Limited Service

Hi,

I've just switched my phone on to see a message saying 'Limited
Service' Any idea why I should receive this message?

Thanks

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"species8350" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I've just switched my phone on to see a message saying 'Limited
> Service' Any idea why I should receive this message?
> Thanks
>
>
Do you have a 3G phone in a 2G area?

Steve Terry

On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:50:37 -0700 (PDT), species8350
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I've just switched my phone on to see a message saying 'Limited
>Service' Any idea why I should receive this message?

Could mean that you're not on 3G, could be that you've not paid your
bill, could mean that you've got no coverage...

But seeing as you haven't given us anything to go on (which phone,
which network, you know, *BASIC* information) it's difficult
todiagnose.
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[email protected]>, not_here.5.species8350
@xoxy.net says...
> Hi,
>
> I've just switched my phone on to see a message saying 'Limited
> Service' Any idea why I should receive this message?
>
> Thanks
>
The staff have taken the morning off and you have cook your own
breakfast.

I hate it when that happens.
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In article <fe6dd171-29b5-41ac-9f2a-
[email protected]>, not_here.5.species8350
@xoxy.net says...
> Hi,
>
> I've just switched my phone on to see a message saying 'Limited
> Service' Any idea why I should receive this message?

It means your SIM card has been refused access to the mobile network or
you are out of range of a signal.
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On Aug 24, 3:14*pm, Jon <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <fe6dd171-29b5-41ac-9f2a-
> [email protected]>, not_here.5.species8350
> @xoxy.net says...
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I've just switched my phone on to see a message saying 'Limited
> > Service' Any idea why I should receive this message?
>
> It means your SIM card has been refused access to the mobile network or
> you are out of range of a signal.
> --
> Regards
> Jon

I think that weak signal may be the answer. It is usually quite strong
in this area.

The phone I believe is 2G, and I am investigating the network

Phone is samsung E250

Network is Virgin.

"species8350" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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On Aug 24, 3:14 pm, Jon <[email protected]> wrote:
> In article <fe6dd171-29b5-41ac-9f2a-
> [email protected]>, not_here.5.species8350
> @xoxy.net says...
<snip>
>The phone I believe is 2G, and I am investigating the network
>Phone is samsung E250
>Network is Virgin.
>
>
The Network is T Mobile

Steve Terry

On Aug 24, 5:45*pm, "Steve Terry" <[email protected]> wrote:
> "species8350" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>
> news:b0d1273a-504b-4bab-b3cc-021dc8fd6f46@f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
> On Aug 24, 3:14 pm, Jon <[email protected]> wrote:> In article <fe6dd171-29b5-41ac-9f2a-
> > [email protected]>, not_here.5.species8350
> > @xoxy.net says...
> <snip>
> >The phone I believe is 2G, and I am investigating the network
> >Phone is samsung E250
> >Network is Virgin.
>
> The Network is T Mobile
>
> Steve Terry

Eh! Virgin is T-Mobile???

On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:36:29 -0700 (PDT), species8350
<[email protected]> wrote:

>Eh! Virgin is T-Mobile???

Indeed. Three is Orange; Asda is a network; TescoNet another etc.

There are only 5 GSM mobile networks in this country; that's 4 that
are a mix of 2G and 3G and 1 that's 3G only. They are O2, Orange,
T-Mobile and Vodafone (3G and 2G) and Three (3G).

All other "providers", including Virgin, have an arrangement to
piggy-back on one of the first 4 above. And Three rely on Orange for
their 2G coverage.

I always get my main mobile service from one of the main 4. I'm always
suspicious that the "virtual" providers e.g. Virgin must be more
expensive as there's another middleman involved, though doubtless I'm
wrong! Vodafone seem pretty bloody expensive on their own!!

doug

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In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> I'm always
> suspicious that the "virtual" providers e.g. Virgin must be more
> expensive as there's another middleman involved, though doubtless I'm
> wrong! Vodafone seem pretty bloody expensive on their own!!
>
>
The way it works is, if you are going to buy £20 worth of minutes you
get so much, but if Virgin say, we are going to buy £200million of
minutes, they are going to get a better price. A much better price.
They can then sell you the minutes at somewhere between what you pay for
it normally and what they pay for it.

