Identity theft feared in Cingular store break-in

[This followup was posted to seattle.general and a copy was sent to the
cited author.]

In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/...idtheft02.html
>
> Friday, April 2, 2004
>
> Identity theft feared in Cingular store break-in
>
> SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER STAFF
>
> EVERETT -- More than 600 customers may have had such personal information
> as names, Social Security or credit card numbers stolen during a break-in
> last week at a Cingular Wireless store at 210 S.W. Everett Mall Way.
>
> The affected customers received letters this week alerting them to the
> possibility of identity or bank theft. They include customers who signed
> cellular phone contracts and bought products at the store.
>
> The thieves who broke in March 26 stole computers and business records from
> a locked storeroom that contained the information, according to John Hofer,
> district manager for GoWireless, Cingular's authorized agent.
>
> "We felt it was necessary as a corporation to let our customers know that
> this information could have been jeopardized," he said.
>
> None of the customers who have contacted the company so far has been a
> victim of fraud, he said.
>
>
>
>
>

It would be nice to know if it was just customers of that store or every
cingular customer.
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"Johnny X" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> It would be nice to know if it was just customers of that store or every
> cingular customer.
> --
> -

The only way that could happen is if the entire Cingular customer database
were loaded on that machine, and that is not going to be the case.

"Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> ":P" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > It really wasn't a Cingular Wireless store, it wasn an authorized agent.
> >
>
> Hmmm- guess Cingular didn't need the Kelly girls after all, did they
Robert?
>
> And I guess if customers did get letters from Cingular,

We got them from Go Wireless, not Cingular.................genius.

"Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Johnny X" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > It would be nice to know if it was just customers of that store or every
> > cingular customer.
> > --
> > -
>
> The only way that could happen is if the entire Cingular customer database
> were loaded on that machine, and that is not going to be the case.

Most of what the agents do is web based. They won't get nearly as much off
the machines as they will from the paper files that we're
lifted....................genius.

"Mr.Excitement" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > ":P" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > It really wasn't a Cingular Wireless store, it wasn an authorized
agent.
> > >
> >
> > Hmmm- guess Cingular didn't need the Kelly girls after all, did they
> Robert?
> >
> > And I guess if customers did get letters from Cingular,
>
> We got them from Go Wireless, not Cingular.................genius.
>
>

Even better, and a fact that you left out until now. Sort of a 'guilt by
omission' scenario. With all that said, can you explain your rantings about
Cingular liability when:

-they didn't own the store.
-they don't employ any of the people responsible for securing the store.
-they had no connection to the break-in, other than some of their
subscribers were affected.

Would they be liable if the bank they do business with had the same type of
break-in?

So, genius- I'll be interested to hear Cingular's liability, now that all of
the facts are out.

And if this was a pissing match, why are you smelling like ****?

"Mr.Excitement" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Johnny X" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> >
> > > It would be nice to know if it was just customers of that store or
every
> > > cingular customer.
> > > --
> > > -
> >
> > The only way that could happen is if the entire Cingular customer
database
> > were loaded on that machine, and that is not going to be the case.
>
> Most of what the agents do is web based. They won't get nearly as much
off
> the machines as they will from the paper files that we're
> lifted....................genius.
>
>

Nice- didn't have anything to do with the previous post. Further proof that
Darwin was right. That is, unless you are stupid enough to think that a
contracted dealer has paper files on ALL CIngular customers. What? They
don't? Then I guess your answer really doesn't pertain. Imagine that.

On Sun, 4 Apr 2004 09:44:54 -0600, "Scott Stephenson"
<[email protected]> wrote:

>
>"Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>
>>
>> OK, Better yet. make a phone call, and follow up with a letter.
>>
>
>And where do you propose they get the numbers of those people who had been
>in the store and used their CC to just purchase accessories?
>

>

Probably the same place they would get the addresses for the letters.

"Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Mr.Excitement" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > ":P" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > It really wasn't a Cingular Wireless store, it wasn an authorized
> agent.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hmmm- guess Cingular didn't need the Kelly girls after all, did they
> > Robert?
> > >
> > > And I guess if customers did get letters from Cingular,
> >
> > We got them from Go Wireless, not Cingular.................genius.
> >
> >
>
> Even better, and a fact that you left out until now. Sort of a 'guilt by
> omission' scenario. With all that said, can you explain your rantings
about
> Cingular liability when:

Uh, that wasn't me. Keep up with the conversation........genius.


>
> -they didn't own the store.
> -they don't employ any of the people responsible for securing the store.
> -they had no connection to the break-in, other than some of their
> subscribers were affected.
>
> Would they be liable if the bank they do business with had the same type
of
> break-in?
>
> So, genius- I'll be interested to hear Cingular's liability, now that all
of
> the facts are out.
>
> And if this was a pissing match, why are you smelling like ****?
>
>

"Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Mr.Excitement" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> >
> > "Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > "Johnny X" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > >
> > > > It would be nice to know if it was just customers of that store or
> every
> > > > cingular customer.
> > > > --
> > > > -
> > >
> > > The only way that could happen is if the entire Cingular customer
> database
> > > were loaded on that machine, and that is not going to be the case.
> >
> > Most of what the agents do is web based. They won't get nearly as much
> off
> > the machines as they will from the paper files that we're
> > lifted....................genius.
> >
> >
>
> Nice- didn't have anything to do with the previous post. Further proof
that
> Darwin was right. That is, unless you are stupid enough to think that a
> contracted dealer has paper files on ALL CIngular customers. What? They
> don't? Then I guess your answer really doesn't pertain. Imagine that.

Well, they had paper files for 600 of them.........genius.

>
>

"Mr.Excitement" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>
> Well, they had paper files for 600 of them.........genius.
>

And the question was asked about ALL Cingular customers...........moron.

Keep up with the conversation.

"Mr.Excitement" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news[email protected]...

>
> Uh, that wasn't me. Keep up with the conversation........genius.
>


You're right- you're the moron who just sits back and offers nothing on
either side- no facts, no citings- just juvenile responses that resemble the
mentality of my three year old when she sticks her tongue out at her
brother. I simply got my trolls confused.

"Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Mr.Excitement" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> >
> > Well, they had paper files for 600 of them.........genius.
> >
>
> And the question was asked about ALL Cingular customers...........moron.
>
> Keep up with the conversation.

Your intellectual dishonesty makes you look a
fool.....................genius.

"Scott Stephenson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>
> "Mr.Excitement" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news[email protected]...
>
> >
> > Uh, that wasn't me. Keep up with the conversation........genius.
> >
>
>
> You're right- you're the moron who just sits back and offers nothing on
> either side- no facts, no citings- just juvenile responses that resemble
the
> mentality of my three year old when she sticks her tongue out at her
> brother. I simply got my trolls confused.

You did get them confused. I am the troll who is involved in the
situation.................genius