Next G covers all CDMA areas: Telstra

From
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...22/2097871.htm

Telstra says it's confident all its Territory customers currently using its
CDMA network will have similar coverage on its new Next G network.

The CDMA network will stop working on January 28.

Telstra spokesman Geoff Booth says people still using the old network should
buy their new handsets and other equipment as soon as they can.

He says no matter where people live in the Territory, if they had CDMA
coverage, they'll also have coverage under Next G.

"We drove 12,000 kilometres testing the CDMA network versus the Next G
network. We've declared to government that we have network equivalence and
we are very, very confident that that is the case."

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"Allan Parkington" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> From
> http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...22/2097871.htm
>
> Telstra says it's confident all its Territory customers currently using
> its CDMA network will have similar coverage on its new Next G network.

It's 'confident'? Hardly a rock-solid guarantee.
>
> The CDMA network will stop working on January 28.
>
Nope, it will stop working when the government tells them they can do that.

> Telstra spokesman Geoff Booth says people still using the old network
> should

Pity the network aint 'old'.

> buy their new handsets and other equipment as soon as they can.
>
> He says no matter where people live in the Territory, if they had CDMA
> coverage, they'll also have coverage under Next G.

Pity that is yet to be verified by the ACMA

>
> "We drove 12,000 kilometres testing the CDMA network versus the Next G
> network. We've declared to government that we have network equivalence and
> we are very, very confident that that is the case."
>
>
Pity that is up to the Communications Minister to determine.



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No government should be telling a private business that it has to maintain
a service (i.e CDMA) that it no longer wishes to maintain. Telstra is a
private business and has the right to decide to stop offering services just
like any other private business.

Any private business should be free to stop offering any product or service
without government interference. For example, an airline should be free to
discontinue any routes that it decides to discontinue, a retail store
should be free to stop carrying any item that it currently carries. And,
like those other businesses, a mobile phone provider should be free to stop
supporting any networks, protocols, technologies, phones or services that
they choose to stop supporting.

The government should butt out and let the marketplace sort itself out. If
a private business does not provide services that consumers want, someone
else will step in and provide it as long as the demand is there. e.g. if a
shop stops selling eggs, someone else will step in and start selling eggs
if the market wants eggs. If an airline stops flying to a given airport,
another airline will come in and fly to that airport if the market wants to
fly to that airport. And if Telstra stops providing cellphone service to a
given location, another carrier will step in and provide that service if
the market wants cell service in that location.

The only time the government should step in is if a company is abusing its
power to ensure that services are not provided to people that want said
services. As long as there is adequate competition, the government should
stay out of it and let the market sort it out. And where there are
government rules that are restricting competition (such as rules about
which airlines can fly to which airports) the government should work to
remove such obstacles to competition (unless such rules are required to
maintain Australia's quarantine and/or the health and safety of its citizens)

"Jonathan Wilson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> No government should be telling a private business that it has to maintain
> a service (i.e CDMA) that it no longer wishes to maintain. Telstra is a
> private business and has the right to decide to stop offering services
> just like any other private business.

Wrong answer. As a telco, Telstra needs to hold a carrier licence, and the
Commonwealth can add conditions or requirements that the licence holders
needs to meet.

>
> Any private business should be free to stop offering any product or
> service without government interference. For example, an airline should be
> free to discontinue any routes that it decides to discontinue, a retail
> store should be free to stop carrying any item that it currently carries.
> And, like those other businesses, a mobile phone provider should be free
> to stop supporting any networks, protocols, technologies, phones or
> services that they choose to stop supporting.

That would be fine, however Telstra is an ex-government monopoly that would
stomp on all competition otherwise.

>
> The government should butt out and let the marketplace sort itself out. If
> a private business does not provide services that consumers want, someone
> else will step in and provide it as long as the demand is there. e.g. if a
> shop stops selling eggs, someone else will step in and start selling eggs
> if the market wants eggs. If an airline stops flying to a given airport,
> another airline will come in and fly to that airport if the market wants
> to fly to that airport. And if Telstra stops providing cellphone service
> to a given location, another carrier will step in and provide that service
> if the market wants cell service in that location.
>
> The only time the government should step in is if a company is abusing its
> power to ensure that services are not provided to people that want said

Telstra has along history of abusing power; th TIO figures are plain
enought to demonstrate this.

