Apple iPhone is GSM

"Edgar" <ecamacho4_nospam@nospam_hotmail.com> wrote in
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> I guess so, I'd rather just have the ability to do what I want right
> out of the box, which is pretty much what my PDA does (not everything,
> but almost everything).
>
> --
> Edgar
>
>

Edgar, is your PDA an Axim or Ipaq under WM5? If so, does it crash a lot?

I asked because I returned Dell's Axim X51v in 10 days because WM5 crashed
so many times a day it was unnerving, plus the stupid thing wouldn't talk
to anything Bluetooth mobile like HEADSETS or LAPTOPS, which is stupid.
You could pair with the headset, but the audio codec selector was greyed
out and no audio was forthcoming. Even Dell's own "Switcher" would
completely lose touch with WM5 just sitting there, doing nothing...reset,
reset, reset....RETURN for CREDIT. I hated its short battery life.

I'm carrying my old Razor Edge Hotsync'd to the laptop, again. I have to
charge it once a week because of all the clock toys and gadgets running all
the time....(c;



Larry
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At 11 Jan 2007 20:31:43 -0600 Bill wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 13:27:19 -0700, Todd Allcock
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >iPhone? We don't need no steenking iPhone! ;-)
>
> Looks like you won't be getting one, at least not from Apple.
>
> Seems SUN has owned that copyrighted name for several
> years, and has already filed suit to stop the former Apple
> Computer (now, just Apple Inc) from stealing THEIR name.
>
> If they overlooked something this easy to check, the odds
> the product will do anything but suck wind aren't too good.
>
> Bill

They didn't overlook it- the were in negotiations with Cisco to use the
name. The negotiations weren't complete by the time of the Apple iPhone
introduction, so Apple went ahead with it anyway. I suspect this
"lawsuit" of Cisco's was simply a way to piggyback on all of the press
about the iPhone. (What article thatcovers the suit isn't going to
explain what a Linksys iPhone is?) Previously, outside of Voip
hobbyists, who the heck had heard of the Cisco/Linksys "iPhone" anyway?
Today, everyone has! You can't buy that kind of advertising.

I suspect the negotiations will be finished in a week and both companies
will still be "friends," both having benefitted from a few dozen more
articles written about them...



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It is alleged that Larry claimed:

> http://reviews.cnet.com/DMC_Xclef_HD...-31212346.html
> Precisely why I'd never buy one. My favorite player is still the Xclef
> 500 that used to be sold by Digital Mind in CA. There must be thousands

That thing's a monster!

> of hours of runtime on mine, all with no problems whatsoever. I bought
> it as the 100GB unit, but got a steal on a 120GB 2.5" laptop drive (the
> Xclef uses STANDARD parts like STANDARD laptop drives) so I swapped it
> out and put the 100GB drive in my 60GB laptop for more space (at lower
> power). Xclef supports up to 137GB on its disk-based operating system
> I've been told is a subset of Linux. It does take up to 2 minutes to
> "boot up" on initial powerup, especially on such large drives because the
> OS and software catalogs all the IDE tags on all the tens of thousands of
> songs on bootup. Shuffle doesn't mean just 50 songs. One of the
> settings is to "shuffle" the entire drive!

Shuffle on my Zen shuffle--plays everything. And it can play the music
I've purchased from Napster, etc. Where's the problem? Only problem I
foresee is if/when I eventually bump into its 30GB storage capacity.
But by then, something with more capacity will be available. Hell,
there's one with double the capacity available now.

> It plays any MP3, OGG, WMA, WAV or ASF file. I begged, with this big

According to that review, it does not play protected wma. That means I
won't be getting one.

> The Xclef is an external hard drive, as far as any OS with a USB port is
> concerned. It's a FAT32 standard drive you can onload/offload anything
> you like music, video, programs, backup your laptop, whatever. The MP3

So's my Zen. It's visible as a drive in Windows Explorer, and it also
has a "drive mode" config where you can tell it to allocate a user-set
amount of space specifically to be a portable drive for other data.

