I checked it out. I'm currently a Cingular customer with a GSM phone.
>
> No rollover on Verizon, but incoming calls are free! I really like that,
> as most of my calls are incoming.
>
> However, I think they are not GSM. Is that right?
> So I would have to buy a phone directly from Verizon?
>
> I like the ability with Cingular to buy whatever GSM phone I like.
>
> Any chance in h*ll Cingular might introduce free incoming calls?
>
> Thanks
Verizon's service, as far as coverage goes, is great. I had to dump Verizon
for Cingular though, when Verizon made outrageous billing errors in
Verizon's favor, ADMITTED that they made errors, and refused to correct
them. -Dave
- 11-24-2004, 01:05 PM #4Jack ZwickGuest
Re: Verizon has free incoming calls
In article <[email protected]>,
"Tsheer" <[email protected]> wrote:
> I read that millions of people moved their cell phone number to Verizon, so
> I checked it out. I'm currently a Cingular customer with a GSM phone.
>
> No rollover on Verizon, but incoming calls are free! I really like that, as
> most of my calls are incoming.
Nextel has ==> some <== plans with free incoming minutes. Verizon does
not.
>
> However, I think they are not GSM. Is that right?
Verizon is CDMA
> So I would have to buy a phone directly from Verizon?
Almost all of the time.
>
> I like the ability with Cingular to buy whatever GSM phone I like.
>
> Any chance in h*ll Cingular might introduce free incoming calls?
>
> Thanks
- 11-24-2004, 01:17 PM #5John NavasGuest
Re: Verizon has free incoming calls
[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
In <[email protected]> on 24 Nov 2004 17:26:09 GMT,
Bert Hyman <[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] (Tsheer) wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
>> No rollover on Verizon, but incoming calls are free!
>
>Where'd you get that idea?
Only free from another Verizon subscriber.
--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
- 11-24-2004, 01:33 PM #6John NavasGuest
Re: Verizon has free incoming calls
[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
In <[email protected]> on Wed, 24 Nov
2004 19:05:39 GMT, Jack Zwick <[email protected]> wrote:
>In article <[email protected]>,
> "Tsheer" <[email protected]> wrote:
>> No rollover on Verizon, but incoming calls are free! I really like that, as
>> most of my calls are incoming.
>
>Nextel has ==> some <== plans with free incoming minutes. Verizon does
>not.
Clueless again -- see IN Calling at
http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/d...picID=135#1073
or http://tinyurl.com/4a5bo
>> So I would have to buy a phone directly from Verizon?
>
>Almost all of the time.
Clueless again -- you can buy a phone from a dealer, on eBay, etc, and have it
activated.
--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
- 11-24-2004, 02:46 PM #7Guest
Re: Verizon has free incoming calls
Verizon uses CDMA/TDMA technology, not as good as GSM, but GSM uses sim
cards to auththenticate vs. using Time Division Multiple Access for
authentication, plus GSM splits the frequency into many more channels than
TDMA/CDMA/ANALOG...
"Tsheer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I read that millions of people moved their cell phone number to Verizon,
so
> I checked it out. I'm currently a Cingular customer with a GSM phone.
>
> No rollover on Verizon, but incoming calls are free! I really like that,
as
> most of my calls are incoming.
>
> However, I think they are not GSM. Is that right?
> So I would have to buy a phone directly from Verizon?
>
> I like the ability with Cingular to buy whatever GSM phone I like.
>
> Any chance in h*ll Cingular might introduce free incoming calls?
>
> Thanks
>
>
- 11-24-2004, 02:58 PM #8TsheerGuest
Re: Verizon has free incoming calls
"Tsheer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>I read that millions of people moved their cell phone number to Verizon, so
>I checked it out. I'm currently a Cingular customer with a GSM phone.
>
> No rollover on Verizon, but incoming calls are free! I really like that,
> as most of my calls are incoming.
>
> However, I think they are not GSM. Is that right?
> So I would have to buy a phone directly from Verizon?
>
> I like the ability with Cingular to buy whatever GSM phone I like.
>
> Any chance in h*ll Cingular might introduce free incoming calls?
>
> Thanks
Well, I misinterpreted what "unlimited IN calls" means, it's in-network, and
not incoming, so sorry for the misleading subject, but thanks for the
responses.
Still the unlimited in-network is attractive to me.
- 11-24-2004, 06:54 PM #9Stuart FriedmanGuest
Re: Verizon has free incoming calls
Nextel has a plan with free incoming. Verizon doesn't.
Stu
"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <[email protected]> on 24 Nov 2004 17:26:09
> GMT,
> Bert Hyman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>[email protected] (Tsheer) wrote in news:[email protected]:
>>
>>> No rollover on Verizon, but incoming calls are free!
>>
>>Where'd you get that idea?
>
> Only free from another Verizon subscriber.
>
> --
> Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
> John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
- 11-24-2004, 06:58 PM #10John NavasGuest
Re: Verizon has free incoming calls
[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
In <[email protected]> on Wed, 24 Nov 2004
20:46:57 GMT, <[email protected]> wrote:
>Verizon uses CDMA/TDMA technology, not as good as GSM,
Verizon just uses CMDA technology, backed up by AMPS (analog). CDMA is as
"good" as GSM.
>but GSM uses sim
>cards to auththenticate
GSM also uses SIM cards to hold subscriber data and network programming.
>vs. using Time Division Multiple Access for
>authentication,
CDMA and TDMA actually authenticate and provision in the phone (handset)
rather than the SIM.
