Nokia 6310i replacement

"Todd Allcock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Maybe a little stupid, but it makes some form of sense- pretty much
everyone
> "knows" what a camera looks like, so you have some warning when somebody
> whips a camera out and sticks it in your face (or elsewhere!) Camera
phones
> look like phones, and pictures can be taken far more discreetly.

Correct.

>
> I agree that creating legislation for camera phones specifically is a
little
> kneejerk- "spy" cameras have existed for decades and life has gone on
> without civilization crumbling, but lawmakers survive by pandering to the
> latest "problem" that isn't! ;-)

It's politics, man. Some politician is probably running for office somewhere
in Japan, and this is his way of gaining public support.....I'm sure.

>
> Besides, look at the opportunity for software developers to create a new
> market of software "illegally" muting the mandatory 65dB camera noise!
>
> ...now if they'd just legislate that the "Nextel Chirp" must be
accompianed
> by the phone's display flashing "My owner is rude and obnoxious!" in a
font
> easily readable as far as the sound carries... ;-)
>

Or just write 'nonce at work' in large font on the back of camera phones.
Funny isn't it? CP = 'Camera Phone' and CP = 'Child Pornography', Spooky
****! :-)

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"Chogaire" <spam@my*****up.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Todd Allcock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> > Maybe a little stupid, but it makes some form of sense- pretty much
> everyone
> > "knows" what a camera looks like, so you have some warning when somebody
> > whips a camera out and sticks it in your face (or elsewhere!) Camera
> phones
> > look like phones, and pictures can be taken far more discreetly.
>
> Correct.
>
> >
> > I agree that creating legislation for camera phones specifically is a
> little
> > kneejerk- "spy" cameras have existed for decades and life has gone on
> > without civilization crumbling, but lawmakers survive by pandering to
the
> > latest "problem" that isn't! ;-)
>
> It's politics, man. Some politician is probably running for office
somewhere
> in Japan, and this is his way of gaining public support.....I'm sure.
>
> >
> > Besides, look at the opportunity for software developers to create a new
> > market of software "illegally" muting the mandatory 65dB camera noise!
> >
> > ...now if they'd just legislate that the "Nextel Chirp" must be
> accompianed
> > by the phone's display flashing "My owner is rude and obnoxious!" in a
> font
> > easily readable as far as the sound carries... ;-)
> >
>
> Or just write 'nonce at work' in large font on the back of camera phones.
> Funny isn't it? CP = 'Camera Phone' and CP = 'Child Pornography', Spooky
> ****! :-)
>
Ho-Hum... Who needs a camera-phone, these days yer discerning pervert (or
spy) goes for one of these...
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/18/jetflash_dsc/ you get the same sh*te
quality photos, easier transfer to PC for uploading to the dodgy eastern
European hosted web site and no grief from the mob of "Concerned Mothers"
unable to tell the difference between "Paedophile" and "Paediatrician".
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"Steve Dulieu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/18/jetflash_dsc/ you get the same sh*te
> quality photos, easier transfer to PC for uploading to the dodgy eastern
> European hosted web site and no grief from the mob of "Concerned Mothers"
> unable to tell the difference between "Paedophile" and "Paediatrician".

LOL. It's like living in old Salem, isn't it? :-)

On Wed, 19 May 2004 04:17:42 +0100, "Chogaire" <spam@my*****up.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>"Steve Dulieu" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/18/jetflash_dsc/ you get the same sh*te
>> quality photos, easier transfer to PC for uploading to the dodgy eastern
>> European hosted web site and no grief from the mob of "Concerned Mothers"
>> unable to tell the difference between "Paedophile" and "Paediatrician".
>
>LOL. It's like living in old Salem, isn't it? :-)
>

Or even modern day Newport, Mon.


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"Chogaire" <spam@my*****up.co.uk> writes:

>FFS, if it stops *one* dirty ****ing nonce from abusing a child (and taking
>pictures for those reasons *is* abuse) then it is a worthwhile rule.....is
>it not???

Exactly. If everyone were to hold their breath for ten minutes that
would put an end to pedophilia for good.


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On Tue, 18 May 2004 20:22:00 +0100, Chogaire <spam@my*****up.co.uk> wrote:
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>"Soruk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 16 May 2004 20:46:34 +0100, Chogaire <spam@my*****up.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> >"michael turner" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>> >news[email protected]...
>> >
>> >> Yup I will concur with that, and it's exactly the same with GCHQ in
>> >> Cheltenham.
>> >> http://www.gchq.gov.uk/
>> >>
>> >
>> >Are you a spy? And do you wear a dinner jacket and drink shaken not
>stirred
>> >drinks n that lot? :-)
>>
>> No. We all know this world isn't real, this is just the figment of some
>> crazed world-dominating computer's imagination. ;-)
>
>I knew it! I just knew it! Who is Morpheus? What *is* the Matrix???

You will find out in due time. You cannot be told what it is, you have to
see it for yourself.

