New TDMA charge

I thought that an "armature" is a part of an electric motor that makes the
thing spin? Maybe I'm wrong. :-)

"ABC" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> "DecaturTxCowboy" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
>>> Mij Adyaw <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> It seems that John dedicates a very significant amount of time to
>>>> replying to questions and posting information in this newsgroup. I am
>>>> trying to understand how he does this. Maybe he is independently
>>>> wealthy, doesn't have a day job, or is retired and this newsgoup is a
>>>> hobby.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Alright ... so what?
>>> You appear to be on a blatant attempt to TROLL.
>>
>> My take on this is Mij is trying to corner JN into disclosing the
>> motivation for his agenda.
>>
>> We already know his agenda includes dismissing anything he can't Google
>> any supporting evidence as rubbish. We also know he has to show he has a
>> better deal, phone, service, coverage, etc. than anyone else. You have a
>> problem - its not a problem in his area (if Media Whatever is down in New
>> York, he will point out its working in the Bay area, which is totally
>> meaningless information to the person having the issue). We further know
>> that his experiences are sufficient proof, even when it conflicts with
>> Googled evidence. And even further...we know he is not a
>> telecommunications professional, not even an armature - seeing a cellular
>> tech working at a cell site and having a conversation with him does not
>> make one an expert in the industry.
>
> So are you a telecommunications "armature"?
>

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"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> I have no connection to Cingular other than as a paying customer.

Sure you are.

> I've
> gotten a wealth of useful information from Internet, and am
> old-fashioned enough to believe in giving back.

Thank you for the admission that you have no practical knowledge in the
areas you post about. That would explain why you are so frequently wrong.


> I'm self-employed with
> a fairly irregular schedule,

Translation- the ice cream truck only runs when he can afford the gas.

> so there are times when I can post
> frequently, and times when I can't.
>

ABC wrote:

> So are you a telecommunications "armature"?

No, am a guy that forgot to run ***** check.

Jeff A. Farrar wrote:
> Both (GSM&TDMA) seem to be pretty close in this area. I figure TDMA is
> going away in a year or so anyway. I'll give GSM a chance for 30 days and
> if I don't like it, back it goes. Main reason is Cingular's cheapest family
> share plan is $10 a month cheaper that Verizon.

One thing you want to check is that many older phones will not be
reactivated once they are shut off. If your phone does not have GPS
positioning built in (so authorities can pinpoint your location), then
I believe the wireless carrier (Cingular) will not reactivate it once
it has be shut off. This is true with all the US carriers, if I am not
mistaken.

On 26 Jul 2006 18:50:11 -0700, "GomJabbar" <[email protected]>
wrote in <[email protected]>:

>Jeff A. Farrar wrote:
>> Both (GSM&TDMA) seem to be pretty close in this area. I figure TDMA is
>> going away in a year or so anyway. I'll give GSM a chance for 30 days and
>> if I don't like it, back it goes. Main reason is Cingular's cheapest family
>> share plan is $10 a month cheaper that Verizon.
>
>One thing you want to check is that many older phones will not be
>reactivated once they are shut off. If your phone does not have GPS
>positioning built in (so authorities can pinpoint your location), then
>I believe the wireless carrier (Cingular) will not reactivate it once
>it has be shut off. This is true with all the US carriers, if I am not
>mistaken.

That might be true for CDMA carriers, but Cingular doesn't use GPS for
E-911 positioning. See E-911 part of the FAQ for more info.

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Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:03:23 -0700, "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]>
wrote in <LERxg.16644$Nv.12487@fed1read10>:

>There is no Troll here, just a curiosity regarding how John finds the time
>to post thousands of messages that promote Cingular and whether he is paid
>to do so. If a person is paid and therefore is a shill, then I wouldn't take
>any information seriously that was posted by that person. Since he is not a
>shill, he has nothing to gain and therefore I would assume that he is
>posting credible information based upon experience. He is definitely King of
>this newsgroup.

More like chief bottle washer and lightning rod.

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Mij Adyaw wrote:
> therefore I would assume that he is
> posting credible information based upon experience.

Like claiming he used Extended GSM off the coast of San Francisco.

> He is definitely King of this newsgroup.

Joker come to mind. Anyone can Google for information, but few have the
opportunity to get hands on technical experience. BTW...JN never did
answer my question of when the last time he opened up a Lucent or Nokia
base station cabinet to do maintenance on it.

John Navas wrote:
> That might be true for CDMA carriers, but Cingular doesn't use GPS for
> E-911 positioning. See E-911 part of the FAQ for more info.

It appears that you are correct. I do not know a lot about this, and I
still wonder if Cingular doesn't have some similar technological
requirement.

http://news.com.com/More+alarms+over...3-5772018.html

> The proposed waiver would apply only to Verizon Wireless, Sprint and other
> operators using global positioning satellite (GPS) location technology in their
> phones. It wouldn't apply to Cingular Wireless or T-Mobile, two major U.S.
> operators that use a different technology to locate subscribers.

