Montg. County, MD Gets $2 Per Line TAX

In article <[email protected]>,
Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:

> Charles, maybe you can explain what that $2/mo./phone charge is for?

It was part of a package of tax increases passed to meet the county
budget. The county has a three billion dollar budget. Montgomery County
runs the schools, police department, fire department, libraries, parks,
roads, bus service, etc. Income and fuel taxes were also raised. The
wireless tax was an extension of a tax that was already in effect for
wired phone service to wireless tax, along with a raise of that tax.

--
Charles

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"Male Bomb" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> It's not an "ISSUE" it is 2 bucks a month, pay it or cancel your service
> and save $14.95 a month plus TAXES. Gas prices here have went up about
> 15 cents per gallon in the last 2 weeks, but guess what I still have to
> drive to work and to run errands. I guess I could get on Usenet and
> ***** but what good would it do. MB
>
> "> I think I've got a solution to this guys tax issue.
> >
> > Why don't some of you folks, who obviously think you are not paying
enough
> > taxes, send him $2 each month?
> >
> > Put up, or shut up!
> >
> Why should I subsidize someone who is (1) too cheap to pay the $2.00 tax
> or (2) Has poorly managed his money so now he has to sweat every penny
> he spends. I am paying for enough deadbeats with my taxes already...
> MB

Exactly, so why should we have to pay more taxes? What do they go for? You
should be more concerned about taxes. Everyone should.

I said nothing about his job, my point was that if you don't want to pay
the tax CXL service and be done with it. If the tax is such a hardship
why not email your local congressman instead of wasting your time on
usenet. I am not "special" I am a realist, taxes are a part of life,
yeah it sucks but what are you going to do?

> Oh, so now you are qualified to judge everybody, about what job they had,
> about how much money they have to live the rest of their lives? How do you
> know he poorly managed his money?

I didn't say he did, there were 2 options, did you read the whole post
before you responded?

> Geez MB, you must be special to know so much ...
>
> Bob

Thanks for the kind words "Bob"... MB


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I am in the northeast also and you get taxed to death here, trust me.
If my local township, county or what ever put a $2.00 tax on my cell
bill I would just pay it. What else is there to do? Got to a city
council meeting and waste your time arguing it? MB

"Been There" <[email protected]> wrote in article
<O%[email protected]>:
> Oh, I see! You don't want to pay $2 in additional taxes either.
> Why didn't you just agree with him in the first place?
> Could have saved us all a lot of time!
>
> > Why should I subsidize someone who is (1) too cheap to pay the $2.00 tax
> > or (2) Has poorly managed his money so now he has to sweat every penny
> > he spends. I am paying for enough deadbeats with my taxes already...
> > MB
>
>

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In <[email protected]> on Thu, 28 Aug 2003 17:21:49
-0400, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:

>I'm surprised you people are still giving him the attention he is craving so
>badly. Killfiles are a wonderful thing.

Killfiles are actually pretty childish. All it really takes is restraint
(which of course make me a hypocrite.

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"Charles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:280820031931057763%[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Charles, maybe you can explain what that $2/mo./phone charge is for?
>
> It was part of a package of tax increases passed to meet the county
> budget. The county has a three billion dollar budget. Montgomery County
> runs the schools, police department, fire department, libraries, parks,
> roads, bus service, etc. Income and fuel taxes were also raised. The
> wireless tax was an extension of a tax that was already in effect for
> wired phone service to wireless tax, along with a raise of that tax.
>
> --
> Charles

Ah, so the tax doesn't apply to e-911 then. It's just a tax where funds go
into a general fund.

Bob

"Charles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:280820031931057763%[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Charles, maybe you can explain what that $2/mo./phone charge is for?
>
> It was part of a package of tax increases passed to meet the county
> budget. The county has a three billion dollar budget. Montgomery County
> runs the schools, police department, fire department, libraries, parks,
> roads, bus service, etc. Income and fuel taxes were also raised. The
> wireless tax was an extension of a tax that was already in effect for
> wired phone service to wireless tax, along with a raise of that tax.
>

Then I was correct. It is an abuse of taxation. If they have a budget
problem, an honest tax increase is fine, and that would include income
(including business) and property tax. If people are upset about the size
of an increase in these appropriate areas, then perhaps they don't want
those services that much. But to sneak it (I say this loosely as often
these details go unnoticed by the people that care ... or it is attached to
something else they have little choice but accept) onto a cellular phone
bill when this service has NOTHING to do with it puts an undue tax burden on
an underrepresented population.

Tom Veldhouse

"Bob Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
>
> Ah, so the tax doesn't apply to e-911 then. It's just a tax where funds go
> into a general fund.
>
> Bob
>
>

Exactly.

Tom Veldhouse

"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
> In <[email protected]> on Thu, 28 Aug 2003
17:21:49
> -0400, Mark <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >I'm surprised you people are still giving him the attention he is craving
so
> >badly. Killfiles are a wonderful thing.
>
> Killfiles are actually pretty childish. All it really takes is restraint
> (which of course make me a hypocrite.
>

Killfiles avoid hipocracy and also they save time.

