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  1. #1
    DJ!
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    I've been thinking about buying one of these from overseas rather than
    locally. I can get one for around $210 delivered from the UK vs the
    full rrp of $399 that most shops want to charge.

    Does anyone know if these cards (generally or for specific countries)
    are SIM or networked locked? I can live with a network lock if it
    means I can only use it with Vodafone Australia. However, a SIM-lock
    to Voda-UK would be nasty.

    Thanks in advance.

    DJ! - OzDJ
    [email protected]
    http://phlog.net/user/OzDJ



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  2. #2
    Gunn
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    Re: Vodafone Connect GPRS/3G Card

    Get a 3 NetConnect Card, $0 card and only 12 month contract and $79 for 1 GB

    www.three.com.au

    "DJ!" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > I've been thinking about buying one of these from overseas rather than
    > locally. I can get one for around $210 delivered from the UK vs the
    > full rrp of $399 that most shops want to charge.
    >
    > Does anyone know if these cards (generally or for specific countries)
    > are SIM or networked locked? I can live with a network lock if it
    > means I can only use it with Vodafone Australia. However, a SIM-lock
    > to Voda-UK would be nasty.
    >
    > Thanks in advance.
    >
    > DJ! - OzDJ
    > [email protected]
    > http://phlog.net/user/OzDJ






  3. #3
    DJ!
    Guest

    Re: Vodafone Connect GPRS/3G Card

    On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 00:43:14 GMT, "Gunn" <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Get a 3 NetConnect Card, $0 card


    Nice. Except you're locked to Hutchinson as your provider. My "day
    job" is in consumer affairs, trade practices etc. I would struggle to
    buy from 3/Hutchinson on principle.


    > and only 12 month contract and $79 for 1 GB


    Only if you're an existing customer. I'm not, therefore I'd be looking
    at $129.00/mth for 1GB + 30c/MB excess. And the included traffic is
    only within 3's 3G zones. As soon as you travel outside of the Sydney
    BCD (fergzample), you are billed separately at $1.65/MB for GPRS
    traffic.

    Vodafone is $99.95/mth for unlimited 3G and GPRS. Their site warns
    that exceeding 1GB/mth may be more than "fair use", however, a couple
    of other users I know are averaging 2-3GB of traffic per month without
    shaping or other 'penalties'.

    Thanks for the suggestion.

    DJ! - OzDJ
    [email protected]
    http://phlog.net/user/OzDJ



  4. #4
    Tom Smyth
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    Re: Vodafone Connect GPRS/3G Card


    "DJ!" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...

    > Vodafone is $99.95/mth for unlimited 3G and GPRS. Their site warns
    > that exceeding 1GB/mth may be more than "fair use", however, a couple
    > of other users I know are averaging 2-3GB of traffic per month without
    > shaping or other 'penalties'.


    Have you considered the Bigpond one? You won't get 2-3GB, but it roams onto
    CDMA so you get access pretty much anywhere at double dial-up speed.

    IMO GPRS is useless for mobile internet.





  5. #5
    A User
    Guest

    Re: Vodafone Connect GPRS/3G Card

    On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 22:55:31 GMT, "Tom Smyth"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >
    >"DJ!" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >news:[email protected]...
    >
    >> Vodafone is $99.95/mth for unlimited 3G and GPRS. Their site warns
    >> that exceeding 1GB/mth may be more than "fair use", however, a couple
    >> of other users I know are averaging 2-3GB of traffic per month without
    >> shaping or other 'penalties'.

    >
    >Have you considered the Bigpond one? You won't get 2-3GB, but it roams onto
    >CDMA so you get access pretty much anywhere at double dial-up speed.
    >
    >IMO GPRS is useless for mobile internet.
    >


    That's why it's 3g first... and roams GPRS, much like the CDMA network
    version, but more standards compliant. 384k in most capital cities..