>plus GSM splits the frequency into many more channels than
>TDMA/CDMA/ANALOG...
GSM and TDMA channels are comparable and dedicated -- GSM is based on TDMA.
CDMA is spread spectrum, shared rather than dedicated channels.
AMPS (analog) is much less efficient than those digital technologies.
>"Tsheer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> I read that millions of people moved their cell phone number to Verizon,
>so
>> I checked it out. I'm currently a Cingular customer with a GSM phone.
>>
>> No rollover on Verizon, but incoming calls are free! I really like that,
>as
>> most of my calls are incoming.
>>
>> However, I think they are not GSM. Is that right?
>> So I would have to buy a phone directly from Verizon?
>>
>> I like the ability with Cingular to buy whatever GSM phone I like.
>>
>> Any chance in h*ll Cingular might introduce free incoming calls?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>
--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
- 11-24-2004, 08:30 PM #11Ralph BlachGuest
Re: Verizon has free incoming calls
Dave,
They refused to change???????????????
They must be brave. If they that to much, you end up with lots of
lawyers!!!!
Chip
Dave C. wrote:
> "Tsheer" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
>>I read that millions of people moved their cell phone number to Verizon, so
>>I checked it out. I'm currently a Cingular customer with a GSM phone.
>>
>>No rollover on Verizon, but incoming calls are free! I really like that,
>>as most of my calls are incoming.
>>
>>However, I think they are not GSM. Is that right?
>>So I would have to buy a phone directly from Verizon?
>>
>>I like the ability with Cingular to buy whatever GSM phone I like.
>>
>>Any chance in h*ll Cingular might introduce free incoming calls?
>>
>>Thanks
>
>
> Verizon's service, as far as coverage goes, is great. I had to dump Verizon
> for Cingular though, when Verizon made outrageous billing errors in
> Verizon's favor, ADMITTED that they made errors, and refused to correct
> them. -Dave
>
>
- 11-24-2004, 09:12 PM #12Dave C.Guest
Re: Verizon has free incoming calls
"Ralph Blach" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Dave,
>
> They refused to change???????????????
> They must be brave. If they that to much, you end up with lots of
> lawyers!!!!
>
> Chip
>
> Dave C. wrote:
>>
>> Verizon's service, as far as coverage goes, is great. I had to dump
>> Verizon for Cingular though, when Verizon made outrageous billing errors
>> in Verizon's favor, ADMITTED that they made errors, and refused to
>> correct them. -Dave
More details . . . I was making calls in my home area, on Verizon's Network,
with a Verizon handset. In other words, I wasn't roaming, and wasn't
off-network or even out of my HOME area. But, many calls I was making
weren't billed until three months after I made them. So it worked out like
this (for example). Month 1 I used most of my anytime minutes, but only
about half the minutes I used showed on the bill. Did I get a credit for
minutes NOT used? Of course not. Then in month 4, I used most of my
anytime minutes again. For month 4 I get billed for (month 4) plus (half of
month 1). MAJOR OVERAGE CHARGES!!!
This happened multiple times. Verizon claimed that this was "normal" and
that "all cell phone companies do that". Uhhhhhhh . . . no, they don't.
Not for calls in your home area on their own network they don't. Only
Verizon pulls that particular scam.
To be fair, I didn't need Verizon's help to rack up overage charges, as I
did that periodically without any help from Verizon's screwed up billing
system. HOWEVER, the delayed billing was clearly unfair when I'd have
hundreds of unused minutes in January's statement and then I'd be billed in
April for overage charges resulting from calls MADE IN JANUARY. -Dave
- 11-24-2004, 10:27 PM #13JosephGuest
Re: Verizon has free incoming calls
On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 12:58:05 -0800, "Tsheer" <[email protected]>
wrote:
>Well, I misinterpreted what "unlimited IN calls" means, it's in-network, and
>not incoming, so sorry for the misleading subject, but thanks for the
>responses.
>
>Still the unlimited in-network is attractive to me.
Practically every mobile provider has an unlimited mobile-to-mobile
plan. It's not just the province of Verizon. You wouldn't think so
from watching commercials but it's true. Some (such as cingular)
count *all* calls as mobile-to-mobile even if you're on someone else's
network.
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- 11-25-2004, 03:01 AM #14John NavasGuest
Re: Verizon has free incoming calls
[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
In <[email protected]> on Wed, 24 Nov 2004 20:27:03
-0800, Joseph <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 12:58:05 -0800, "Tsheer" <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>Well, I misinterpreted what "unlimited IN calls" means, it's in-network, and
>>not incoming, so sorry for the misleading subject, but thanks for the
>>responses.
>>
>>Still the unlimited in-network is attractive to me.
>
>Practically every mobile provider has an unlimited mobile-to-mobile
>plan. It's not just the province of Verizon. You wouldn't think so
>from watching commercials but it's true. Some (such as cingular)
>count *all* calls as mobile-to-mobile even if you're on someone else's
>network.
Cingular Mobile-to-Mobile doesn't apply if you're on someone else's network.
--
Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
- 11-25-2004, 05:33 AM #15HardpanGuest
Re: Verizon has free incoming calls
On 24 Nov 2004 17:26:09 GMT, BURST Hyman <[email protected]> wrote:
>[email protected] (Tsheer) wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
>> No rollover on Verizon, but incoming calls are free!
>
>Where'd you get that idea?
Probably read it on a red state bumper sicker
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