Tom Veldhouse

"rep girl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> IT IS $2 OR I"M SORRY $4 IN YOUR CASE, GET A GRIP, GIVE UP 3 COFFEE AND
> A NEWS PAPER AND THERE IS YOUR STUIPID TAX. THE MONEY THAT YOU OR THE
> COUNTY IS GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND TO BRING THIS TO COURT, IS ALOT MORE
> THEN A LITTLE $4, AND I AM ON A FIXED INCOME, SO DON'T GIVE ME THE FIXED
> INCOME STORY, JUST PAY YOUR BILL , AND LEAVE CITY HALL ALONE, THE
> RECEPTIONIST THAT YOU WILL SPEAKING WITH DID NOT CREATE THIS TAX, AND
> DOES NOT WANT TO DEAL WITH A GRANKY MAN OVER $2
>

You give up your coffee and paper. And quite yelling!

PLONK.

Tom Veldhouse

In article <[email protected]>,
"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> "rep girl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > IT IS $2 OR I"M SORRY $4 IN YOUR CASE, GET A GRIP, GIVE UP 3 COFFEE AND
> > A NEWS PAPER AND THERE IS YOUR STUIPID TAX. THE MONEY THAT YOU OR THE
> > COUNTY IS GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND TO BRING THIS TO COURT, IS ALOT MORE
> > THEN A LITTLE $4, AND I AM ON A FIXED INCOME, SO DON'T GIVE ME THE FIXED
> > INCOME STORY, JUST PAY YOUR BILL , AND LEAVE CITY HALL ALONE, THE
> > RECEPTIONIST THAT YOU WILL SPEAKING WITH DID NOT CREATE THIS TAX, AND
> > DOES NOT WANT TO DEAL WITH A GRANKY MAN OVER $2
> >
>
> You give up your coffee and paper. And quite yelling!
>
> PLONK.
>
> Tom Veldhouse

So Tom is rude on more than one USENET newsgroup. OK, KILL file here
also.

"Phillipe" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...
>
> So Tom is rude on more than one USENET newsgroup. OK, KILL file here
> also.

Oh darn, I am in Phillipe's (or should I say Richard's) killfile.

You are welcome to explain how my posting was rude. The original post was
rude.

Tom Veldhouse

you are totally missing the point, there was a hearing that took place,
and it was in the papers, explaining the tax ( as advised by another
posting ) those are the ways to go about this sort of thing, through the
proper channels,

rep girl

P.S
Caps is not always yelling, it is also used to stress a point!


"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]> wrote in article
<[email protected]>:
>
> "rep girl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > IT IS $2 OR I"M SORRY $4 IN YOUR CASE, GET A GRIP, GIVE UP 3 COFFEE AND
> > A NEWS PAPER AND THERE IS YOUR STUIPID TAX. THE MONEY THAT YOU OR THE
> > COUNTY IS GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND TO BRING THIS TO COURT, IS ALOT MORE
> > THEN A LITTLE $4, AND I AM ON A FIXED INCOME, SO DON'T GIVE ME THE FIXED
> > INCOME STORY, JUST PAY YOUR BILL , AND LEAVE CITY HALL ALONE, THE
> > RECEPTIONIST THAT YOU WILL SPEAKING WITH DID NOT CREATE THIS TAX, AND
> > DOES NOT WANT TO DEAL WITH A GRANKY MAN OVER $2
> >
>
> You give up your coffee and paper. And quite yelling!
>
> PLONK.
>
> Tom Veldhouse
>
>

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"rep girl" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Caps is not always yelling, it is also used to stress a point!

Yes... *A* point... not a whole post.

Chris

"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Charles" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:280820031931057763%[email protected]...
> > In article <[email protected]>,
> > Bob Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Charles, maybe you can explain what that $2/mo./phone charge is for?
> >
> > It was part of a package of tax increases passed to meet the county
> > budget. The county has a three billion dollar budget. Montgomery County
> > runs the schools, police department, fire department, libraries, parks,
> > roads, bus service, etc. Income and fuel taxes were also raised. The
> > wireless tax was an extension of a tax that was already in effect for
> > wired phone service to wireless tax, along with a raise of that tax.
> >
>
> Then I was correct. It is an abuse of taxation. If they have a budget
> problem, an honest tax increase is fine, and that would include income
> (including business) and property tax. If people are upset about the size
> of an increase in these appropriate areas, then perhaps they don't want
> those services that much. But to sneak it (I say this loosely as often
> these details go unnoticed by the people that care ... or it is attached
to
> something else they have little choice but accept) onto a cellular phone
> bill when this service has NOTHING to do with it puts an undue tax burden
on
> an underrepresented population.
>

There is nothing abusive about this tax. It was openly debated at county
council meetings with the opportunity for public comment. If the public had
raised a stink about it, you can be sure it would not have been implemented.
The election winning margins of most of the Montgomery County council
members is very small. They don't take actions that risk their re-election.

As I said before, there were articles in the local media about this. If you
care about your taxes, you pay attention and get involved. Anyone who
doesn't complain when the taxes are being debated doesn't have the right to
complain about it later.....

Personally, I live in Montgomery county instead of one of the surrounding
counties BECAUSE the taxes are so high. I get plenty of services from the
county to compensate. If I call 911 about a kid doing minor vandalization
on my property, a cop shows up in 10 minutes, and within two hours, the punk
is under arrest. In DC or Prince George's county, I could be getting shot
at and unless I get hit with a bullet, the cops will never show up. Earlier
this week, I lost some tree limbs in a bad thunderstorm. I just dragged
them to the edge of the street, and the county came by with a chipper and
took care of them. These were not town trees and were not blocking the
public street, just limbs on my lawn next to the street. My tax dollars at
work.

Alan