  6. #6
    Tom Smyth
    Guest

    Re: Vodafone Connect GPRS/3G Card


    "A User" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 22:55:31 GMT, "Tom Smyth"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>
    >>"DJ!" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    >>news:[email protected]...
    >>
    >>> Vodafone is $99.95/mth for unlimited 3G and GPRS. Their site warns
    >>> that exceeding 1GB/mth may be more than "fair use", however, a couple
    >>> of other users I know are averaging 2-3GB of traffic per month without
    >>> shaping or other 'penalties'.

    >>
    >>Have you considered the Bigpond one? You won't get 2-3GB, but it roams
    >>onto
    >>CDMA so you get access pretty much anywhere at double dial-up speed.
    >>
    >>IMO GPRS is useless for mobile internet.
    >>

    >
    > That's why it's 3g first... and roams GPRS, much like the CDMA network
    > version, but more standards compliant. 384k in most capital cities..


    Yes but roaming onto GPRS is as good as roaming onto nothing.





  7. #7
    DJ!
    Guest

    Re: Vodafone Connect GPRS/3G Card

    On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 23:14:19 GMT, "Tom Smyth"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Yes but roaming onto GPRS is as good as roaming onto nothing.


    That's a pretty stupid statement. Was it born of stupidity, arrogance
    or ignorance? I'm going to assume it's the latter and that you've
    never been out on the road - away from a WiFi point, internet cafe or
    3G connectivity - and needed to get an urgent email or two
    sent/received. GPRS handles such tasks relatively slowly but certainly
    reliably.

    DJ! - OzDJ
    [email protected]
    http://phlog.net/user/OzDJ



  8. #8
    DJ!
    Guest

    Re: Vodafone Connect GPRS/3G Card

    On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 22:55:31 GMT, "Tom Smyth"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Have you considered the Bigpond one? You won't get 2-3GB, but it roams onto
    >CDMA so you get access pretty much anywhere at double dial-up speed.


    Included/packaged traffic is too thin for my needs. Plus, Vodafone's
    3G international roaming arrangements leave Telstra EV-DO/CDMA for
    dead once you step out of Australia (especially Europe).


    >IMO GPRS is useless for mobile internet.


    On what do you base that?! Millions of GPRS-dependent Blackberry users
    would disagree.

    DJ! - OzDJ
    [email protected]
    http://phlog.net/user/OzDJ



  9. #9
    L G
    Guest

    Re: Vodafone Connect GPRS/3G Card

    DJ! wrote:

    > Included/packaged traffic is too thin for my needs. Plus, Vodafone's
    > 3G international roaming arrangements leave Telstra EV-DO/CDMA for
    > dead once you step out of Australia (especially Europe).


    DJ,

    Have you got any more info on the roaming bit ? URL would be handy ? I
    am just about to go to Europe for a few weeks and so for I always had a
    massive GPRS bill when I got home (Optus), although the reliability of
    the Optus roaming has been great (both Europe and SE Asia).

    Speed wise I have learned to live with GPRS (you learn to be efficient
    with what you need to do) but if it is not too costly I would not mind
    exploring the 3G option.

    Thx,

    Leo




  10. #10
    Tom Smyth
    Guest

    Re: Vodafone Connect GPRS/3G Card


    "DJ!" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 23:14:19 GMT, "Tom Smyth"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>Yes but roaming onto GPRS is as good as roaming onto nothing.

    >
    > That's a pretty stupid statement. Was it born of stupidity, arrogance
    > or ignorance? I'm going to assume it's the latter and that you've
    > never been out on the road - away from a WiFi point, internet cafe or
    > 3G connectivity - and needed to get an urgent email or two
    > sent/received. GPRS handles such tasks relatively slowly but certainly
    > reliably.


    I use wireless to access an exchange server and SAP via a secure VPN. GPRS
    simply does not cut the mustard. With CDMAx1 it's BAU (not just sending an
    "urgent email or two") and has better coverage across the country. Once I
    tried it I'd never go back. I wish there was iBurst coverage across the
    country, but EVDO and CDMA is the closest I've gotten to it.