Add to that they don't have their own equipment to maintain/buy/build,
but can still charge you a monthly rental fee and they make on that.

Add to that the service fee they do pay is marked as a taxable outgoing
so they save on their tax too. That is how they can do it.
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Doug Paulley wrote:


> There are only 5 GSM mobile networks in this country; that's 4 that
> are a mix of 2G and 3G and 1 that's 3G only. They are O2, Orange,
> T-Mobile and Vodafone (3G and 2G) and Three (3G).

There is a sixth, which is specific to the railways. Coverage is
basically only along railway lines, and it can't be used by the public.
>
> All other "providers", including Virgin, have an arrangement to
> piggy-back on one of the first 4 above. And Three rely on Orange for
> their 2G coverage.

Most of the virtual networks use T-mobile, but Tesco uses O2, Asda uses
Vodafone. There is one that uses Orange, but I forget which it is.

> I always get my main mobile service from one of the main 4. I'm always
> suspicious that the "virtual" providers e.g. Virgin must be more
> expensive as there's another middleman involved, though doubtless I'm
> wrong!

Very wrong indeed!

Vodafone seem pretty bloody expensive on their own!!

The virtual networks generally have simplified tariff structures, with
lower charges but fewer special deals (such as Voda's stop the clock)

"Doug Paulley" <[email protected]> wrote in
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> On Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:36:29 -0700 (PDT), species8350
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>Eh! Virgin is T-Mobile???
>
> Indeed. Three is Orange; Asda is a network; TescoNet another etc.
>
> There are only 5 GSM mobile networks in this country; that's 4 that
> are a mix of 2G and 3G and 1 that's 3G only. They are O2, Orange,
> T-Mobile and Vodafone (3G and 2G) and Three (3G).

Nearly right because Three is UMTS and only falls back to [someone else's]
GSM when forced to roam - so in reality there are four GSM provider and one
primarily UMTS provider.

IIRC O2 offer 3G now too giving: -

SP 900 1800 3G
O2 Y Y Y
Voda Y Y Y
Orange N Y ?
T-Mob N Y ?
Three N * Y

There are some trunked mobile operators who can route short calls in/out
their network, but this is not their main business.

>
> All other "providers", including Virgin, have an arrangement to
> piggy-back on one of the first 4 above. And Three rely on Orange for
> their 2G coverage.

* only when you are out of coverage of their 3G network.

>
> I always get my main mobile service from one of the main 4. I'm always
> suspicious that the "virtual" providers e.g. Virgin must be more
> expensive as there's another middleman involved, though doubtless I'm
> wrong! Vodafone seem pretty bloody expensive on their own!!
>
> doug
>
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900Mhz coverage works better way out in the sticks and inside large
buildings. 1800MHz facilitates smaller cells and lower power operation.

R. Mark Clayton wrote:

>
> 900Mhz coverage works better way out in the sticks and inside large
> buildings. 1800MHz facilitates smaller cells and lower power operation.

That's a bit of an over generalisation. 1800 penetrates better into
some buildings because of its shorter wavelength if there are
apertures through which it can enter.

regards, Ian

On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 11:32:47 +0100, Iain <[email protected]>
wrote:

>There is a sixth, which is specific to the railways. Coverage is
>basically only along railway lines, and it can't be used by the public.

I always wondered about that. Being a wheelchair user, and the state
of untogetherness about accessibility assistance etc on the train
network here in Britain, guards have frequently had to phone up
stations etc. using a mobile phone. They never seem to suffer from not
being able to make calls or getting cut off due to reception problems.
I assume the 6th network also helps provide some of the internet
capacity on e.g. National Express trains.

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On Mon, 25 Aug 2008 04:29:10 -0700 (PDT), species8350
<[email protected]> wrote:

>I am not thinking of changing my network, but it occurs to me that I
>am locked into Virgin. But if Virgin uses T-Mobile (same network), I
>wonder if I could use them (T-Mobile using their SIM) without
>unlocking the phone?

unfortunately not :-( if your phone is locked to Virgin, then it won't
accept a T-Mobile SIM, even though they use the same network.

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