Premium number Scam

Greg Alexander · 11-20-2006, 02:43 AM

budgie wrote:
> There's a lot of it going on, different promoters but same scam. They send you
> unsolicited ****e and keep sending/billing until you complain. Sometimes
> *****ing to your service provider will get a full refund.

My brother got the same thing on his Optus mobile. He was being charged
a couple of $$ for these messages he never subscribed to. The message
also said he could unsubscribe by sending a message to 19-something
(ie: pay a couple more dollars)

Optus said he must have sent them a subscription message. He made Optus
go through his bill and find a time he texted them, which they couldn't
find, so they removed it from his bill.

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Nole Boaday · 11-20-2006, 02:52 AM

Simon Templar wrote:
> 20-Nov-2006 16:02:49
> Kate <[email protected]> wrote in message
> <[email protected]>
>
>> Not all poetry is ****
>> Depends on who the reader is
>> Simon thinks little of it
>> Because he hasn't had a piss
>>
>> <evil grin>
>>
>> Kate
>
> I wasn't impressed with it because I didn't ask for it and they
> ripped me off $2.50 for it. I tracked th prick down, but he is too
> scared to answer the phone.
>
> I will be Brunswick later in the week, so if he doesn't answer my
> calls I will be paying him a visit to request compensation.
>

****ing tear the bastard a new one. Good on you for going to front this
scum, you can borrow my baseball bat if you wish.

DaN · 11-20-2006, 04:33 AM

I reported some scum like that to the ACMA A few months ago
and it stopped them only a matter of time till someone else tries

[email protected] · 11-20-2006, 11:02 AM

Justin wrote:
> "Simon Templar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> | Yes, a text message arrived from 19907799 last night. I have not
> | subscribed to any such service, I have not sent a text message to
> | their service. When I check my account balance I was charged $2.50
> | for their ****.
> How does that work? Did you have a choice, Yes/No to open this message?
> Pre paid or Post?

Premium SMSs can also be charged on receive as well as send. (This is
how you "subscribe" and pay $100 a month for some services... also note
many of those chat ads on TV say something like "$2.99 per message
PAIR" which is your line and the reply)

Charge on receive means company XYZ can send you a premium SMS without
having any prior relationship with you.

IMHO this should only be permitted if you've previously sent a
subscription message to them, or there's some other way to verify the
owner of that phone has initiated the subscription. It will probably
never happen since the carrier makes money from every premium SMS.

[email protected] · 11-20-2006, 11:14 AM

Simon Templar wrote:
> 19-Nov-2006 20:26:46
> sparky <[email protected]> wrote in message
> <[email protected]>
>
> > Dialogue Communications Pty Ltd
>
> Thanks Sparky, I've got the phone number for them now and going after
> the scum! Dialogue Comms 1300 738 639

Looks like they're some sort of premium SMS gateway, reselling to third
parties... when I called them a few months ago you had to key in the
premium SMS number to get the correct contact details.

In our case one of their "clients" sent 36 SMSs at $3.50 each, a total
of $126. As far as we were able to figure out there was never any
subscription (or ANY contact) initiated from this end. Sounds similar
to your situation.

http://groups.google.com/group/aus.c...bf1cfc85786916

Peter · 11-20-2006, 06:18 PM

"Simon Templar" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:456131cd$0$24703$61c65585@uv-55king-reader-01.melbourne.pipenetworks.com.au...
> 20-Nov-2006 16:02:49
> Kate <[email protected]> wrote in message
> <[email protected]>
>
>> Not all poetry is ****
>> Depends on who the reader is
>> Simon thinks little of it
>> Because he hasn't had a piss
>>
>> <evil grin>
>>
>> Kate
>
> I wasn't impressed with it because I didn't ask for it and they
> ripped me off $2.50 for it. I tracked th prick down, but he is too
> scared to answer the phone.
>
> I will be Brunswick later in the week, so if he doesn't answer my
> calls I will be paying him a visit to request compensation.
>
>
>
> --
> The views I present are that of my own and NOT of any organisation I
> may belong.
>
> 73 de Simon, VK3XEM.
> <http://web.acma.gov.au/pls/radcom/client_search.
> client_lookup?pCLIENT_NO=157452>
> --
> Composed with Newz Crawler 1.8 http://www.newzcrawler.com/

