contract for daughter

Steve Terry wrote:

>>
> No comparison between the T Mobile network that Virgin use and Voda
>
> Voda wins hands down

Strange. My wife and daughter moved on to Voda for a year (last
year) and the call (audio) quality to both was dire. The locations
were different - one in Bedford and the other in London. I found the
same when I have a Voda from work. All were 2G.

I've found the call quality on T-mobile, Orange and O2 (2G) all OK,
with 3 being excellent (down to 3G I guess).

I'd think twice about using Voda simply because of the poor audio
quality I've experienced.

regards, Ian

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On 2008-08-14 07:59:21 +0100, "J B" <[email protected]> said:

> "Keith Barrett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Looking at contract options for my daughter.
>
> My daughter2 has Orange payg and when you top up with a tenner a month
> she gets 300 'free' texts.
> If you put on a twenty, you get more - can't remember how many
>
> This NOT available to new customers, but if you could find an old sim
> card .......
>
> ?

Um, yes it is. It's called Dolphin.

http://www.orange.co.uk/payg

"Keith Barrett" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Looking at contract options for my daughter.
>
> We have a few handsets arround so a sim only would be accepted.
>
> Problem is, dad will end up paying the bill.
>
> I am wondering if any of the providers will allow the inclusive texts
> and minutes but not allow any chargeable calls?
>
> I have found an offer on the vodaphone site for 1000 monthly texts and,
> I think, 150 minutes, for £15 a month. As far as I can gather, most
> of her activities are texting.
>
> Hard to think that she could use all those texts but I would rather not
> have a huge unexpected bill.
>
> I suppose payg would be the safe way but I am told the price per text is
> much higher than on contract.
>
>
>
> --
> Keith Barrett
> www.barrettpianos.co.uk

o2 simplicity comes with a free bolt on for £20, a superb deal, no minimum
term, 600 mins a month and a thousand texts, check out the bolt ons, they
are amazing value.

http://shop.o2.co.uk/extras

Gaz

"Ian Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Steve Terry wrote:
>
>> No comparison between the T Mobile network that Virgin use and Voda
>> Voda wins hands down
>
> Strange. My wife and daughter moved on to Voda for a year (last year) and
> the call (audio) quality to both was dire. The locations were different -
> one in Bedford and the other in London. I found the same when I have a
> Voda from work. All were 2G.
>
There's your problem, voda go to half rate at peak times on 2g
>
> I've found the call quality on T-mobile, Orange and O2 (2G) all OK, with 3
> being excellent (down to 3G I guess).
>
> I'd think twice about using Voda simply because of the poor audio quality
> I've experienced.
> regards, Ian
>
What sound quality would you get from T Mobile in one of their
many black spots?

Using Voda i would look for an unlocked 3g phone and make
sure the Voda sim is 3g/2g compatible
Or simply go for a voda phone deal that included a 3g phone

Steve Terry

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:25:33 +0100, Sam Nelson wrote:

> There ought to be `family-friendly' contracts out there, whereby you run
> an entire family's phones from the one contract,

From http://www.familymobile.co.uk/:

"Family budget
You can set up as many individual mobile accounts as you like from a
single master account. Parents are able to manage their children's mobile
usage through this account."

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Convergence, n: The act of using separate DSL circuits for voice and data

In article <[email protected]>,
alexd <[email protected]> writes:
> On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:25:33 +0100, Sam Nelson wrote:
>
> > There ought to be `family-friendly' contracts out there, whereby you run
> > an entire family's phones from the one contract,
>
> From http://www.familymobile.co.uk/:
>
> "Family budget
> You can set up as many individual mobile accounts as you like from a
> single master account. Parents are able to manage their children's mobile
> usage through this account."

Close, but no cigar. I want it to look like a plain ordinary contract, from
the parental PoV, and I want the kids' usage to join in with that contract
when they call one of a small set of numbers, but otherwise to look like PAYG
to them.

Half a dozen years ago, I found a 11/12yo boy hiding behind our wheelie-bin
sobbing his socks off, because he knew that up the hill, half a dozen older
boys were waiting to kick the **** out of him because of some disagreement
involving an older brother. He couldn't call home for help because he'd
run out of credit. My kids were at primary school at the time and neither
had, or needed, a phone, but it struck me then that a mobile phone system
that can't sove that problem has an unpleasant flaw---one I'd like to avoid
when it comes to my own kids using them. I took him home---or, at least,
near enough home that he wasn't worried any more.

Oh, and FamilyMobile uses T-Mobile, which might work OK for my daughter,
while she's still with Virgin (most of her mobile activity is actually
from home, and there's a mast on the hill opposite) but is no use to me
at all, from the coverage PoV.
--
SAm.

In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> Close, but no cigar. I want it to look like a plain ordinary contract, from
> the parental PoV, and I want the kids' usage to join in with that contract
> when they call one of a small set of numbers, but otherwise to look like PAYG
> to them.

Orange have a system called "your group" which matches your description
to a tee.

http://www1.orange.co.uk/service_pla...up_overview.ht
ml

That might wrap.
--
Regards
Jon

In article <[email protected]>,
Jon <[email protected]> writes:
> In article <[email protected]>, [email protected] says...
> > Close, but no cigar. I want it to look like a plain ordinary contract, from
> > the parental PoV, and I want the kids' usage to join in with that contract
> > when they call one of a small set of numbers, but otherwise to look like PAYG
> > to them.
>
> Orange have a system called "your group" which matches your description
> to a tee.
>
> http://www1.orange.co.uk/service_pla...up_overview.ht
> ml
>
> That might wrap.