> player is separate from this function so there's no RIAA/MPAA stumbleware
> to screw up loading. Use your fav file handler....or faster, use DOS or
> Linux direct! It loads and copys as fast as my 500GB Seagate USB
> externals, not plods along like a crippled EPROM burner. I copy DIVX

My Zen is zippy on transfers, as long as I don't use the
Creative-supplied software, that is. Using Winamp, it's speedy.

> movies to it and play them, directly, on my laptop. It runs over 20

My Zen can play movies without needing to hook it up to anything but a
pair of headphones. With the dock adapter, I can line-out both video
and audio to anything with a/v inputs. I can probably plug it into a
computer via USB and stream a movie file directly, but I haven't tried.
Movies aren't why I got it.

> hours on a charge and, as it has its own power supply, a STANDARD Li-Ion
> any camera shop has in stock, it doesn't burn up the laptop's pitiful
> runtime running the external drive. It also records from Line IN stereo
> up to 320Kbps or its little internal mic at slow speed, all direct to MP3
> format. You can even record, directly to MP3 format, from its own
> internal FM digital tuner, which is great for FM radio remote mics....for
> hours and hours and hours on a charge.

Ah, so that's a use for having an FM receiver in my Zen. I never
thought of that.

> I don't jog, so its larger size than the girly Ipod isn't an issue. It
> comes with a really nice leather case with belt clip but you wouldn't run
> with it. The battery recharges after 20 hours use in about 90 minutes
> flat.

I don't know how long it takes to recharge the Zen from flat. The only
time it got that low, I just dropped it in the cradle overnight. Plus,
it's small enough to fit in my pocket, or I can place it in my
dash-mounted phone holder instead of my Treo, if I want to see the
display while driving.

> drives or NO DRIVE at all and put in your own 2.5" drive up to 137GB.

FAT32, then.

> God I hate hobbled up electronic **** that makes people slaves to Itunes
> or any money pit like that. What a crock, 99c/song! Sansdisc makes a
> nice, non-hobbled tiny player I recommend. Buy the biggest drive you can
> afford. Take all the songs in your pocket...(c

Just because I CAN buy music from Napster doesn't mean that I have to.
I only buy online like that if I either cannot find a CD with what I
want or if what I want is the only track on the CD I want. I prefer to
own the hard media, but when faced with the choice of $15~$20 for a CD
with one track I want out of a dozen vs $0.99 to download just that one
track, I'll buy the download, thankyouverymuch.

When I was using an iPod, I never connected it to iTunes at all, after
the initial setup. I think I purchased one track off of the iTunes
store, before I realized that it wouldn't play in my preferred desktop
player (Winamp).

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On 1/11/2007 12:47 PM, Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:
> It is alleged that Larry claimed:
>
>>> You can definitely play native MP3s on all current iPods.
>> Thanks! My buddy's little girl got a Nano for Christmas. I'll see if I
>> can get her downloaded MP3s working on it this weekend.
>
> Where were they downloaded from? If they are "rights protected" music
> (Napster, eMusic, etc) then they will not play on the iPod. At all.
> They will play on players from anyone else, though.
>
> There are two mutually incompatible rights management schemes in use,
> one from Microsoft and one from Apple, and music locked with one will
> not work on the other's players. Guess which one the iPod uses.
>
> Rhapsody is the only online store I know of that offers music in either
> format, but you cannot choose on the fly, you need to set it as an
> account preference. iTunes is Apple only, Napster, etc, are MS only.
>
> Unprotected mp3s can be used on any player.
>
> wma tracks, protected or not, will only work on players designed to
> work with the MS rights scheme.
>
> NOTE: I mention wma mainly because a lot of people don't actually
> realize that music purchased from Napster, etc, is wma not mp3, and
> music purchased from iTunes is some variant of acc, not mp3. The mp3
> format does not actually have provisions for digital rights management.
>
Unprotected WMAs can be converted to MP3s from within WMP and then
imported to iTunes. I've done it with WMAs downloaded from
acidplanet.com. Also, I believe even protected WMAs can be burned to an
unprotected audio CDR, just as one can do with protected tracks in iTunes.