John, you may add to that list, that little known Olympic sport, Javelin
Catching.

From one who has endured the wrath of the "groupies" here and other places,
tis a noble and thankless assignment.

As John Holmes was fond of saying, "keep it up".

"John Navas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:03:23 -0700, "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]>
> wrote in <LERxg.16644$Nv.12487@fed1read10>:
>
>>There is no Troll here, just a curiosity regarding how John finds the time
>>to post thousands of messages that promote Cingular and whether he is paid
>>to do so. If a person is paid and therefore is a shill, then I wouldn't
>>take
>>any information seriously that was posted by that person. Since he is not
>>a
>>shill, he has nothing to gain and therefore I would assume that he is
>>posting credible information based upon experience. He is definitely King
>>of
>>this newsgroup.
>
> More like chief bottle washer and lightning rod.
>
> --
> Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
> John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

Mij Adyaw <[email protected]> wrote:
> There is no Troll here, just a curiosity regarding how John finds the time
> to post thousands of messages that promote Cingular and whether he is paid
> to do so. If a person is paid and therefore is a shill, then I wouldn't take
> any information seriously that was posted by that person. Since he is not a
> shill, he has nothing to gain and therefore I would assume that he is
> posting credible information based upon experience. He is definitely King of
> this newsgroup.
>

Sorry Mij ... I still think you are trolling. If John is a shill, you are an
anti-shill ... more appropriately, and anti-John.

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DecaturTxCowboy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> My take on this is Mij is trying to corner JN into disclosing the
> motivation for his agenda.
>

Nah ... he is calling him out because, Mij is frustrated.

> We already know his agenda includes dismissing anything he can't Google
> any supporting evidence as rubbish. We also know he has to show he has a
> better deal, phone, service, coverage, etc. than anyone else. You have a
> problem - its not a problem in his area (if Media Whatever is down in
> New York, he will point out its working in the Bay area, which is
> totally meaningless information to the person having the issue). We
> further know that his experiences are sufficient proof, even when it
> conflicts with Googled evidence. And even further...we know he is not a
> telecommunications professional, not even an armature - seeing a
> cellular tech working at a cell site and having a conversation with him
> does not make one an expert in the industry.

I think his agenda is two fold. One, it is natural to want to justify your
position on choice of carrier ... and John has chosen Cingular. Second, John
put in the add control request to create this newsgroup and the obvious
CHARTER and FAQ stuff he is always publishing is testament to that.

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DecaturTxCowboy <[email protected]> wrote:
> ABC wrote:
>
>> So are you a telecommunications "armature"?
>
> No, am a guy that forgot to run ***** check.

Apparently it doesn't matter, as you *****ed "armature" correctly.

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No Troll here. As I said, I just wanted to determine if he is a shill so
that I know if the information that he posts has any credibility. He
dominates this newsgroup and therefore this is information that needs to be
public; in fact, he should put it in the newsgroup FAQ so that folks won't
have to wonder.

mij

"Thomas T. Veldhouse" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mij Adyaw <[email protected]> wrote:
>> There is no Troll here, just a curiosity regarding how John finds the
>> time
>> to post thousands of messages that promote Cingular and whether he is
>> paid
>> to do so. If a person is paid and therefore is a shill, then I wouldn't
>> take
>> any information seriously that was posted by that person. Since he is not
>> a
>> shill, he has nothing to gain and therefore I would assume that he is
>> posting credible information based upon experience. He is definitely King
>> of
>> this newsgroup.
>>
>
> Sorry Mij ... I still think you are trolling. If John is a shill, you are
> an
> anti-shill ... more appropriately, and anti-John.
>
> --
> Thomas T. Veldhouse
> Key Fingerprint: 2DB9 813F F510 82C2 E1AE 34D0 D69D 1EDC D5EC AED1
>
>

In article <M03yg.16659$Nv.10700@fed1read10>,
"Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]> wrote:

> No Troll here. As I said, I just wanted to determine if he is a shill so
> that I know if the information that he posts has any credibility. He
> dominates this newsgroup and therefore this is information that needs to be
> public; in fact, he should put it in the newsgroup FAQ so that folks won't
> have to wonder.

I have him filtered out, and this newsgroup is far more readable as a
result.

John don't get no respect. Just like Rodney Dangerfield. :-)

"Jack Zwick" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <M03yg.16659$Nv.10700@fed1read10>,
> "Mij Adyaw" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> No Troll here. As I said, I just wanted to determine if he is a shill so
>> that I know if the information that he posts has any credibility. He
>> dominates this newsgroup and therefore this is information that needs to
>> be
>> public; in fact, he should put it in the newsgroup FAQ so that folks
>> won't
>> have to wonder.
>
> I have him filtered out, and this newsgroup is far more readable as a
> result.