  11. #11
    Tom Smyth
    Guest

    Re: Vodafone Connect GPRS/3G Card


    "DJ!" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 22:55:31 GMT, "Tom Smyth"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>Have you considered the Bigpond one? You won't get 2-3GB, but it roams
    >>onto
    >>CDMA so you get access pretty much anywhere at double dial-up speed.

    >
    > Included/packaged traffic is too thin for my needs. Plus, Vodafone's
    > 3G international roaming arrangements leave Telstra EV-DO/CDMA for
    > dead once you step out of Australia (especially Europe).


    Fair enough. I find 1 gig plenty for me, especially since the data actually
    billed of me seems strangely very conservative.

    And international data roaming isn't a concern for me at the moment.

    >>IMO GPRS is useless for mobile internet.

    >
    > On what do you base that?! Millions of GPRS-dependent Blackberry users
    > would disagree.


    That's a tad different to accessing websites and large network files etc.
    You can work remotely quite comfortably on CDMA.





  12. #12
    DJ!
    Guest

    Re: Vodafone Connect GPRS/3G Card

    On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 23:37:35 GMT, "Tom Smyth"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >> On what do you base that?! Millions of GPRS-dependent Blackberry users
    >> would disagree.

    >
    >That's a tad different to accessing websites and large network files etc.
    >You can work remotely quite comfortably on CDMA.


    An EV-DO/3G is useless for me if I want to move an offline copy of my
    SQL OLAP cubes back to the server. But that's no reason to declare
    EV-DO/3G is "useless".

    DJ! - OzDJ
    [email protected]
    http://phlog.net/user/OzDJ



  13. #13
    Tom Smyth
    Guest

    Re: Vodafone Connect GPRS/3G Card


    "DJ!" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 23:37:35 GMT, "Tom Smyth"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>> On what do you base that?! Millions of GPRS-dependent Blackberry users
    >>> would disagree.

    >>
    >>That's a tad different to accessing websites and large network files etc.
    >>You can work remotely quite comfortably on CDMA.

    >
    > An EV-DO/3G is useless for me if I want to move an offline copy of my
    > SQL OLAP cubes back to the server. But that's no reason to declare
    > EV-DO/3G is "useless".


    Whatever. I was merely pointing out that you can have significantly faster
    access when outside of 3G/EVDO. I have broad experience with wireless access
    and I know what works.

    You posture about "being out on the road" yet "one or two urgent emails"
    will suffice. Why don't you just get a blackberry?





  14. #14
    DJ!
    Guest

    Re: Vodafone Connect GPRS/3G Card

    On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:38:29 GMT, "Tom Smyth"
    <[email protected]> wrote:

    >Whatever. I was merely pointing out that you can have significantly faster
    >access when outside of 3G/EVDO. I have broad experience with wireless access
    >and I know what works.


    "Whatever" indeed.

    >You posture about "being out on the road" yet "one or two urgent emails"
    >will suffice.


    Go back and read it *in context* Tom. ie In response to your idiotic
    assertion that you'd be better off with NOTHING than GPRS.

    Selective memory, Tom?

    DJ! - OzDJ
    [email protected]
    http://phlog.net/user/OzDJ



  15. #15
    Tom Smyth
    Guest

    Re: Vodafone Connect GPRS/3G Card


    "DJ!" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]...
    > On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 22:38:29 GMT, "Tom Smyth"
    > <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    >>Whatever. I was merely pointing out that you can have significantly faster
    >>access when outside of 3G/EVDO. I have broad experience with wireless
    >>access
    >>and I know what works.

    >
    > "Whatever" indeed.
    >
    >>You posture about "being out on the road" yet "one or two urgent emails"
    >>will suffice.

    >
    > Go back and read it *in context* Tom. ie In response to your idiotic
    > assertion that you'd be better off with NOTHING than GPRS.


    Go back and read it *in context* DJ! GPRS does not compare to CDMA data.





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