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Larry wrote:
> Jer <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:
>
>> Rotary dial? I seen one in the city last week. Mabel down at Phone
>> Central is still connecting calls to the feed store. Two shorts and a
>> long. Yeeeee Hawww!
>>
>> --
>> jer
>> email reply - I am not a 'ten'
>>
>
> It's hard to pry the handset of his "Carphone" out of his cold, dead
> hands....(c;
>
> MTS forever!
>
> REAL carphones kill a car battery in 30 minutes!
>
>
>
> Larry


Moto TLD-1100 roolz!!

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In article <[email protected]>, Larry
<[email protected]> wrote:

> A good test of any music or video player is to use the copy function of
> Windows Explorer to copy music from the computer to the device. Then, copy
> the music or video from the device to another computer. If the device
> won't play the file moved to it in this manner, or allow the file to be
> copied to another computer, it is automatically disqualified from being
> purchased, IMHO.
>
> I don't buy Hobbleware.....

Don't ***** at the equipment manufacturers, ***** at the entertainment
companies for their DRM.

Jer <[email protected]> wrote in news:[email protected]:

> Moto TLD-1100 roolz!!
>
>

Carphones only count if they have MOTOR-GENERATORs....(c; You can hear the
M-G set winding up in the trunk when you press one of the channel
buttons....dimming the headlights in the process...(c;

Larry
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Randall Ainsworth <[email protected]> wrote in
news:120120070535153154%[email protected]:

> Don't ***** at the equipment manufacturers, ***** at the entertainment
> companies for their DRM.
>
>

Not one of the equipment manufacturers is required to include the
hobbleware into their products, as is self-evident by the number of players
that will play and copy music and movie files, unmolested.

Larry
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"Michael D. Sullivan" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:LKGph.17655$rz3.15429@trnddc03:

> Unprotected WMAs can be converted to MP3s from within WMP and then
> imported to iTunes. I've done it with WMAs downloaded from
> acidplanet.com. Also, I believe even protected WMAs can be burned to
> an unprotected audio CDR, just as one can do with protected tracks in
> iTunes.
>
> --
> Michael D. Sullivan
> Bethesda, MD (USA)
> (To reply, change example.invalid to com in the address.)
>

How long does that take for, say, 15GB of music....a few thousand files?

By the way, for anyone interested, there is an excellent program called
Total Recorder from High Criteria (www.totalrecorder.com)that sits in the
audio data stream of your sound card like a proxy server. It will rip
ANYTHING, protected by anything, that is playable on your PC. Webpage
streams with proprietary interfaces, no problem. Any audio source,
whether analog plugged into your soundcard or data from any program sent
to your soundcard. Hmm...I see there's a new version I haven't upgraded
to that now does protected videos...(c; TR encodes into many formats and
speeds on-the-fly whether "they" like it or not...always a good thing.

I use it to do scheduled recording of streams to listen to in my car from
the Xclef beast.



Larry
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"Todd Allcock" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> At 11 Jan 2007 13:42:59 -0800 Edgar wrote:
>
>> Don't know if your phone has the latest version of WM5, but it does not
>> automatically turn off the gprs when it's done so doing the 15 minute
> thing
>> will still leave it on on most newer phones. Keep that in mind.
>
> Thanks. I'll keep that in mind- I'm running AKU2.


Then it will stay on till you turn it off manually. I would advise against
the check every 15 minutes if your worried about battery life.