;-)

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On Tue, 18 May 2004 11:33:21 +0100, Dan <[email protected]> wrote:
>Chogaire wrote:
>> It soon will be. Japan are making it compulsory for the phones to make a 65
>> decibel sound when a shot is taken. Japan has suffered a lot of voyeur
>> camera phone activity.
>
>The Register had an article yesterday...
>
>http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/17/up_skirt_law/

I like it... the only new phones that will work on all the GSM bands there
are camera phones. And they're about to become illegal there.

Nokia, if you're watching, if you came up with a phone that was virtually
identical to the 6310i (inc CARK-91 support) and was quad band you'd have
a lot of customers who won't consider looking anywhere else.

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On Wed, 19 May 2004 13:14:12 +0000 (UTC), Chris Malcolm
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>"Chogaire" <spam@my*****up.co.uk> writes:

[about your sig]

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"Soruk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 18 May 2004 20:22:00 +0100, Chogaire <spam@my*****up.co.uk> wrote:

> >>
> >> No. We all know this world isn't real, this is just the figment of some
> >> crazed world-dominating computer's imagination. ;-)
> >
> >I knew it! I just knew it! Who is Morpheus? What *is* the Matrix???
>
> You will find out in due time. You cannot be told what it is, you have to
> see it for yourself.
>
> ;-)

Ohh, my bottle has gone.....CRIPES! Make mine the blue pill. Ta! :-)

"Soruk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 18 May 2004 11:33:21 +0100, Dan <[email protected]> wrote:
> >Chogaire wrote:
> >> It soon will be. Japan are making it compulsory for the phones to make
a 65
> >> decibel sound when a shot is taken. Japan has suffered a lot of voyeur
> >> camera phone activity.
> >
> >The Register had an article yesterday...
> >
> >http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05/17/up_skirt_law/
>
> I like it... the only new phones that will work on all the GSM bands there
> are camera phones. And they're about to become illegal there.
>
> Nokia, if you're watching, if you came up with a phone that was virtually
> identical to the 6310i (inc CARK-91 support) and was quad band you'd have
> a lot of customers who won't consider looking anywhere else.
>

Seconded.

It's interesting that Nokia are touting the 6230 as the 6310i's replacement.
Sorry, but no.

As best I can see, the differences are:

- 6230 has built-in camera and video-player. Well, whoopie. Sorry, but I'm
not interested in this - although admittedly a colour screen would be nice.

- Smaller dimensions. A matter of preference I guess, but I certainly
wouldn't call the 6310i a brick.

- Battery life (using the spec quoted on nokia.com) roughly about 2/3 that
of the 6310i.

- FM Radio & Music Player. I have a walkman for this.

- MMC support. Ok, useful.

- Wallpapers/screensavers. Oh yippie :-)

- POP3 support. Ok, useful. Although I manage to do email over WAP pretty
well already.

- MMS and "SMS Chat". MMS Receive would be useful - see comments under
colour screen. SMS Chat? SMS Chat - couldn't care less.

- Polyphonic Ringtones - Not especially interested.

- Accessories. A fair bit of difference here. But...6230 has no Fax modem
support.

I'll keep my 6310i thanks :-)

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Jon Pitts wrote:

> It's interesting that Nokia are touting the 6230 as the 6310i's replacement.
> Sorry, but no.
>

I have a 6310i an my wife a 6230
the 6230 would be an interesting replacement of my my 6310i :-)

> As best I can see, the differences are:
>
> - 6230 has built-in camera and video-player. Well, whoopie. Sorry, but I'm
> not interested in this - although admittedly a colour screen would be nice.
>

the colour screen is definitively a plus, as with aplm devices once you
have switched to colour, b&w (well black an light blue...) is less
attractive

the screen is 3 times greater also from 96*65 to 128*128

> - Smaller dimensions. A matter of preference I guess, but I certainly
> wouldn't call the 6310i a brick.
>

I'd rather the size of the 6310i too

> - Battery life (using the spec quoted on nokia.com) roughly about 2/3 that
> of the 6310i.
>

new 6230: 3 days with BT enabled

> - FM Radio & Music Player. I have a walkman for this.
>

It's nice to not have to take the walkman :-)
FM Radio works only with the wired earphone, maybe act as antenna

> - MMC support. Ok, useful.
>

it's mmc only, not sd
you need to open the phone and remove the battery to access to the mmc :-(


> - Wallpapers/screensavers. Oh yippie :-)
> - MMS and "SMS Chat". MMS Receive would be useful - see comments under
> colour screen. SMS Chat? SMS Chat - couldn't care less.
>

there's a lot of features I don't use in my 6310i too: wallet,
calculator, vocal memo, for examples

> - POP3 support. Ok, useful. Although I manage to do email over WAP pretty
> well already.
>

there's a lot of java based email client, much better than wap

> - Polyphonic Ringtones - Not especially interested.
>

you can use also any mp3 file as ringtone,

> - Accessories. A fair bit of difference here. But...6230 has no Fax modem
> support.
>
> I'll keep my 6310i thanks :-)
>

me too, but I won't disagree to replace it :-)

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"Laurent THALER" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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<snip>
> > - MMC support. Ok, useful.
>
> it's mmc only, not sd
> you need to open the phone and remove the battery to access to the mmc :-(
>
Yes that stinks, on the Siemens SL4x you can slide the MMC out the side
without having to remove the battery

Steve Terry

On Sat, 22 May 2004 10:49:47 +0200, Laurent THALER
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Jon Pitts wrote:
>> It's interesting that Nokia are touting the 6230 as the 6310i's replacement.
>> Sorry, but no.

