Nokia 7610 imei Change Software

>> IF the police is doing it LEGALLY, wouldn't that be classified as
>> OSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE?
>
> If that were so, it would also be obstruction of justice to have your
> curtains closed if a police officer walks through the street. Although
> I know people who actually think so.
>
> But when you're attacking the police because you don't agree with some
> of their actions, like action groups here against the massive use of
> speed camera's, you'd better count on them listening to your phone.

Changing the IMEI number is only for people who come into possesion of
stolen/lost mobile phones and wish to give them a new lease of life on the
UK network. This bull**** about the police tracking the IMEI and calls made
from it regardless of simcard/network used is just that - bull**** If you
are so paranoid that you believe that your calls would be tracked in this
manner then you wouldn't use a mobile at all. Here's hoping that the blocked
IMEI list goes global one day soon to stop the assholes selling mobiles to
other countries where the block is not applied.

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Dave wrote:

> Changing the IMEI number is only for people who come into possesion of
> stolen/lost mobile phones and wish to give them a new lease of life on the
> UK network.

Not only that.

> This bull**** about the police tracking the IMEI and calls made
> from it regardless of simcard/network used is just that

I guess you're one of those types that has nothing to hide and don't care
if the police records all your phonecalls. Well, I'm not. Mobile phones
give an organisatorial advantage so I keep using them, but I'll make it
as difficult as possible for the police to monitor all my calls.

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Johan Wevers wrote:
> Dave wrote:
>
>> Changing the IMEI number is only for people who come into
>> possesion of stolen/lost mobile phones and wish to give them a new
>> lease of life on the UK network.
>
> Not only that.
>
>> This bull**** about the police tracking the IMEI and calls made
>> from it regardless of simcard/network used is just that
>
> I guess you're one of those types that has nothing to hide and
> don't care if the police records all your phonecalls. Well, I'm
> not. Mobile phones give an organisatorial advantage so I keep using
> them, but I'll make it as difficult as possible for the police to
> monitor all my calls.

Why would they want to..?! They do have other things to do such as
catching criminals, you know..! If you're not one, why would they have any
interest in you..?

Ivor

Ivor Jones wrote:

> Why would they want to..?! They do have other things to do such as
> catching criminals, you know..! If you're not one, why would they have any
> interest in you..?

Because I sometimes work with people who publish things the police doesn't
like, like pictures of police officers sleeping in a car when the speed
camera is working. That's perfectly legal, but the police seems to consider
it a reason to harrass you.

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Johan Wevers wrote:
> Ivor Jones wrote:
>
>> Why would they want to..?! They do have other things to do such as
>> catching criminals, you know..! If you're not one, why would they
>> have any interest in you..?
>
> Because I sometimes work with people who publish things the police
> doesn't like, like pictures of police officers sleeping in a car
> when the speed camera is working. That's perfectly legal, but the
> police seems to consider it a reason to harrass you.

And you think that's a reason for them to go to the time/trouble/expense
of monitoring your mobile phone calls..?! Do you have any idea of how
difficult it actually *is* to do this..? Even having complied with the
requisite legal processes..?

Paranoia is alive and well and living on Usenet.....

Ivor

Ivor Jones wrote:

> And you think that's a reason for them to go to the time/trouble/expense
> of monitoring your mobile phone calls..?!

Yes. The Netherlands has even more phone taps than the USA, not per head
of the population but in absolute numbers.

> Do you have any idea of how
> difficult it actually *is* to do this..?

Not more difficult than sending an order to the provider.

> Even having complied with the requisite legal processes..?

There aren't much any more, now that the gouvernments are trying to
induce fear for terrorism so hard. For example, any police officer
can already ask for traffic data without permission from any judge.

The only advantage here is that you can still buy anonymous prepaids.
Buying a prepay (and collecting the extra credit you get by sending
in registration on a false name) gives you some anonimity if you use
it, but buying a new phone for this every now and then is much more
difficult than changing the IMEI.

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[email protected] // http://www.xs4all.nl/~johanw/index.html
PGP/GPG public keys at http://www.xs4all.nl/~johanw/pgpkeys.html

Johan Wevers wrote:
> Ivor Jones wrote:
>
>> And you think that's a reason for them to go to the
>> time/trouble/expense of monitoring your mobile phone calls..?!
>
> Yes. The Netherlands has even more phone taps than the USA, not per
> head of the population but in absolute numbers.

And you know this how..?!

>> Do you have any idea of how
>> difficult it actually *is* to do this..?
>
> Not more difficult than sending an order to the provider.
>
>> Even having complied with the requisite legal processes..?
>
> There aren't much any more, now that the gouvernments are trying to
> induce fear for terrorism so hard. For example, any police officer
> can already ask for traffic data without permission from any judge.

Which is reasonable if you are driving dangerously or while drinking etc.
We're talking about phones not cars.

> The only advantage here is that you can still buy anonymous
> prepaids. Buying a prepay (and collecting the extra credit you get
> by sending
> in registration on a false name) gives you some anonimity if you use
> it, but buying a new phone for this every now and then is much more
> difficult than changing the IMEI.

You really are paranoid, aren't you..! I give up, go and change your IMEI
as often as you like, I hope you're the test case that proves my point in
court..!

<Plonk>

Ivor

Ivor Jones wrote:

>> Yes. The Netherlands has even more phone taps than the USA, not per
>> head of the population but in absolute numbers.

> And you know this how..?!

The numbers are published.

>> There aren't much any more, now that the gouvernments are trying to
>> induce fear for terrorism so hard. For example, any police officer
>> can already ask for traffic data without permission from any judge.

> Which is reasonable if you are driving dangerously or while drinking etc.
> We're talking about phones not cars.

Traffic data in this meaning has nothing to do with cars, but with who
phoned who, for how long, when, and roughly the location of the phone.
Although the data is also used when there is a case about phoning while
driving.

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