> services. As long as there is adequate competition, the government should
> stay out of it and let the market sort it out. And where there are
> government rules that are restricting competition (such as rules about
> which airlines can fly to which airports) the government should work to
> remove such obstacles to competition (unless such rules are required to
> maintain Australia's quarantine and/or the health and safety of its
> citizens)



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Allan Parkington <[email protected]> wrote:

> From
> http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...22/2097871.htm

> Telstra says it's confident all its Territory customers currently using its CDMA network will have similar coverage on
> its new Next G network.

Easy to claim. Hell of lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

And that is nothing like the original claim anyway.

> The CDMA network will stop working on January 28.

Bare faced lie.

> Telstra spokesman Geoff Booth says people still using the old network
> should buy their new handsets and other equipment as soon as they can.

What the **** is the point of not waiting till Jan ?

> He says no matter where people live in the Territory, if they had CDMA coverage, they'll also have coverage under Next
> G.

Easy to claim. Hell of lot harder to actually substantiate that claim.

> "We drove 12,000 kilometres testing the CDMA network versus the Next G network. We've declared to government that we
> have network
> equivalence and we are very, very confident that that is the case."

And it remains to be seen if the govt will believe you.

Jonathan Wilson <[email protected]> wrote:

> No government should be telling a private business that it has to
> maintain a service (i.e CDMA) that it no longer wishes to maintain.

Wrong when its a monopoly that the govt has partially funded.

If telstra didnt like that, it shouldnt have accepted any govt funding.

> Telstra is a private business and has the right to decide to stop offering services just like any other private
> business.

Any other private business cant necessarily do that unless they
are prepared to offer a full refund to those who they didnt inform
that they were only going to be providing that particular service
until it suited them to shaft their customers by turning it off.

> Any private business should be free to stop offering any product or service without government interference.

Then there's the real world where every govt in the entire
first world has extensive consumer protection law that
anyone offering any product or service has to comply with.

> For example, an airline should be free to discontinue any routes that it decides to discontinue,

Depends on whether the govt has funded that route.

> a retail store should be free to stop carrying any item that it currently carries. And, like those other businesses, a
> mobile phone provider should be free to stop supporting any networks, protocols, technologies, phones or services that
> they choose to stop supporting.

Not if they didnt make it clear to the suckers they flogged that network
to that it could be turned off at any time on a whim and the customers
decide if they are interested in using a network like that or use one
like GSM where they can always use a competitor if the one they
use initially decides to pull the plug on their GSM network.

> The government should butt out and let the marketplace sort itself out.

Every govt in the entire first world has extensive consumer protection
law that anyone offering any product or service has to comply with.

Fools like you get to like that or lump it.

> If a private business does not provide services that consumers want, someone else will step in and provide it as long
> as the demand is there. e.g. if a shop stops selling eggs, someone else will step in and start selling eggs if the
> market wants eggs.

Then there's the real world where the govt chose to hand
great piles of money to telstra to put in cdma bases where
telstra would not otherwise bother to put in a base. And
telstra was very happy to accept that money and spend it.

> If an airline stops flying to a given airport, another airline will come in and fly to that airport if the market
> wants to fly to that airport.

And then there's the real world where even the stupidest polly has
noticed that if the govt doesnt provide the basic infrastructure like
roads and water and power etc, it wont ever be provided in some areas.

> And if Telstra stops providing cellphone service to a given location, another carrier will step in and provide that
> service if the market wants cell service in that location.

And even the stupidest polly has noticed that in some areas the usage
will never be enough to justify that with phones and mobiles phones
and the govt will decide to spend some money on bases in places like
that and use systems like the USO to provide phone services too.

> The only time the government should step in is if a company is abusing its power

And that is precisely what Telstra is doing. They were forced to
resell the cdma system, because it was once the monopoly telco,
and have chosen to turn the cdma system off so that everyone
who is using it has to change to something else and hopefully many
will change to NextG where they are locked into a monopoly again.

> to ensure that services are not provided to people that want said services. As long as there is adequate competition,

There isnt in many low density areas, cretin.

> the government should stay out of it and let the market sort it out.

Then there's the real world.

> And where there are government rules that are restricting competition (such as rules about which airlines can fly to
> which airports) the government should work to remove such obstacles to competition (unless such rules are required to
> maintain Australia's quarantine and/or the health and safety of its citizens)

And then there's the real world where unless
the govt pays for infrastructure, it wont happen.

"Alice" <e@****anddie.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Aren't you emabarassed by the fact that you're continuing to sing the
> praises of a company that doesn't give one flying **** about you?
>
> Allan Parkington wrote:
>> From
>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...22/2097871.htm
>>


Quoting a report from the ABC is "praising telstra"?.. let me guess, you're
a liberal voter..

