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  1. #1
    dotssquared
    Guest
    There gotta be a better solution than the one where if your Treo 600 for
    whatever reason goes into this infamous boot loop - and you only choice is
    to press yes to erase all data and then it will start up... What would be a
    solution/approach to this? If we bought a memory card - could we put on it
    the apps like AIM, Eudora Mail and our data so it is separate and not in the
    Treo's memory stuff? Not quite sure yet how to "move" or install the apps
    themselves (AIM, Eudora) onto a memory card, would appreciate somet thoughts
    on this. We do try various "reset" approaches, pin in the reset hole,
    pressing a key while rebooting etc. no luck.

    We keep encountering this boot-loop and it is a real pisser when it happens
    out on the road and it absolutely insists on erasing everything - just to
    restart - - it needs a better solution and we need to stop having our data
    erased which renders using the T600 kind of useless with the contacts,
    emails, appts, etc gone.





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  2. #2
    Robert M.
    Guest

    Re: Treo 600 boot loop and erase all

    In article <[email protected]>,
    "dotssquared" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > There gotta be a better solution than the one where if your Treo 600 for
    > whatever reason goes into this infamous boot loop - and you only choice is
    > to press yes to erase all data and then it will start up... What would be a
    > solution/approach to this? If we bought a memory card - could we put on it
    > the apps like AIM, Eudora Mail and our data so it is separate and not in the
    > Treo's memory stuff? Not quite sure yet how to "move" or install the apps
    > themselves (AIM, Eudora) onto a memory card, would appreciate somet thoughts
    > on this. We do try various "reset" approaches, pin in the reset hole,
    > pressing a key while rebooting etc. no luck.
    >
    > We keep encountering this boot-loop and it is a real pisser when it happens
    > out on the road and it absolutely insists on erasing everything - just to
    > restart - - it needs a better solution and we need to stop having our data
    > erased which renders using the T600 kind of useless with the contacts,
    > emails, appts, etc gone.


    The thing is a Palm Phone is not quite a Palm Pilot, and so any
    application which "should" work, might cause issues. If you've synched
    your phone to your PC (or Mac) you should be able to retreive all your
    data. Keep track of applications/hacks you INSTALL on your Treo. When
    problems occur, it's likely that the last thing you INSTALLED caused the
    problem.



  3. #3
    dotssquared
    Guest

    Re: Treo 600 boot loop and erase all


    "Robert M." <[email protected]> wrote in message
    news:[email protected]
    > In article <[email protected]>,
    > "dotssquared" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >
    > > There gotta be a better solution than the one where if your Treo 600 for
    > > whatever reason goes into this infamous boot loop - and you only choice

    is
    > > to press yes to erase all data and then it will start up... What would

    be a
    > > solution/approach to this? If we bought a memory card - could we put on

    it
    > > the apps like AIM, Eudora Mail and our data so it is separate and not in

    the
    > > Treo's memory stuff? Not quite sure yet how to "move" or install the

    apps
    > > themselves (AIM, Eudora) onto a memory card, would appreciate somet

    thoughts
    > > on this. We do try various "reset" approaches, pin in the reset hole,
    > > pressing a key while rebooting etc. no luck.
    > >
    > > We keep encountering this boot-loop and it is a real pisser when it

    happens
    > > out on the road and it absolutely insists on erasing everything - just

    to
    > > restart - - it needs a better solution and we need to stop having our

    data
    > > erased which renders using the T600 kind of useless with the contacts,
    > > emails, appts, etc gone.

    >
    > The thing is a Palm Phone is not quite a Palm Pilot, and so any
    > application which "should" work, might cause issues. If you've synched
    > your phone to your PC (or Mac) you should be able to retreive all your
    > data. Keep track of applications/hacks you INSTALL on your Treo. When
    > problems occur, it's likely that the last thing you INSTALLED caused the
    > problem.


    The only 2 apps we have installed is the AIM and the Eudora mail. But yes we
    are able to synch up once we get back in the office etc. But could we
    avoid the "erase all" problem if we had apps and data on a memory card
    instead of in the Treo? Or? Just trying to find a solution to allow the palm
    to do the "erase all" but we still have our data and apps etc.and can get
    things going without having to return to office etc.

    Thanks Robert!





  4. #4

    Re: Treo 600 boot loop and erase all


    Take a look at Botzam Backup
    (http://www.botzam.com/bzbackup_details.htm). You can do a full,
    encrypted backup to your SDMem card. This should solve your
    away-from-the-computer resynch problem.

    How the heck are you getting into this reboot problem? I've never
    encountered it. Have you presented the problem to Palm/Handspring or
    Sprint PCS? Is there some particular application that you suspect?