>I have a 6310i an my wife a 6230
>the 6230 would be an interesting replacement of my my 6310i :-)

I've bought a 6320, JUST to keep up with my son (I NEED the GSM
contact due to a divorce). Ik think is a good replacement for my
formerly used 6310i. It is small, however ...

Willem.

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"Laurent THALER" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Jon Pitts wrote:
>
> > It's interesting that Nokia are touting the 6230 as the 6310i's
replacement.
> > Sorry, but no.
> >
>
> I have a 6310i an my wife a 6230
> the 6230 would be an interesting replacement of my my 6310i :-)
>
> > As best I can see, the differences are:
> >
> > - 6230 has built-in camera and video-player. Well, whoopie. Sorry, but
I'm
> > not interested in this - although admittedly a colour screen would be
nice.
> >
>
> the colour screen is definitively a plus, as with aplm devices once you
> have switched to colour, b&w (well black an light blue...) is less
> attractive
>

I guess this is one of those things that you easily live without, but once
you have it you do wonder how you managed without. As my original post said,
it would be a nice-to-have, but am not bothered without it.

> the screen is 3 times greater also from 96*65 to 128*128
>

Ditto my comments above. My fiancee has just changed from an 8310 to 6100 -
I have to admit it's not a bad bit of kit, and the screen is nice. But
again, it doesn't bother me enough to want to change.

> > - Smaller dimensions. A matter of preference I guess, but I certainly
> > wouldn't call the 6310i a brick.
> >
>
> I'd rather the size of the 6310i too
>

So does my car cradle ;-)

> > - Battery life (using the spec quoted on nokia.com) roughly about 2/3
that
> > of the 6310i.
> >
>
> new 6230: 3 days with BT enabled

My 6310i does get a hammering - it'll average about 2 hours of calls on a
good day, and something in the region of 20 SMS, and possibly 30-45 minutes
(sometimes more) of WAP via GPRS. Bluetooth generally enabled only when
being used, and it'll last 4 days between charges although it tends to get
topped up in the car and in the evening - such that I try to keep the meter
showing full all the time.

>
> > - FM Radio & Music Player. I have a walkman for this.
> >
>
> It's nice to not have to take the walkman :-)
> FM Radio works only with the wired earphone, maybe act as antenna

If "her" experience with the 8310's radio is anything to go by, it's worse
than useless unless you're stood still.

>
> > - MMC support. Ok, useful.
> >
>
> it's mmc only, not sd
> you need to open the phone and remove the battery to access to the mmc :-(
>
>

Useless then.

> > - Wallpapers/screensavers. Oh yippie :-)
> > - MMS and "SMS Chat". MMS Receive would be useful - see comments under
> > colour screen. SMS Chat? SMS Chat - couldn't care less.
> >
>
> there's a lot of features I don't use in my 6310i too: wallet,
> calculator, vocal memo, for examples
>

I don't use the Dictaphone, but calculator, calendar and wallet are
immensely useful IMO.

> > - POP3 support. Ok, useful. Although I manage to do email over WAP
pretty
> > well already.
> >
>
> there's a lot of java based email client, much better than wap
>

I did try one of those for a while, never really got on with it.

> > - Polyphonic Ringtones - Not especially interested.
> >
>
> you can use also any mp3 file as ringtone,
>

Nice to have, but I've never really gone for this personalisation stuff.
Rather have a reliable phone that does the job.

> > - Accessories. A fair bit of difference here. But...6230 has no Fax
modem
> > support.
> >
> > I'll keep my 6310i thanks :-)
> >
>
> me too, but I won't disagree to replace it :-)
>

Regards

Jon.
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On 21 May 2004, Jon Pitts wrote
> "Soruk" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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-snip-

>> Nokia, if you're watching, if you came up with a phone that was
>> virtually identical to the 6310i (inc CARK-91 support) and was
>> quad band you'd have a lot of customers who won't consider
>> looking anywhere else.

> Seconded.

> It's interesting that Nokia are touting the 6230 as the 6310i's
> replacement. Sorry, but no.

They appear to be touting the the 6820 "messaging device" in an advert
I saw today.

The business section of the Observer (23rd May) has a large (two-
thirds-ish of a page) advert which -- significantly -- pictures a 6310,
and has the promo line "upgrade your business".

The text talks about the advantages of the 6820, and the advert
finishes with "Nokia 6820 messaging device. Probably the easiest
upgrade decision your business ever made".

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