You sure you have the right crowd?
Hate to risk going to jail only to have gone to the wrong place.
http://www.dialogue.net/home.php
Might want to think about this some more.
:-P

[email protected] · 11-20-2006, 10:53 PM

Simon Templar wrote:

> Dialogue Communications 03 9380 9840
> 16 Merri Street
> Brunswick, 3056.
> [email protected]

Hello Simon

Looks like you have the wrong company. (But that is our address.)

We are graphic designers - not anything to do with mobile services.

Our name is Dialogue Visual Communication - similar name to the crowd
you are chasing.

Good luck tracking down the other people.

And sorry for the answering machine here - I spend most of my time out
of the office these days.

Cheers

John

[email protected] · 11-20-2006, 11:20 PM

Peter wrote:

> > I will be Brunswick later in the week, so if he doesn't answer my
> > calls I will be paying him a visit to request compensation.
> >
> You sure you have the right crowd?
> Hate to risk going to jail only to have gone to the wrong place.
> http://www.dialogue.net/home.php
> Might want to think about this some more.
> :-P

Thanks, Peter.

Yes, Simon - I think you have the wrong 'Dialogue'.

(See my post on the original thread.)

My company is a graphic design company - nothing to do with mobile
services or SMS.

Good luck tracking down the other crowd.

Cheers

John

Justin · 11-20-2006, 11:23 PM

Peter · 11-21-2006, 12:27 AM

Justin · 11-21-2006, 12:31 AM

"Peter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
|
| "Justin" <,> wrote in message
| news:[email protected]...
| >
| > <[email protected]> wrote in message
| > news:[email protected]...
| > |
| > | Peter wrote:
| > |
| > | > > I will be Brunswick later in the week, so if he doesn't answer my
| > | > > calls I will be paying him a visit to request compensation.
| > | > >
| > | > You sure you have the right crowd?
| > | > Hate to risk going to jail only to have gone to the wrong place.
| > | > http://www.dialogue.net/home.php
| > | > Might want to think about this some more.
| > | > :-P
| > |
| > | Thanks, Peter.
| > |
| > | Yes, Simon - I think you have the wrong 'Dialogue'.
| > |
| > | (See my post on the original thread.)
| > |
| > | My company is a graphic design company - nothing to do with mobile
| > | services or SMS.
| > |
| > | Good luck tracking down the other crowd.
| > |
| > | Cheers
| > |
| > | John
| > |
| >
| >
| > Yeah, but I wonder what brings you here?
| >
| >
|
| Not what, who.
| Simon can thank me later.
|
| :-P
|
|

not you, the other poster, John.

Peter · 11-21-2006, 12:48 AM

"Justin" <,> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Peter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> |
> | "Justin" <,> wrote in message
> | news:[email protected]...
> | >
> | > <[email protected]> wrote in message
> | > news:[email protected]...
> | > |
> | > | Peter wrote:
> | > |
> | > | > > I will be Brunswick later in the week, so if he doesn't answer
> my
> | > | > > calls I will be paying him a visit to request compensation.
> | > | > >
> | > | > You sure you have the right crowd?
> | > | > Hate to risk going to jail only to have gone to the wrong place.
> | > | > http://www.dialogue.net/home.php
> | > | > Might want to think about this some more.
> | > | > :-P
> | > |
> | > | Thanks, Peter.
> | > |
> | > | Yes, Simon - I think you have the wrong 'Dialogue'.
> | > |
> | > | (See my post on the original thread.)
> | > |
> | > | My company is a graphic design company - nothing to do with mobile
> | > | services or SMS.
> | > |
> | > | Good luck tracking down the other crowd.
> | > |
> | > | Cheers
> | > |
> | > | John
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> | > Yeah, but I wonder what brings you here?
> | >
> | >
> |
> | Not what, who.
> | Simon can thank me later.
> |
> | :-P
> |
> |
>
> not you, the other poster, John.
>
>

I sent John a heads up email so maybe he might know what this is all about
before it gets out of hand. He was thankfull, has been known to get a few
crank calls in the past and now he knows why. He tells me (as his website
does) that he is into visual comunication and not spamming/scamming mobile
telephones.
Hence my previous post snip........