  5. #5
    dotssquared
    Guest

    Re: Treo 600 boot loop and erase all


    "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
    message news:Pal5c.30528$[email protected]
    >
    > Take a look at Botzam Backup
    > (http://www.botzam.com/bzbackup_details.htm). You can do a full,
    > encrypted backup to your SDMem card. This should solve your
    > away-from-the-computer resynch problem.
    >
    > How the heck are you getting into this reboot problem? I've never
    > encountered it. Have you presented the problem to Palm/Handspring or
    > Sprint PCS? Is there some particular application that you suspect?
    >


    No we have not yet told sprint/handspring/palm - we just got the T600 a week
    ago, and our suspect is the AIM (the one we paid for - not that buried
    "aim-clone" in sprints portal), and or the Eudora mail. We only installed
    the eurdora mail and the synch - we did not install the eudora web
    componet - not need it.

    I am perfectly willing to take this back to Sprint and demand it be
    replaced - this boot loop has happend repeatedly many times - often while we
    are doing something, such as logged into AIM and something else happens on
    the T600, such as an alarm, or we have to switch.

    The very first time this started happening was when we attempted to do the
    sprint T/600 1.1.00xx(whatever it is) the treo updater for Sprint. And it
    appears to have been a problematic thing since then.

    So this is making me wonder and ask:

    How do we get the T600 firmware (whatever it is called) back to whatever it
    was when we got the phone a week or so back, thus removing any firmware that
    may have failed perhaps? Are there known problems with this treo/sprint
    updater??

    We not yet have purchased a memory card - but will if it is possible to
    install AIM/Eurdora etc ON the memory card vs inside the Treo - AND store
    our data on the card. Is this doable? I just ask because we see no install
    options (well would not expect to see since no card installed), but would
    like some ideas of what we can do before spending more money.

    Thanks, getting pretty frustrated here with it doing its looopy loop on us
    at any moment it so desires.





  6. #6
    Robert M.
    Guest

    Re: Treo 600 boot loop and erase all

    In article <CTh5c.10964$zP2.5733[email protected]>,
    "dotssquared" <[email protected]> wrote:

    > >
    > > The thing is a Palm Phone is not quite a Palm Pilot, and so any
    > > application which "should" work, might cause issues. If you've synched
    > > your phone to your PC (or Mac) you should be able to retreive all your
    > > data. Keep track of applications/hacks you INSTALL on your Treo. When
    > > problems occur, it's likely that the last thing you INSTALLED caused the
    > > problem.

    >
    > The only 2 apps we have installed is the AIM and the Eudora mail. But yes we
    > are able to synch up once we get back in the office etc. But could we
    > avoid the "erase all" problem if we had apps and data on a memory card
    > instead of in the Treo? Or? Just trying to find a solution to allow the palm
    > to do the "erase all" but we still have our data and apps etc.and can get
    > things going without having to return to office etc.
    >
    > Thanks Robert!


    Try running Eudora without AIM or AIM without Eudora and see what
    hapopens.



  7. #7

    Re: Treo 600 boot loop and erase all



    dotssquared wrote:

    > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
    > message news:[email protected]
    >>
    >> Take a look at Botzam Backup
    >> (http://www.botzam.com/bzbackup_details.htm). You can do a full,
    >> encrypted backup to your SDMem card. This should solve your
    >> away-from-the-computer resynch problem.
    >>
    >> How the heck are you getting into this reboot problem? I've never
    >> encountered it. Have you presented the problem to Palm/Handspring or
    >> Sprint PCS? Is there some particular application that you suspect?
    >>

    >
    > No we have not yet told sprint/handspring/palm - we just got the T600 a week
    > ago, and our suspect is the AIM (the one we paid for - not that buried
    > "aim-clone" in sprints portal), and or the Eudora mail. We only installed
    > the eurdora mail and the synch - we did not install the eudora web
    > componet - not need it.


    I had no luck with Eudora mail on the T600. I loved it on my QCP6035,
    but it was buggy as heck on the T600 and I had to drop it.

    Go get the email software on Handspring's support page for the T600.
    (http://www.palmone.com/us/support/do...pop3_mail.html) It's
    solid. Not anywhere near as polished as Eudora (no filters, you have to
    retrieve each account separately,...), but it works.

    > I am perfectly willing to take this back to Sprint and demand it be
    > replaced - this boot loop has happend repeatedly many times - often while we
    > are doing something, such as logged into AIM and something else happens on
    > the T600, such as an alarm, or we have to switch.
    >
    > The very first time this started happening was when we attempted to do the
    > sprint T/600 1.1.00xx(whatever it is) the treo updater for Sprint. And it
    > appears to have been a problematic thing since then.
    >
    > So this is making me wonder and ask:
    >
    > How do we get the T600 firmware (whatever it is called) back to whatever it
    > was when we got the phone a week or so back, thus removing any firmware that
    > may have failed perhaps? Are there known problems with this treo/sprint
    > updater??
    >
    > We not yet have purchased a memory card - but will if it is possible to
    > install AIM/Eurdora etc ON the memory card vs inside the Treo - AND store
    > our data on the card. Is this doable? I just ask because we see no install
    > options (well would not expect to see since no card installed), but would
    > like some ideas of what we can do before spending more money.
    >
    > Thanks, getting pretty frustrated here with it doing its looopy loop on us
    > at any moment it so desires.