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"Larry" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Edgar" <ecamacho4_nospam@nospam_hotmail.com> wrote in
> news:[email protected]:
>
>> I guess so, I'd rather just have the ability to do what I want right
>> out of the box, which is pretty much what my PDA does (not everything,
>> but almost everything).
>>
>> --
>> Edgar
>>
>>
>
> Edgar, is your PDA an Axim or Ipaq under WM5? If so, does it crash a lot?
>
> I asked because I returned Dell's Axim X51v in 10 days because WM5 crashed
> so many times a day it was unnerving, plus the stupid thing wouldn't talk
> to anything Bluetooth mobile like HEADSETS or LAPTOPS, which is stupid.
> You could pair with the headset, but the audio codec selector was greyed
> out and no audio was forthcoming. Even Dell's own "Switcher" would
> completely lose touch with WM5 just sitting there, doing nothing...reset,
> reset, reset....RETURN for CREDIT. I hated its short battery life.
>
> I'm carrying my old Razor Edge Hotsync'd to the laptop, again. I have to
> charge it once a week because of all the clock toys and gadgets running
> all
> the time....(c;
>
>
>
> Larry
> --
> Extremely intelligent life exists that is so smart they never called
> Earth.

No I have a Verizon XV6700. To be honest it is not perfect, and probably
not nearly as good as an iPhone, but future WM5 phones should start
competing now that Apple is in the game. I have found that my phone is very
nitpicky about the memory card (as it seems many phones are) due to the way
it comes out of sleep mode. I have gone through about 3 hard resets trying
to find the perfect set-up and I finally have, and it works perfectly now.
Main thing is anything that needs to run constantly or has something,
ANYTHING, on the today screen needs to be installed or running off the
device. I thought I had done that last time but I realized I was putting
program icons in SPB Pocket Plus that were from programs installed on the
memory card. It would cause a lot of slowdown, and sometimes the icons
would not even show properly. Now it is not exactly how I want it but it
runs very smoothly, and I can get to all the most important stuff.
Everything else is just a couple extra clicks away. I admit I had to also
tweak the registry to make it run smoother as well. Nothing an average
person would do, but then again an average person wouldn't even bother with
the amount of programs I installed on this thing. I certainly think future
PDAs will only get better, and part of it would probably be thanks in part
to the iPhone if it can go mainstream.

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Larry wrote:

> By the way, for anyone interested, there is an excellent program called
> Total Recorder from High Criteria (www.totalrecorder.com)that sits in the
> audio data stream of your sound card like a proxy server. It will rip
> ANYTHING, protected by anything, that is playable on your PC. Webpage
> streams with proprietary interfaces, no problem. Any audio source,
> whether analog plugged into your soundcard or data from any program sent
> to your soundcard. Hmm...I see there's a new version I haven't upgraded
> to that now does protected videos...(c; TR encodes into many formats and
> speeds on-the-fly whether "they" like it or not...always a good thing.

For the Mac, AudioHijackPro will do the same.

-Jason

It is alleged that Larry claimed:

> By the way, for anyone interested, there is an excellent program called
> Total Recorder from High Criteria (www.totalrecorder.com)that sits in the
> audio data stream of your sound card like a proxy server. It will rip

Can it discriminate the input? IOW, can it re-record music playing
from, say, Winamp or Windows Media Player while ignoring the new-mail
alert from my email client and other system sounds?

If not, what else does it do that would make it better than the "what
you hear" recording ability and media converter that came free with my
sound card?

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At 12 Jan 2007 13:18:51 -0500 Larry wrote:

> Not one of the equipment manufacturers is required to include the
> hobbleware into their products, as is self-evident by the number of
players
> that will play and copy music and movie files, unmolested.

What is the harm in a player that will play DRM'd files as long as it
also plays unprotected ones? Seems like the best of both worlds to me.
Otherwise it'd be like a DVD player that could only play discs you burn
yourself, but not those purchased in stores.




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Todd Allcock wrote:
> At 12 Jan 2007 13:18:51 -0500 Larry wrote:
>
> > Not one of the equipment manufacturers is required to include the
> > hobbleware into their products, as is self-evident by the number of
> players
> > that will play and copy music and movie files, unmolested.
>
> What is the harm in a player that will play DRM'd files as long as it
> also plays unprotected ones? Seems like the best of both worlds to me.
> Otherwise it'd be like a DVD player that could only play discs you burn
> yourself, but not those purchased in stores.

The more DRM players there are, the more files will be produced with
DRM. If no one had a DRM player, the content companies would be forced
to choose between releasing files in open formats or not releasing them
at all - and of course they'd choose the former.

Jesse