You sure you have the right crowd?
Hate to risk going to jail only to have gone to the wrong place.
http://www.dialogue.net/home.php
Might want to think about this some more.

End snip.

:-P

Justin · 11-21-2006, 12:56 AM

"Peter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
|
| "Justin" <,> wrote in message
| news:[email protected]...
| >
| > "Peter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
| > news:[email protected]...
| > |
| > | "Justin" <,> wrote in message
| > | news:[email protected]...
| > | >
| > | > <[email protected]> wrote in message
| > | > news:[email protected]...
| > | > |
| > | > | Peter wrote:
| > | > |
| > | > | > > I will be Brunswick later in the week, so if he doesn't answer
| > my
| > | > | > > calls I will be paying him a visit to request compensation.
| > | > | > >
| > | > | > You sure you have the right crowd?
| > | > | > Hate to risk going to jail only to have gone to the wrong place.
| > | > | > http://www.dialogue.net/home.php
| > | > | > Might want to think about this some more.
| > | > | > :-P
| > | > |
| > | > | Thanks, Peter.
| > | > |
| > | > | Yes, Simon - I think you have the wrong 'Dialogue'.
| > | > |
| > | > | (See my post on the original thread.)
| > | > |
| > | > | My company is a graphic design company - nothing to do with mobile
| > | > | services or SMS.
| > | > |
| > | > | Good luck tracking down the other crowd.
| > | > |
| > | > | Cheers
| > | > |
| > | > | John
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > Yeah, but I wonder what brings you here?
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > | Not what, who.
| > | Simon can thank me later.
| > |
| > | :-P
| > |
| > |
| >
| > not you, the other poster, John.
| >
| >
|
|
| I sent John a heads up email so maybe he might know what this is all about
| before it gets out of hand. He was thankfull, has been known to get a few
| crank calls in the past and now he knows why. He tells me (as his website
| does) that he is into visual comunication and not spamming/scamming mobile
| telephones.
| Hence my previous post snip........
|
| You sure you have the right crowd?
| Hate to risk going to jail only to have gone to the wrong place.
| http://www.dialogue.net/home.php
| Might want to think about this some more.
|
| End snip.
|
|
|
| :-P
|
|

Cool, thanks for clearing that up, wondered how he got the nuff on it all.

Peter · 11-21-2006, 01:17 AM

"Justin" <.> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Peter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> |
> | "Justin" <,> wrote in message
> | news:[email protected]...
> | >
> | > "Peter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> | > news:[email protected]...
> | > |
> | > | "Justin" <,> wrote in message
> | > | news:[email protected]...
> | > | >
> | > | > <[email protected]> wrote in message
> | > | > news:[email protected]...
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Peter wrote:
> | > | > |
> | > | > | > > I will be Brunswick later in the week, so if he doesn't
> answer
> | > my
> | > | > | > > calls I will be paying him a visit to request compensation.
> | > | > | > >
> | > | > | > You sure you have the right crowd?
> | > | > | > Hate to risk going to jail only to have gone to the wrong
> place.
> | > | > | > http://www.dialogue.net/home.php
> | > | > | > Might want to think about this some more.
> | > | > | > :-P
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Thanks, Peter.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Yes, Simon - I think you have the wrong 'Dialogue'.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | (See my post on the original thread.)
> | > | > |
> | > | > | My company is a graphic design company - nothing to do with
> mobile
> | > | > | services or SMS.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Good luck tracking down the other crowd.
> | > | > |
> | > | > | Cheers
> | > | > |
> | > | > | John
> | > | > |
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > | > Yeah, but I wonder what brings you here?
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > |
> | > | Not what, who.
> | > | Simon can thank me later.
> | > |
> | > | :-P
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | > not you, the other poster, John.
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
> | I sent John a heads up email so maybe he might know what this is all
> about
> | before it gets out of hand. He was thankfull, has been known to get a
> few
> | crank calls in the past and now he knows why. He tells me (as his
> website
> | does) that he is into visual comunication and not spamming/scamming
> mobile
> | telephones.
> | Hence my previous post snip........
> |
> | You sure you have the right crowd?
> | Hate to risk going to jail only to have gone to the wrong place.
> | http://www.dialogue.net/home.php
> | Might want to think about this some more.
> |
> | End snip.
> |
> |
> |
> | :-P
> |
> |
>
>
> Cool, thanks for clearing that up, wondered how he got the nuff on it
> all.
>
>