    First thing you should do is delete any suspect software from the
    device. Use Menu/Delete from the applications (home) screen.
    Definitely delete Eudora and possibly delete your AIM client.

    See if that clears things up.

    I had absolutely no trouble with my 1.1 updater, by the way. It worked
    as advertised for me.




  8. #8
    dudemasicus
    Guest

    Re: Treo 600 boot loop and erase all

    dotssquared wrote:

    > There gotta be a better solution than the one where if your Treo 600 for
    > whatever reason goes into this infamous boot loop - and you only choice is
    > to press yes to erase all data and then it will start up... What would be a
    > solution/approach to this? If we bought a memory card - could we put on it
    > the apps like AIM, Eudora Mail and our data so it is separate and not in the
    > Treo's memory stuff? Not quite sure yet how to "move" or install the apps
    > themselves (AIM, Eudora) onto a memory card, would appreciate somet thoughts
    > on this. We do try various "reset" approaches, pin in the reset hole,
    > pressing a key while rebooting etc. no luck.
    >
    > We keep encountering this boot-loop and it is a real pisser when it happens
    > out on the road and it absolutely insists on erasing everything - just to
    > restart - - it needs a better solution and we need to stop having our data
    > erased which renders using the T600 kind of useless with the contacts,
    > emails, appts, etc gone.
    >
    >


    Can't tell you why you are getting this, but you can hit the reset
    button on the back while pressing the 'up' button on the pad you will
    reboot your Treo without loading any apps that are set to run on
    startup. This should stop the rebooting....


    -d



  9. #9
    Tom B
    Guest

    Re: Treo 600 boot loop and erase all

    I'm having major problems with my Treo 600.

    I do have Eudora mail and web, but per your advice below going to
    delete them and see if that help.

    Calls come in and I tap answer, and it ignores me.
    Calls come in and if I can answer them, I get disconnected within
    seconds.

    good luck.

    Tom

    "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
    > dotssquared wrote:
    >
    > > "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote in
    > > message news:[email protected]
    > >>
    > >> Take a look at Botzam Backup
    > >> (http://www.botzam.com/bzbackup_details.htm). You can do a full,
    > >> encrypted backup to your SDMem card. This should solve your
    > >> away-from-the-computer resynch problem.
    > >>
    > >> How the heck are you getting into this reboot problem? I've never
    > >> encountered it. Have you presented the problem to Palm/Handspring or
    > >> Sprint PCS? Is there some particular application that you suspect?
    > >>

    > >
    > > No we have not yet told sprint/handspring/palm - we just got the T600 a week
    > > ago, and our suspect is the AIM (the one we paid for - not that buried
    > > "aim-clone" in sprints portal), and or the Eudora mail. We only installed
    > > the eurdora mail and the synch - we did not install the eudora web
    > > componet - not need it.

    >
    > I had no luck with Eudora mail on the T600. I loved it on my QCP6035,
    > but it was buggy as heck on the T600 and I had to drop it.
    >
    > Go get the email software on Handspring's support page for the T600.
    > (http://www.palmone.com/us/support/do...pop3_mail.html) It's
    > solid. Not anywhere near as polished as Eudora (no filters, you have to
    > retrieve each account separately,...), but it works.
    >
    > > I am perfectly willing to take this back to Sprint and demand it be
    > > replaced - this boot loop has happend repeatedly many times - often while we
    > > are doing something, such as logged into AIM and something else happens on
    > > the T600, such as an alarm, or we have to switch.
    > >
    > > The very first time this started happening was when we attempted to do the
    > > sprint T/600 1.1.00xx(whatever it is) the treo updater for Sprint. And it
    > > appears to have been a problematic thing since then.
    > >
    > > So this is making me wonder and ask:
    > >
    > > How do we get the T600 firmware (whatever it is called) back to whatever it
    > > was when we got the phone a week or so back, thus removing any firmware that
    > > may have failed perhaps? Are there known problems with this treo/sprint
    > > updater??
    > >
    > > We not yet have purchased a memory card - but will if it is possible to
    > > install AIM/Eurdora etc ON the memory card vs inside the Treo - AND store
    > > our data on the card. Is this doable? I just ask because we see no install
    > > options (well would not expect to see since no card installed), but would
    > > like some ideas of what we can do before spending more money.
    > >
    > > Thanks, getting pretty frustrated here with it doing its looopy loop on us
    > > at any moment it so desires.

    >
    > First thing you should do is delete any suspect software from the
    > device. Use Menu/Delete from the applications (home) screen.
    > Definitely delete Eudora and possibly delete your AIM client.
    >
    > See if that clears things up.
    >
    > I had absolutely no trouble with my 1.1 updater, by the way. It worked
    > as advertised for me.




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