Aren't you emabarassed by the fact that you're continuing to sing the
praises of a company that doesn't give one flying **** about you?

Allan Parkington wrote:
> From
> http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...22/2097871.htm
>
> Telstra says it's confident all its Territory customers currently using its
> CDMA network will have similar coverage on its new Next G network.
>
> The CDMA network will stop working on January 28.
>
> Telstra spokesman Geoff Booth says people still using the old network should
> buy their new handsets and other equipment as soon as they can.
>
> He says no matter where people live in the Territory, if they had CDMA
> coverage, they'll also have coverage under Next G.
>
> "We drove 12,000 kilometres testing the CDMA network versus the Next G
> network. We've declared to government that we have network equivalence and
> we are very, very confident that that is the case."
>
>

Allan Parkington <[email protected]> wrote
> Alice <e@****anddie.com> wrote
>> Allan Parkington <[email protected]> wrote

>>> From
>>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...22/2097871.htm

>> Aren't you emabarassed by the fact that you're continuing to sing the
>> praises of a company that doesn't give one flying **** about you?

Nope, no one gives a flying red **** about him, so he hasnt got any choice on that.

> Quoting a report from the ABC is "praising telstra"?..

Yep, when you only ever quote the ones that have anything
good to say about telstra, and never ever quote the ones
that dont have anything good to say about telstra, ****wit.

"Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > Yep, when you only ever quote the ones that have anything
> good to say about telstra, and never ever quote the ones
> that dont have anything good to say about telstra, ****wit.
>


Only to "balance up" the anti-telstra diatribe which infects this NG..
Someone needs to inject a voice of reason in this debate.

On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:45:12 GMT, "Allan Parkington"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>From
>http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...22/2097871.htm
>
>Telstra says it's confident all its Territory customers currently using its
>CDMA network will have similar coverage on its new Next G network.

and the rest of Australia? One piece of equivalence doesn't automatically
translate to the rest of oz.

>The CDMA network will stop working on January 28.

maybe.

>Telstra spokesman Geoff Booth says people still using the old network should
>buy their new handsets and other equipment as soon as they can.

why hurry? Most of the 800,000 or 2M still on CDMA will probably give Tel$tra
the arse rather than get locked into a ripoff monopo,y situation again.

>He says no matter where people live in the Territory, if they had CDMA
>coverage, they'll also have coverage under Next G.

and the rest of Australia? One piece of equivalence doesn't automatically
translate to the rest of oz.

>"We drove 12,000 kilometres testing the CDMA network versus the Next G
>network. We've declared to government that we have network equivalence and
>we are very, very confident that that is the case."

"in the Territory". and the rest of Australia? One piece of equivalence
doesn't automatically translate to the rest of oz.

"Allan Parkington" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Rod Speed" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> > Yep, when you only ever quote the ones that have anything
>> good to say about telstra, and never ever quote the ones
>> that dont have anything good to say about telstra, ****wit.
>>
>
>
> Only to "balance up" the anti-telstra diatribe which infects this NG..
> Someone needs to inject a voice of reason in this debate.

Reason?? ROFL.
The only thing you achieve is to get us to question the 'reason' for your
pathetic existence.

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Kwyj.

On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 22:45:12 Allan Parkington may have written:
> "We drove 12,000 kilometres testing the CDMA network versus the Next G
> network. We've declared to government that we have network equivalence
> and we are very, very confident that that is the case."

Hey Michael, you still going to claim that Telstra have never said NextG
gives the same coverage footprint as CDMA?

PD

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Allan Parkington <[email protected]> wrote
> Rod Speed <[email protected]> wrote
>> Allan Parkington <[email protected]> wrote

>>> Quoting a report from the ABC is "praising telstra"?..

>> Yep, when you only ever quote the ones that have anything
>> good to say about telstra, and never ever quote the ones
>> that dont have anything good to say about telstra, ****wit.

> Only to "balance up" the anti-telstra diatribe which infects this NG..

Obvious bare faced lie.

> Someone needs to inject a voice of reason in this debate.

You wouldnt know what the voice of reason what if it bit you on your lard arse, ****wit.

No surprise that you got the bums rush, right out the door on your lard arse.

"Will Kemp" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 11:45:12 +0000, Allan Parkington wrote:
>
>> From
>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...22/2097871.htm
>>
>> Telstra says it's confident all its Territory customers currently using
>> its CDMA network will have similar coverage on its new Next G network.
>
> Which territory is that? The ACT? Christmas Island?
>

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