No probs.
John also said he received a couple of messages on his answering machine by
someone who was pretty upset though failed to leave any return details.
Hahahaha, Simple Simon. Poor John, like wtf! A blind man could see the
difference in business. I would try and get the other croud to change their
name if I was John though not sure how he would get on. This thread might
help!

:-P

Justin · 11-21-2006, 01:25 AM

"Peter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
|
| "Justin" <.> wrote in message
| news:[email protected]...
| >
| > "Peter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
| > news:[email protected]...
| > |
| > | "Justin" <,> wrote in message
| > | news:[email protected]...
| > | >
| > | > "Peter" <[email protected]> wrote in message
| > | > news:[email protected]...
| > | > |
| > | > | "Justin" <,> wrote in message
| > | > | news:[email protected]...
| > | > | >
| > | > | > <[email protected]> wrote in message
| > | > | > news:[email protected]...
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Peter wrote:
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | > > I will be Brunswick later in the week, so if he doesn't
| > answer
| > | > my
| > | > | > | > > calls I will be paying him a visit to request
compensation.
| > | > | > | > >
| > | > | > | > You sure you have the right crowd?
| > | > | > | > Hate to risk going to jail only to have gone to the wrong
| > place.
| > | > | > | > http://www.dialogue.net/home.php
| > | > | > | > Might want to think about this some more.
| > | > | > | > :-P
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Thanks, Peter.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Yes, Simon - I think you have the wrong 'Dialogue'.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | (See my post on the original thread.)
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | My company is a graphic design company - nothing to do with
| > mobile
| > | > | > | services or SMS.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Good luck tracking down the other crowd.
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | Cheers
| > | > | > |
| > | > | > | John
| > | > | > |
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > | > Yeah, but I wonder what brings you here?
| > | > | >
| > | > | >
| > | > |
| > | > | Not what, who.
| > | > | Simon can thank me later.
| > | > |
| > | > | :-P
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | > not you, the other poster, John.
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| > | I sent John a heads up email so maybe he might know what this is all
| > about
| > | before it gets out of hand. He was thankfull, has been known to get a
| > few
| > | crank calls in the past and now he knows why. He tells me (as his
| > website
| > | does) that he is into visual comunication and not spamming/scamming
| > mobile
| > | telephones.
| > | Hence my previous post snip........
| > |
| > | You sure you have the right crowd?
| > | Hate to risk going to jail only to have gone to the wrong place.
| > | http://www.dialogue.net/home.php
| > | Might want to think about this some more.
| > |
| > | End snip.
| > |
| > |
| > |
| > | :-P
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
| > Cool, thanks for clearing that up, wondered how he got the nuff on it
| > all.
| >
| >
|
|
| No probs.
| John also said he received a couple of messages on his answering machine
by
| someone who was pretty upset though failed to leave any return details.
| Hahahaha, Simple Simon. Poor John, like wtf! A blind man could see the
| difference in business. I would try and get the other croud to change
their
| name if I was John though not sure how he would get on. This thread might
| help!
|
| :-P
|
|
|

Well I guess it does pay to get it right, someone innocent could suffer
here, but I do hate the spamming bastards that do get away with much of
this.

Cheers

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