That's useful, thanks. The reason I didn't go to Orange when I was looking
to leave V a couple of years ago is that they couldn't ever get SMS to work
on any of the three spare phones I offered them. I collected a `plain
ordinary PAYG' SIM for three non-V providers with the intention of carrying
a spare phone with each SIM in it around with me to check coverage.

T-Mobile coverage turned out to be woeful, and Orange never got my old T68i,
k750i, or k800i (all unlocked to start with or professionally unlocked, and
all capable of doing so on other networks) to be capable of sending a text
message. The combined wisdom of my local Orange shop shrugged its collective
shoulders at me eventually, and I walked. I'm a satisfied O2 customer now,
and sometime next week when the PAC arrives, my daughter will be as well.
--
SAm.

"Ian Smith" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Steve Terry wrote:
>
>>>
>> No comparison between the T Mobile network that Virgin use and Voda
>>
>> Voda wins hands down
>
> Strange. My wife and daughter moved on to Voda for a year (last year) and
> the call (audio) quality to both was dire. The locations were different -
> one in Bedford and the other in London. I found the same when I have a
> Voda from work. All were 2G.
>
> I've found the call quality on T-mobile, Orange and O2 (2G) all OK, with 3
> being excellent (down to 3G I guess).
>
> I'd think twice about using Voda simply because of the poor audio quality
> I've experienced.

Is your phone set up right?

>
> regards, Ian

In news:[email protected],
Sam Nelson <[email protected]> typed, for some strange, unexplained reason:

[snip]

: Whenever someone calls the house phone and I answer and the call is
: for one of the kids, I tend to pass the handset over with the words
: `remember, it's going on their bill'. Beats me why two girls that
: are going to be within speaking distance in an hour need to talk to
: each other on the phone for half of that---but then, that isn't just
: a `next generation' thing.

When I used to drive buses they (it was always without exception teenage
girls) used to ring up their mates as they were getting up to get off the
bus and going "hey, I can see you..!" while waving out of the window.

Why, FFS..?!!

I remember the manager of our local Orange shop telling me once that he
had regular customers (again, *always* teenage girls) who would put £5 of
credit on their PAYG phones and then come back in the next day for another
fiver..!

I'm just glad I don't have kids..!


Ivor

"Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In news:[email protected],
> Steve Terry <[email protected]> typed, for some strange, unexplained
> reason:
> : "Sam Nelson" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> : news:[email protected]...
> : > In article <[email protected]>,
> : > Iain <[email protected]> writes:
> : >> Sam Nelson wrote:
> : >
> : > Whenever someone calls the house phone and I answer and the call is
> : > for one
> : > of the kids, I tend to pass the handset over with the words
> : > `remember, it's
> : > going on their bill'. Beats me why two girls that are going to be
> : > within speaking distance in an hour need to talk to each other on
> : > the phone for half of that---but then, that isn't just a `next
> : > generation' thing.
> : > SAm.
> : >
> : Get them to each buy a 3 PAYT Skype phones (under 50 quid)
> : and a minimum of Stretch 15 (15quid a month) to get free Skype
>
> Fifteen quid a month to get something free..? Isn't that an oxymoron..?
>
> Wouldn't touch Skype with a bargepole, use proper VoIP.
> Ivor
>
OK so how would you propose to use VOI on which mobile phones,
on what network, for how much?

Steve Terry

In news:[email protected],
Steve Terry <[email protected]> typed, for some strange, unexplained
reason:
: "Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
: news:[email protected]...

[snip]

: > Wouldn't touch Skype with a bargepole, use proper VoIP.

: OK so how would you propose to use VOI on which mobile phones,
: on what network, for how much?

I wouldn't. I only use mobiles for calls that are essential while out.
Anything else can wait until I get home or to the office where landlines
and/or VoIP are available.

However a phone with WiFi would enable SIP to be used at a suitable
hotspot.


Ivor

"Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In news:[email protected],
> Steve Terry <[email protected]> typed, for some strange, unexplained
> reason:
> : "Ivor Jones" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> : news:[email protected]...
>
> [snip]
>
> : > Wouldn't touch Skype with a bargepole, use proper VoIP.
>
> : OK so how would you propose to use VOI on which mobile phones,
> : on what network, for how much?
>
> I wouldn't. I only use mobiles for calls that are essential while out.
> Anything else can wait until I get home or to the office where landlines
> and/or VoIP are available.
>
> However a phone with WiFi would enable SIP to be used at a suitable
> hotspot.
> Ivor
>
>
Thank you for your incredibly helpful input on mobile phones,
i think you are lost uk.telecom.broadband is over there.

Steve Terry

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:23:23 +0100, Ivor Jones wrote:

> I'm just glad I don't have kids..!

Rest assured, the feeling is mutual.

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In news:[email protected],
alexd <[email protected]> typed, for some strange, unexplained reason:
: On Fri, 15 Aug 2008 23:23:23 +0100, Ivor Jones wrote:
:
: > I'm just glad I don't have kids..!
:
: Rest assured, the feeling is mutual.

That's rather a sweeping statement, given that (AFAIK) we've never met.

Do you have a reply that is on topic..?


Ivor